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iMac Shipping Estimates Slip to 3-5 Business Days for Most Models

My early-2011 15" MBP is getting a little long in the tooth and it's that much more painful to use after working on my nMP.

I noticed that there are some 8-core sku's in the list. Any chance of one of those making it into a 15" MBP?

My MBP 8,2 already runs hot with 4 cores and the chassis has only gotten thinner since my model. I can't imagine stuffing 8 cores into a slim machine without serious heat dissipation issues.

I'd really like to get a new machine towards the end of the year but Skylake seems like such a big leap...decisions?!?!?
 
Michael73 said:
My early-2011 15" MBP is getting a little long in the tooth and it's that much more painful to use after working on my nMP.

I noticed that there are some 8-core sku's in the list. Any chance of one of those making it into a 15" MBP?

My MBP 8,2 already runs hot with 4 cores and the chassis has only gotten thinner since my model. I can't imagine stuffing 8 cores into a slim machine without serious heat dissipation issues.

I'd really like to get a new machine towards the end of the year but Skylake seems like such a big leap...decisions?!?!?
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Hang on til September.... You have lasted this long.... There is no reason to jump if your needs don't dictate you make the decision now. (no 8 core Intel laptop on the horizon).
 
Please not Broadwell !!! Wait for Skylake!

Although these Broadwell CPUs are nice incremental advances, I sincerely hope Apple skips Broadwell and jumps to SkyLake, even if it means further delays. AFAIK, only Skylake can enable modern connectivity ports like HDMI 2.0. Plus, Skylake is SUCH a big jump in performance over Broadwell, doubling both the orthogonal register count to 32 and the AVX lanes per core to 16.

For now, Apple maintains modern graphics ability by using custom chips (e.g. with the retina Mac) and hacked MST drivers for early 4K monitors, but as soon as Apple actually can support modern graphics standards, everyone with the old ports will quickly lose compatibility.

An interesting question - which CPU would Apple get first - Skylake, or conversion to ARM CPUs?
 
bkkcanuck said:
Hang on til September.... You have lasted this long.... There is no reason to jump if your needs don't dictate you make the decision now. (no 8 core Intel laptop on the horizon).
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Definitely. A new machine is as much a workflow improvement play as it is tax play for my business.

An 8 core laptop chip is more of a pipe dream than anything else. Since I regularly have both Mac and Windows (currently Win7) open at the same time (with VMWare Fusion), having the extra cores really helps.

Anyway, does someone have a good perspective on the types of improvements we'd see in a 15" MBP with Skylake over the current crop of this year's chips?
 
Michael73 said:
Definitely. A new machine is as much a workflow improvement play as it is tax play for my business.

An 8 core laptop chip is more of a pipe dream than anything else. Since I regularly have both Mac and Windows (currently Win7) open at the same time (with VMWare Fusion), having the extra cores really helps.

Anyway, does someone have a good perspective on the types of improvements we'd see in a 15" MBP with Skylake over the current crop of this year's chips?
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The current crop quad-core processors have not been upgraded since the 2014 release of the Macbook Pro and likely won't get an update until Skylake is out. The Haswell? chips therefore are still on the 22nm fabs which means that there will be advances in Skylake for both power efficiency/heat which will (guessing) be more significant than the performance gains. Thunderbolt 3 (40Gbps) comes out with Skylake. I believe the bandwidth allowed for M.2 Flash will be greater (4 lane PCIe 3 vs ? is now) which means the Samsung SSDs that are installed will likely have a much greater performance. Potentially USB 3.1 Rev 2 support? (10Gbps). Better support for 4K monitors (at higher refresh or more monitors).

I doubt they will bring the 6 core to the laptop since they have integrated Iris support on those chips (more power efficient than discrete video).

That is my best guess.
 
Joe Rossignol said:
On March 6, I reported that MacBook Air and 13" MacBook Pro shipping times slipped.

On March 9, Apple refreshed the MacBook Air and 13" MacBook Pro.

That seems reason enough in my opinion.

With Intel's desktop Broadwell chips and WWDC 2015 around the corner, I feel this merited an article.

An announcement could come any time between now to August or later, even if the chips aren't released yet.

I pointed out that this could be regular stock fluctuations so that readers are aware of all possibilities.

Thanks for the feedback though. I do respect your opinion :)
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Have Broadwell desktop chips shipped yet? I'm asking because I don't know. From what I remember reading about them- they aren't expected until June.
 
I've been a macbook pro user for 12 years now and like my 15" 2011 model with high res matte display, but have been considering switching up to a desktop seeing as my laptop hasn't actually left its stand in probably 3 years. Was waiting for an update to the 21" iMac adding a retina display. Figure if I'm going to upgrade, might as well get the best screen available. 27" is just way too big for my needs. The biggest hurdle, for me, in buying a large computer vs a laptop is how little space the MBP takes up on my desk. I like that.
 
mdwsta4 said:
I've been a macbook pro user for 12 years now and like my 15" 2011 model with high res matte display, but have been considering switching up to a desktop seeing as my laptop hasn't actually left its stand in probably 3 years. Was waiting for an update to the 21" iMac adding a retina display. Figure if I'm going to upgrade, might as well get the best screen available. 27" is just way too big for my needs. The biggest hurdle, for me, in buying a large computer vs a laptop is how little space the MBP takes up on my desk. I like that.
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Space wise the 27" iMac would only cover the back side of your desk for a few inches. Depending on your keyboard and pointing device preference they can get easily stowed when not in use. There are plenty of stands that can help with it or simplest use a drawer in your desk.
 
McGiord said:
Space wise the 27" iMac would only cover the back side of your desk for a few inches. Depending on your keyboard and pointing device preference they can get easily stowed when not in use. There are plenty of stands that can help with it or simplest use a drawer in your desk.
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Indeed. An iMac would actually free up desk space for me because whereas my MBP sits in the middle of the desk, the iMac would sit all the way to the back, leaving the space in front for work.
 
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vegastime said:
Me too.

Just set it up last night.
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I believe you have 14 days to return your computer from the date of purchase (Apple Authorized stores & Apple stores - forms available from Apple if Authorized retailer fails to honour it) as long as you kept all your receipts and pack up the computer with the cables etc.

If a new computer comes out you might be able to work out a partial refund (some companies not sure of Apple) if you choose to keep it since they would prefer not taking it back and "refurbing" it if possible.
 
I am always interested in news such as this as it frequently means an update is coming. I am not currently looking to replace my 2010 27" iMac which I purchased in late in the cycle for this model. It still runs great. My needs are modest since I retired and the only real "heavy lifting" I currently do is with Logic X.
If nothing major happens I could wait until SSD prices become a little more reasonable perhaps in a couple of generations.
The iMac provides a lot of bang for the buck IMO. I could buy the base quad core model and have more than I need.
 
bkkcanuck said:
I believe you have 14 days to return your computer from the date of purchase (Apple Authorized stores & Apple stores - forms available from Apple if Authorized retailer fails to honour it) as long as you kept all your receipts and pack up the computer with the cables etc.

If a new computer comes out you might be able to work out a partial refund (some companies not sure of Apple) if you choose to keep it since they would prefer not taking it back and "refurbing" it if possible.
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Yeah, I should be in good shape.

I actually bought it from BestBuy. I am an eliteplus member, so have 45 days to return items that are not cellular connected.
 
nick727 said:
I'd rather pay the premium than build a hackintosh though.
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Most people would, but most of those people would buy a laptop instead anyway. And the laptops are much more reasonably priced for what you get (decent specs and great keyboard and trackpad). Desktops are supposed to be for power users, but the Mac desktops really lack power for the price.
 
Well dang it! Ok everyone, I need advice now. I just ordered a 27-inch iMac 3.5GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 w/pretty much all specs maxed out. It is set to be delivered tomorrow... I was afraid this was going to happen. Should I return it? I am also afraid that I am going to get yet another machine that has the "image persistence" (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202580) issues, yes I said another machine. I already had one that did this. It was terrible. It reminded me of the old CRT burn in thing. And yet Apple calls the "image persistence" thing a non-issue and says it's normal. My rear end... So, yeah what does everyone think?
 
bkkcanuck said:
I am surprised there is a New Zealand store, I would have thought they would just have you use the Aussie store..... doesn't really make sense for a provincial sized island...
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I'm assuming you mean population, because it is physically bigger than the UK.
 
PortCity said:
Many of Apple's competitors are skipping Broadwell on their high end computers in favor of Skylake since it is coming out in the fall. Apple would wise to do the same for the iMacs and 15 inch MacBook Pro.
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Does Skylake provide significant benefits? Worth the wait?
 
JAT said:
I'm assuming you mean population, because it is physically bigger than the UK.
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It is funny how friends from the UK will come over and always surprised at how small our population is (4.4million) given our size could support so much more.

iBug2 said:
Depends on what you expect. You cannot do decent gaming at 5K even with top of the line SLI setup. So gaming should always be done at reduced resolutions, for now.

For video editing and such, faster hardware should bring some benefits indeed.

But the OS X UI slowdowns are more software dependent than GPU right now. You don't need a 5K iMac, even the top of the line Mac Pro at 1400p resolution struggles with Yosemite UI. Apple is aware of this and probably will address it in the next OS X revision.
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True, I heard that day to day operations it is ok but I guess I can always set Civilisation V and Simcity 4 to a lower resolution and avoid the high heat. It is interesting if there is a move to AMD but not surprising that AMD and Intel have been more forth coming with providing driver source code and hardware specifications to both OEM's and the open source community where as with nVidia I always get the feeling that Apple is having to deal with nVidia rather than being able to deal with the driver themselves.
 
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