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For me, not a problem. I'll embrace the new technology.

I don't have a problem with embracing the new technology. Part of that comes from being on an ISP who hasn't started metering service, I imagine. I haven't bought a physical copy of a movie in probably 2 years; mostly I rent through Xbox or Apple TV now.

My problem is, sometimes, the "old way" is just how stuff comes. For example, the collector's edition of Diablo III included:
- A DVD of the game. Ok, I can download it without a drive, it just takes longer.
- A USB stick with Diablo 2. Cute. I can work with that. I can also download it if I lose the USB stick.
- A CD with the soundtrack. Here, there's nothing I can do. There's no way to replace it if I lose the physical media (until I load it into iTunes), and there's no way to load it into iTunes without an ODD.

There's lots of little examples like this that mean that for 2012 and 2013, at least, lots people will find themselves quite annoyed at not having an ODD built in to their primary computer. If they made the trade-off for portability, good for them, and they should easily adopt the external. But for a stationary computer, it just doesn't make a lot of sense yet.

The world is getting there. It's not there. And the gain from removing the component from a stationary computer is simply not there. 25mm and 1 oz doesn't mean much. Failure rate doesn't mean much either - the people arguing this are primarily the people who don't plan to use it and won't even notice if it fails.

.. That said, lack of an ODD won't deter me from buying a top iMac when it's released. I will curse Jony Ive, but I will still pay him.
 
Not to come off rude, but an external solution might be in your future in the next 1-2 years with an iMac. I bet the Mac Pro is the last to drop the optical drive.

I can appreciate a CD vs iTunes for the sake of sound quality.

Oh I definitely recognize that I'll probably have to buy one. I don't think the Mac Pro will lose the optical drive for quite sometime though.
 
Are Macs capable of mounting data blu-ray discs in Finder yet?* If the iMac loses the optical drive, I'll have to get an external - in which case I'll get BD as it's semi-recent technology.

*3rd-party download or otherwise.
 
I think you have created a circular reference, as that article states:
"As reported by MacRumors, ..." :)

Yeps, but it refers to ML, not iMac ... "As reported by MacRumors, one developer claims that the first big software update of Mountain Lion will improve the battery life of the 15-inch Retina MacBook Pro whilst adding that the planned update will double the battery life of the laptop. “Until I installed 10.8.1,” the unnamed developer said, “my MacBook was showing 4h:05m after a full charge.” After he installed the new operating system, his Retina MacBook Pro reportedly posted “over 8h” or more than eight hours running after a full charge"

;)
 
Are Macs capable of mounting data blu-ray discs in Finder yet?* If the iMac loses the optical drive, I'll have to get an external - in which case I'll get BD as it's semi-recent technology.

Dunno. Maybe they will reach a licensing break-thru with the Apple TV that's coming.
 
So who is laughing at OP now! When he predicted 12th Sept he was greatly ridiculed. Given the recent research report by KGI securities, 12th would appear to be the most likely time given that 4th Sept is during US labour day holiday week...
 
Are Macs capable of mounting data blu-ray discs in Finder yet?* If the iMac loses the optical drive, I'll have to get an external - in which case I'll get BD as it's semi-recent technology.

*3rd-party download or otherwise.

It works without any download. In fact, it has to mount before you can open it with MakeMKV or similar utility.
 
So who is laughing at OP now! When he predicted 12th Sept he was greatly ridiculed. Given the recent research report by KGI securities, 12th would appear to be the most likely time given that 4th Sept is during US labour day holiday week...

I KNOW! its still not for sure but theres a good chance it could happen! everyone thought i was crazy but now they see im actually not that crazy, lol. so there you have it folks if it happens you heard it here first!!! i hope i gain a little bit of respect lol.
 
So who is laughing at OP now! When he predicted 12th Sept he was greatly ridiculed. Given the recent research report by KGI securities, 12th would appear to be the most likely time given that 4th Sept is during US labour day holiday week...

I will declare him the winner of many internets if he turns out to be right. Which he won't. ;-)
 
The big question now is will they keep the 21-inch iMac sitting in warehouses while the 27-inch can catch up in production OR will they release the 21-inch and delay the 27-inch orders for a few weeks?
 
The big question now is will they keep the 21-inch iMac sitting in warehouses while the 27-inch can catch up in production OR will they release the 21-inch and delay the 27-inch orders for a few weeks?

I don't know, but of course I'll wish for release the 21 and delay the 27. I need a 21. :D
 
The big question now is will they keep the 21-inch iMac sitting in warehouses while the 27-inch can catch up in production OR will they release the 21-inch and delay the 27-inch orders for a few weeks?

I'm hoping that they just release the 21 and start taking preorders or whatever for the 27. I would much rather just order my machine and get it a month or so later than fretting over updates on MacRumors for another month.
 
With todays rumors I'm hoping they announce both models early to mid October, with then 21.5 shipping right away and a 2 week delay on the 27".

I just wonder with all this effort being put into the screen with we a) get any change in the overall design? and b) if they do this change will the screen be Matte and c) I assume the glass cover as we know it will be gone and not removable? Lots of questions. I can only hope this stops the cases of dust behind the glass, if there is no glass?
 
What's your current running hypothesis? Mine was 24th July, given up predicting after that

I've been thinking Oct 9 is the date for quite some time now. Depends on whether the iPad Mini is early or late Oct though. I believe the iMac will be in the half of October not occupied by the iPad Mini event.
 
Gave up on iMac

You know, I'm really really delighted to see some light at the end of the iMac tunnel. After using Macs for years and then switching to PCs, I decided to switch back to Mac just a few months ago with the aim of getting an iMac. Instead I started out with an entry MacBook Pro 2011 edition as my laptop died and I needed something portable.

But I'd been coveting the iMacs for over a year and saving my pennies until I hooked my MacBook Pro up to a 24" monitor and realised I didn't need an iMac.

I'm a graphics professional and have been working this way for over a month now. Can't believe the speed and stability the MacBook Pro kicks out. Guess I kinda made my own iMac in a way. Apple have lost a grand but they strung this whole iMac thing out for so long, I know a few people who have either

- hooked MacBooks up to external monitors
- bought 'all in one' PCs of which there are many emerging

Maybe I'll cave when the iMac is finally released but I don't think so. Anyone else out there using MacBook Pros as their main machine and how do you find it?
 
Did anyone noticed that the iMac that's running low is the 27 inch one yet according to Kou thats the one thats gonna be released last. That doesn't make sense I also don't believe apple will release one then the other one later. The 27 inch sells slower than the 21 inch so it doesn't matter that there will be a lot less available. Did you guys noticed this too? In my opinion either they both get release on sep or both later in October.
 
Did anyone noticed that the iMac that's running low is the 27 inch one yet according to Kou thats the one thats gonna be released last. That doesn't make sense I also don't believe apple will release one then the other one later. The 27 inch sells slower than the 21 inch so it doesn't matter that there will be a lot less available. Did you guys noticed this too? In my opinion either they both get release on sep or both later in October.

I don't think that Apple will postpone the release of the 21.5-inch just because the 27-inch is going to be less available. It's not the first time that Macs (or iPads, or iPhones) are sold bu the delivery date slips into the 1-2 month timeframe. So you're right, either they are both introduced now, with the 27-inch possibly being delivered later, or they introduce both later on.
It makes absolutely no sense for them to only introduce one. Unlike MacBook Pros, which have always been traditionally split in different categories — the 13-inch was always a different machne than the 15-inch, for instance: integrated vs. dedicated GPU, etc. — the iMac is really the same thing with a different screen size.
Of course I hope we're talking about September and not October... :)
 
Did anyone noticed that the iMac that's running low is the 27 inch one yet according to Kou thats the one thats gonna be released last. That doesn't make sense I also don't believe apple will release one then the other one later. The 27 inch sells slower than the 21 inch so it doesn't matter that there will be a lot less available. Did you guys noticed this too? In my opinion either they both get release on sep or both later in October.

A retailer having limited stock available does not mean Apple has stopped manufacturing the the old IMAC. The retailer(s) anticipating a new IMAC might keep his stock of IMACs low so as not to get stuck with an oversupply. If this is the retailer is guessing just like the rest. So, there is no inconsistency in Kou's reporting.
 
Did anyone noticed that the iMac that's running low is the 27 inch one yet according to Kou thats the one thats gonna be released last. That doesn't make sense I also don't believe apple will release one then the other one later. The 27 inch sells slower than the 21 inch so it doesn't matter that there will be a lot less available. Did you guys noticed this too? In my opinion either they both get release on sep or both later in October.

They will definitely sell them both at the same time. I agree, there´s no doubt about that.
Initially you would think that they would wait releasing the new ones till 27" is more ready and the stock of the 21.5 would be less, so they would get rid of the 21.5 before they release a new...and at the same time have a better stock of the 27" ready. Then again, I think it´s important for T.Cook to prove good numbers this fall, since the numbers was not as good as people expected last quarter. Cook said it would improve with all the great product coming and customers most likely were waiting to buy. If they come too late they won´t have time to get the sale to those people before another quarter is up. I guess :)
 
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