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iMac Pro Now Available to Order With 8 to 18 Cores and Prices Ranging From $4,999 to $13,199
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I’m not sure I follow the question. Big companies lease machines so they’re refreshed every 3-5 years.
They put out the specs needed and the company they contracted with delivers them, whatever the cost is because they literally pay for themselves in days given how much content is pushed out by that bloated Mouse-owned enterprise.
They were all in the medium-high end range of the specs available, whatever price tag cane with it.
Big enterprise doesn’t care about upgrading or shopping around for a build some IT guy can slap together for them. They need a tool, they order it, and the creatives who USE the machines couldn’t tell you a processor from a toaster because their job isn’t to be concerned with spec-nerd arguments. They’re there to work on the tools they have at their disposal. They smile a bit when you install their new one when the previous lease is up, but actual workers simply don’t need to know specs, they need a machine that gets the job done.
iMac Pro 10 core vs 18 core
I calculate the 18 core would be approx 20% faster than the 10. However that’s just multiplying numbers... Does anyone know how the larger L3 memory would factor into speed? Single treaded it looks like the 10 core is 5% faster than the 18 core... For arguments sake, assume cost is not a factor. But overall performance is. Uses are Final Cut X, Logic, Lightroom, some Photoshop (not much). Thoughts?
I calculate the 18 core would be approx 20% faster than the 10. However that’s just multiplying numbers... Does anyone know how the larger L3 memory would factor into speed? Single treaded it looks like the 10 core is 5% faster than the 18 core... For arguments sake, assume cost is not a factor. But overall performance is. Uses are Final Cut X, Logic, Lightroom, some Photoshop (not much). Thoughts?
A professional wouldn't spend that much on a machine that can't be upgraded and is prone to overheating. Professionals don't want to wait a month for Apple Care when a drive fails. They want to swap it out themselves immediately.
The All in One form factor was something inherently designed for casuals.
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You highly underestimate the amount. The all in one form factor was designed for casuals.
"Real Pros" wear a lot of hats when they have to.
Whatever it takes to get the job done.
So whoever thinks this is worth whatever apple says. Go make one for yourself at pcpartpicker.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VyQPtJ
Here is an equivalent setup that is overclockable to 4 ghz with the availability of 64 pic lanes.
For those who don't understand for 7 k their base price is almost as much as a system better then their 13k.
For those mac users, pay a friend 5k to build you a better computer and Macintosh it.
This is a very much so a waste of your money.
This has a faster, CPU, GPU, I'd be willing to say ram, and its upgradable. There is no justification for this bs premium people think is okay for Apple to charge that much.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VyQPtJ
Here is an equivalent setup that is overclockable to 4 ghz with the availability of 64 pic lanes.
For those who don't understand for 7 k their base price is almost as much as a system better then their 13k.
For those mac users, pay a friend 5k to build you a better computer and Macintosh it.
This is a very much so a waste of your money.
This has a faster, CPU, GPU, I'd be willing to say ram, and its upgradable. There is no justification for this bs premium people think is okay for Apple to charge that much.
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No, it's actually overpriced.
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Just because you don't value your money doesn't mean others don't. You can still do your work faster without overpaying.
iMac Pro - $9,599 (same configuration that MKBHD had)
- Intel Xeon W-2155 (downclocked)
- Radeon Pro Vega 64 16 GB HBM2 (downclocked)
- 128 GB DDR4-2666 ECC
- 2 TB PCIe NVMe SSD
- 10 Gb network card
- MacOS
- 1 year warranty
- Intel Xeon W-2155
- Radeon Pro Vega Frontier Edition (Vega 64) 16 GB HBM2
- 128 GB DDR4-2666 ECC
- 2 TB PCIe NVMe SSD
- 10 Gb network card (2x)
- Windows 10 Pro
- 1 year warranty
considering i've only upgraded one mac in the last 15 years as it was cheaper and easier just to buy a new one , i really like the new imac pro
the base 8 core looks a bit of a bargain compared to a normal tricked out 5k
plus by the look of it , it's much quieter
whats not to like ???
the base 8 core looks a bit of a bargain compared to a normal tricked out 5k
plus by the look of it , it's much quieter
whats not to like ???
Yeah, but you don't get the black keyboard and mouse.
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Maybe it just "Looks" quieter.
I'm going to hold out for something that "Sounds" quieter.
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So first the self-styled “professionals” here want to decide what is a real computer and what isn’t (the iPad Pro thread) and now they wish to hijack the definition of the term “professional” to whatever definition best suits their arguments at any different moment?
My definition of a professional is one who works with AR & VR, engineering/science, along with intensive content editing and manipulation, and of course, developers.
There is nothing about this group of people which suggests that they are any less “professional” just because they don’t know how to service or upgrade their own hardware. Sure, knowing how to helps, but I don’t see how not knowing how to replace the innards of my computer makes me any less capable of a developer or video editor.
You know what? By all means argue that the iPad isn’t a “real computer” just because it doesn’t perform some niche function that 99% of the user populace won’t ever need to do. By all means argue that the iMac Pro isn’t a true professional device just because a potential customer has to spend a little more upfront to add more ram rather than install his own after the fact. The group of people who would use these devices for their own benefit isn’t going to be any less productive just because they are suddenly deemed “not professionals” according to your utterly arbitrary definition.
Call a rose by any other name, it will still smell as sweet.
So thankful to Apple for making this system- ordering soon!
Oh so you know how the new iMac Pro's cooling systems sound?
I love it when these threads devolve into people arguing about who the real pros are, or what the real pros do. It never gets old.
Sorry this is not how Pro's work. I mean real pros. Someone mentioned ESPN. Let's say you run a Broadcasting Operation, and your buying systems for your news room. Your News pros want to use a very cool piece of software called Core News. It in effect provides the News Pros will all of the tools they need to do their work. If your going to run this software your going to have HP workstations. Because that is all they support. You have HP or you do not have their software. That is how much of the pro software world is. Don't even ask them about GamePC.
Go to the Dell Workstation or the HP workstation web pages. You'll see the term ISV certified over and over. What is that? It means that many ISV's (independent Software Vendors) offer support for their software on a system. If it is not supported you can not buy it.
When you are making thousands of dollars from a system in a very short time (sometimes less than a day) you do not worry about what it costs. You worry that it will not work. Because when it's not working you are not making money.
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Indeed, it's a professional tool and, by Apple standards, actually priced reasonably.
iMac 5k 4 core tricked out to the max = £4,229
iMac pro standard 8 core w/ Vega 56 = £4,889
Not bad value when you think about it !!!
iMac pro standard 8 core w/ Vega 56 = £4,889
Not bad value when you think about it !!!
All the 27" iMacs I see in design studios, I suppose they're being used by casuals, not pro users. Casual graphic designers, casual motion graphics designers, casual photographers, even casual video editors. The poor dears, working casually on their overheating all-in-ones.
We don't need to see Apple's logs to know that the majority of users, pro or 'casual', simply do not want to open up their computer and screw around with things.
Whenever I think the world is full of smart people, I read these threads. It helps hahahaha
I'm sure all the pros who are using
Real pros knows the best tool is the one they like to use and is suited for their own unique needs without having to conform to the kind of tools people expect pros to use. Many real pros can also afford to not have all the parts non-upgradable for a cleaner desktop and good performance. Besides, it's not like all of them will be paying out of pocket.
The first recommended Apple Config has 8 CPU cores, 64GB RAM, a 16GB GPU, and all the standard Apple bells and whistles for $6399.
Spec out a Dell Xeon Workstation as high as it can go (4-core processor, 64GB RAM, No video card), and it prices out to $4155.00. Add an aftermarket GTX1080ti (750$) and a Dell 5K monitor ($1400 – if you can find one) and you get up to $6305. Only $94 cheaper (for half the cores) for a lot of extra hassle (such as the monitor not being able to display the boot-up screens in 5K mode). Oh and you have to deal with Win10 and its spyware/nannying.
An HP Z840 workstation (half the VRAM on the slower Quadro card, no Wifi/BT) comes to $5355 without a monitor. Add a Dell 5K to that and you have $6755. Or $356 more expensive.
So the iMac Pro I'm most interested in really doesn't seem like such a bad deal. I spec out comparable PC hardware every time I buy a Mac, and it's almost always about the same price.
Now... The most comparable HP to the decked-out $13,199 iMac Pro (still half the VRAM) is $10,689. Add a 5K monitor, and it's $12,089. Making it $1,110 cheaper (without any wireless). But frankly if you're spending 5 figures on a computer, you can afford to spend 9% more for MacOS, better integrated hardware, and being able to run all of your existing software if that's your preference. But only a tiny power-crazy minority will go the full monty on this thing.
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Organizations typically have contract pricing with their vendor of choice. They also have a (depending on how flush the company is with cash) 2 to 5 year equipment lifecycle. It’s rare to get even a stick of RAM, if you tell your boss that your machine could use another 8GB, someone from IT shows up a week later with a new machine that has 8GB more. It’s stupid, but that’s how it is.
For a machine like this you submit a proposal to your boss to provide justification. They review and pass it on to procurement who signs off and sends it to IT/media services/equipment management or whatever. Then you get your new machine.
The real question is where are all these companies that buy sticks of RAM and new CPU’s? That’s for hobbyists who like to build at home.
For a machine like this you submit a proposal to your boss to provide justification. They review and pass it on to procurement who signs off and sends it to IT/media services/equipment management or whatever. Then you get your new machine.
The real question is where are all these companies that buy sticks of RAM and new CPU’s? That’s for hobbyists who like to build at home.
Ive used macs and PCs (for Adobe) to run my business for 15 years now.
My last purchase was thhebmac pro 3.1. Upgraded the graphics card a year down the line. Ram never. My partner got a HP workstation a few years later for one of our projects to run adobe and he is a PC guy.
In 2008 the Mac Pro was a steal at $2000 or so. The HP was around $10000. I’m a director of photography mainly (but I also edit) so I prefer to spend my money on camera gear. I would love a new iMac Pro, but the one I want is bit out of reach now just before Xmas. It’s an expensive machine, but it’s an awesome one. One of the few that can actually playback files from my Red camera at full res (8K).
I’m not to fussed about the lack of upgrade possibilities. Would be nice for the ram, but at least you can send it back to Apple and let them upgrade your ram.
Problem with a PC is that I can’t run FCX on it and after I started using that I hate going back to Adobe. Guess I’m a pro as what I do has paid for my house and cars etc.
My last purchase was thhebmac pro 3.1. Upgraded the graphics card a year down the line. Ram never. My partner got a HP workstation a few years later for one of our projects to run adobe and he is a PC guy.
In 2008 the Mac Pro was a steal at $2000 or so. The HP was around $10000. I’m a director of photography mainly (but I also edit) so I prefer to spend my money on camera gear. I would love a new iMac Pro, but the one I want is bit out of reach now just before Xmas. It’s an expensive machine, but it’s an awesome one. One of the few that can actually playback files from my Red camera at full res (8K).
I’m not to fussed about the lack of upgrade possibilities. Would be nice for the ram, but at least you can send it back to Apple and let them upgrade your ram.
Problem with a PC is that I can’t run FCX on it and after I started using that I hate going back to Adobe. Guess I’m a pro as what I do has paid for my house and cars etc.
Entry model is cheap. Similar Linux systems from Dell or system 76 are 6.5 and 5 k respectively. Without a monitor thats worth about 1k.
The all-new iMac Pro is now available to order from Apple's online store and through the Apple Store app on iPhone and iPad.
8-core and 10-core models start at $4,999 and $5,799 respectively and currently ship by late December in the United States, while 14-core and 18-core models starting at $6,599 and $7,399 can also be ordered today, but aren't estimated to ship for 6-8 weeks, which pushes deliveries into February.
From there, each iMac Pro configuration has optional upgrades available for storage, memory, and graphics, with prices topping out at $13,199 for a maxed-out, high-end 18-core model with 4TB of SSD storage, 128GB of ECC RAM, and an AMD Radeon Pro Vega 64 graphics processor with 16GB of HBM2 memory.
iMac Pro is a powerful, top-of-the-line workstation designed for professional users with demanding workflows, such as advanced video and graphics editing, virtual reality content creation, and real-time 3D rendering.
Apple said the iMac Pro is the fastest and most powerful Mac ever, at least until the modular Mac Pro is ready to be released.
YouTube reviewers Marques Brownlee and Jonathan Morrison recently shared hands-on videos of the iMac Pro, and put its CPU performance to the test with benchmarks on Geekbench, which simulates real-world workload scenarios.
In both videos, the mid-range iMac Pro with a 10-core 3.0GHz Intel Xeon processor recorded a multi-core score of just over 37,400, which is up to 45 percent faster than the high-end 2013 Mac Pro's average multi-core score of 25,747. The 10-core model is also up to 93 percent faster than a high-end 2017 27-inch 5K iMac.
Brownlee found the iMac Pro to be a super capable yet quiet machine with a beautiful display and a stealthy space gray enclosure.
He said the iMac Pro's biggest weakness is its lack of upgradeability, but he argued its expensive $4,999 starting price is actually fair for the hardware included, and he noted that a PC with equivalent tech specs costs around $5,100, so he believes the iMac Pro is priced competitively compared to what's on the market.
In addition to up to an 18-core processor, that hardware includes up to 4TB of SSD storage, up to 128GB of ECC RAM, and up to an AMD Radeon Pro Vega 64 graphics processor with 16GB of HBM2 memory.
The high-end performance is made possible by an all-new thermal design that delivers up to 80 percent more cooling capacity than a traditional iMac.
With four Thunderbolt 3 ports, the iMac Pro can drive two external 5K displays or four 4K displays at 60Hz simultaneously. It also has a 10 Gigabit Ethernet port, four USB-A 3.0 ports, an SD card slot, and a 3.5mm headphone jack.
A black Lightning to USB-A cable and space gray Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse 2 are included in the box. A space gray Magic Trackpad 2 is optional.
iMac Pro is now available to order in the United States, Canada, Australia, China, Hong Kong, Japan, most European countries, and select other regions. In some other countries, like Singapore, Apple says to check back later for information.
Article Link: iMac Pro Now Available to Order With 8 to 18 Cores and Prices Ranging From $4,999 to $13,199
