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Images of New MacBook Pro With Magic Toolbar Leaked in macOS Sierra 10.12.1

Feenician said:
This. One port to rule them all. Device doesn't have that cable right now? Either replace the cable if it it's replaceable or put a small adapter on it. 2 years time this will be a forgotten "issue" and things will be much simpler because everything will simply be USB-C. Power? USB-C. Video? USB-C. Storage? USB-C
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I don't know, I think the one-port ideology works fine a macbook maybe even the macbook air but for the pro I'm expecting more port variety. Not everything is USB-C and I own a lot of things that are not USB-C. Like 3 external memories that use USB 3.0, sd cards from my camera, hdmi cable to connect to projector, etc. I have to carry a dongle now for all these things on a pro device, it would annoy me a little.
 
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BornAgainMac said:
I can see Pages, Keynote, Numbers, iMovie, iPhoto, iTunes, and other apps supporting this touch panel too. It would be nice if Apple sells a keyboard that you can use with the desktop Macs and it isn't a MacBook Pro exclusive.
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Yeah, I'd definitely buy it!
But I don't think they will allow us to spend 150 bucks and steal the new laptops biggest selling point. Plus there is the possible problem of draining batteries way too fast... but I dunno. I'm no battery expert.
 
ilovenewjersey said:
Seriously. I'm on vim hours every day. I could map caps lock to ESC, but I already use that as my CTRL key, so that's not a good option.

This situation is pretty depressing. I could adapt to living without the function keys — despite the macros I've assigned to several of them — but the ESC key might be the last straw. After ten years of OS X, I may have to switch back to linux. Time to go browse the ugly laptops for sale at System76, I guess. :(
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Not sure what problem you're trying to solve by mapping Caps Lock to Ctrl, but in iTerm 2 preferences I remap the right Option key to Ctrl to have a Ctrl key on both sides. I used to remap Esc to Caps Lock in .vimrc but now prefer jj.
 
jwdsail said:
Again, as I said elsewhere, glad it works for you, and some others.. bravo. But, I've yet to meet anyone in meatspace that doesn't hate it. I'm not speaking for *everyone*, just voicing my own opinion, as well as those of the VAST majority of my customers that bitch, quite loudly, about the rMB KB.

I'd rather cut off vital pieces of my body, than buy a $3500+ laptop w/ that POS KB built into it. And, from everything I see out here in the real world, not a comments section or a forum on a website, I'm not in the minority. Far from it.

I'm sorry if that offends.
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If they put the new buttershit keyboard on it, I think 2015 MacBook Pros will become the new 2012 MacBook, which Apple still sells. I actually don't like the new TrackPad either, so I might buy a refurbished 2014 one.

Apple_boy said:
I don't know if the keyboard is different from the Macbook but as for now, I like the Macbook Retina's keyboard. It is smoother, faster and less noisy.
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How fast can you type exactly?
 
Apple_boy said:
I don't know, I think the one-port ideology works fine a macbook maybe even the macbook air but for the pro I'm expecting more port variety. Not everything is USB-C and I own a lot of things that are not USB-C. Like 3 external memories that use USB 3.0, sd cards from my camera, hdmi cable to connect to projector, etc. I have to carry a dongle now for all these things on a pro device, it would annoy me a little.
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I have a thunderbolt to Ethernet, Thunderbolt to DPI/DVI/VGA/HDMI hub thing and an USB hub. I carry these around in my bag as I travel for work and have to use each occasionally. It's not a big deal but I look forward to the day when all I need either nothing or a USB-C hub (if i've used up all in the inbuilt ports already. Unlikely in a MacBook Pro, more relevant to the MacBook)

It's a bit of a catch-22 isn't it? If PC/Mac manufacturers keep including every port under the sun there's not much pressure on device makers to shift to USB-C. If PC/Mac manufacturers start ditching the hetrogenous (and no, unlike some I'm not going to use emotive terms like "legacy" because they don't apply) ports then devices themselves will start to present USB-C and adapters will become inexpensive quickly.

I'm not saying there won't be a little bit of pain in the interim but as you can see from my adapter collection already, pushing towards a world where everything is just USB-C seems like a net win to me.
 
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Creep89 said:
Looks like 13" and thinner bezels.
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Other companies release bezel free phones. And Apple can't even release a laptop with bezel free display ... :(
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TMRJIJ said:
Here's my card, Apple.

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Valid till 01/13. Sorry, it has expired already :p
 
ilovenewjersey said:
I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about. I'm a vim user and I do not use jj; I can't because 'jj' actually shows up in a lot of what I type (I frequently use 'jj' to represent a variable). I do, however, use CTRL-L as a shortcut for ESC. But this only works on my local version of vim, where I added that alias to my .vimrc.

When I ssh to remote *nix machines, which I have to do pretty frequently, I rely on the ESC key.
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Ctrl-[ works everywhere.
 
I'm wondering why they can't cut down that bezel more and give us larger screen space? Is there a reason Apple cant do it when most Windows laptop makers can?
[doublepost=1477457878][/doublepost]Also given that volume button will be touch screen now, I would love it if they had physical volume buttons like on the iPhone, on the side of the laptop. Preferably that doesn't go through MacOS but that operates directly to the speakers so even when operating system lags, volume can be adjusted. It is one of those things that has always annoyed me as my laptop has grown old and slow, whenever some noisy autoplayback begins…
 
PCMA said:
Dear Macrumors - how come I'm still a "newbie" - even though I've been here for over ten years. Kindly rewrite your algorithms. :)
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You and I should spend more time here complaining about everything!

I'll start:

That butterfly keyboard! A diabolical carbuncle!
 
macduke said:
Not to alarm anyone, but the keyboard letter type buttons in the middle are definitely lighter like the touch bar, and the standard shift, command, etc keys around the edges are darker like the Touch ID button. Could the rumor about displays built into individual keys actually be true? Is this why Apple has worked towards making them so slim and flat? The way the gradient on them matches the touch bar but not the return key or any other side buttons is odd, and seems to match up with what that other company recently did with E-Ink. Seems like a strange detail!
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This is a very interesting observation, could be something to it especially for those worried about the esc key.

I hope you're right :)
 
I expect tactile location and typing accuracy for the escape and F-keys, just like the rest of the keyboard.
pcmacgamer said:
Innovation

Touch buttons without physical click will be a total pain for anyone doing real work. Will be interesting to hear them try to market this as a pro machine.

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According to my IT guy, Lenovo and other PC laptop manufacturers have done this touch-strip experiment already. It was a resounding failure, and they went back to physical F-keys.

But since this is Apple, they assume that they will magically make it better. It's a long shot that they will see this as a mistake, even if it results in a pretty poor user experience. Heck, just a little ways away is the bottom bezel of the screen, they could have put touch stuff there instead of changing the keyboard.

I guess when you have a thinner machine, there's room in your bag for a real keyboard. I mean, I don't just use ESC, I use lots of F-keys all the time, I have them bound to debugging step functions in Eclipse, for instance. My hands expect to know their location by touch.
 
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satchmo said:
But...but what about all that courage?
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Oh, don't you worry about it. Apple have courage to do just about pretty much anything they wan't with their products... and people would still buy them. All you can do is make silly jokes about it.
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fivetoedbear said:
According to my IT guy, Lenovo and other PC laptop manufacturers have done this touch-strip experiment already. It was a resounding failure, and they went back to physical F-keys.
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Nothing new there. Where many companies have failed initially with their tech (multi touch screen, fingerprint sensor, tablet etc) Apple have succeeded. So yeah..... all Lenova and other PC manufactures have to do is be patient and see how Apple does it and copy it.
 
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If someone were to Bootcamp Windows and had to Ctrl + Alt + Delete an unresponsive system, how would that go about?

Gaming without those physical F keys is going to be interesting.
 
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