Images of New MacBook Pro With Magic Toolbar Leaked in macOS Sierra 10.12.1

[robeddie]

Every computer throttles. It's even a feature of modern Intel CPUs, bursting in Turbo Mode until the thermals cannot accommodate it. The fact that they say something like "2.2Ghz boosts to 3.4Ghz" is a thin disguise for "3.4Ghz for short times until it gets too hot"



Yes, everything should stay the same size and weight as a 90's laptop so it can reach it's "incredible potential" Utterly moronic. More efficient CPUs built on smaller processes have accommodated lighter and thinner laptops since laptops were "luggables". It's not stopping any time soon.

But with apple, there are ZERO options. You get an overly thin, crippled laptop, imac, etc. or NOTHING.

I'm just saying it would be nice, (no SPECTACULAR) if they made at least one laptop that was balls-out powerful and upgradeable, for those of us who don't have ***** arms and complain about carrying around somthing that weighs more than 3 pounds.

Give us options ... that's all I'm saying.

 

[Feenician]

But with apple, there are ZERO options. You get an overly thin, crippled laptop, imac, etc. or NOTHING.

I'm just saying it would be nice, (no SPECTACULAR) if they made at least one laptop that was balls-out powerful and upgradeable, for those of us who don't have ***** arms that complain about carrying around somthing that weighs more than 3 pounds.

Give us options ... that's all I'm saying.

Get a Dell XPS. I hear they're awesome

 

[Bryan Bowler]

Unless you use programs that expect an Escape key.

In case you haven't already seen it, in the latest version of Sierra, you can remap the Escape key to a number of other physical keys, so Apple has you covered there.

 

[robeddie]

Get a Dell XPS. I hear they're awesome

I still prefer osx. Until very recently, Apple used to make macs that were brilliantly designed, but also close to the top in performance. That's no longer the case, and this next generation of macs is very likely going to widen that gap.

 

[soucisyl]

Touch Id on a Mac is it really secure to have access in my folder? If somebody steal my MacBook, there a lot of my fingerprint on my MacBook stolen. So maybe it's easy to copy my fingerprint and use it to unlock my MBP, no?

 

[ilovenewjersey]

In case you haven't already seen it, in the latest version of Sierra, you can remap the Escape key to a number of other physical keys, so Apple has you covered there.

Wait what? More options than just mapping it to caps lock? Which other keys? God I hope you're right!

 

[Feenician]

I still prefer osx. Until very recently, Apple used to make macs that were brilliantly designed, but also close to the top in performance. That's no longer the case, and this next generation of macs is very likely going to widen that gap.

Apple incorporate the latest suitable CPU for a given form factor when they update and the GPUs are always well behind the curve. Nothing is different here. It'll be 28w and 45w Skylakes, both of which are a bit cooler and more efficiency than their Haswell and Broadwell processors, and which have been available only for a matter of months. Nothing has changed here. Business as usual

 

[fastasleep]

That's how it works when you buy from Apple.

Oh... is sales tax hidden on that screen? Still weird.

 

[jsmith189]

Try typing fast on a physical keyboard. Then go try typing fast on a virtual keyboard on, say, an iPad. You'll see the difference. It's hard to explain why, but tactile feedback makes typing much more efficient.

Typing, sure. That I'd totally understand, because while typing on the iPad isn't difficult I get the preference for physical keys in a typing capacity. But this is one key that you only press once at any given moment. If anything, I would think not having to physically press the button when you move your hand up to the Esc key would make it a quicker operation - you can quickly tap without force and move on.

Different strokes (heh), I guess. We won't know until we actively use it.

 

[Gudi]

Most Apple products in the past few years thermal throttle like crazy. Not just their laptops, but even the iMac thermal throttles. I don't know about the MBP, but I wouldn't be surprised if that did as well.

Yeah, and why would anybody care about heat in a mobile device?

 

[dengpeng]

Shut up and take my money...

 

[ilovenewjersey]

Typing, sure. That I'd totally understand, because while typing on the iPad isn't difficult I get the preference for physical keys in a typing capacity. But this is one key that you only press once at any given moment. If anything, I would think not having to physically press the button when you move your hand up to the Esc key would make it a quicker operation - you can quickly tap without force and move on.

Different strokes (heh), I guess. We won't know until we actively use it.

Perhaps, but I bet that "quick tap" will often not register, which will be extremely frustrating. Remember, I'm using vim, so I'm often hitting escape several times per minute. Pausing to make sure the tap registered is really not acceptable.

 

[Porno]

"It's a Hummer but it is not for everyone". Not for me.

 

[fastasleep]

I realize it's a long comment thread so it's understandable that you missed my posts that already addressed this. Here's the gist: a physical ESC key is quite different from a virtual key. For someone like me who uses ESC very frequently and who has already mapped caps lock to CTRL, it would be a pretty significant blow to my productivity. Significant enough, in fact, that I would seriously have to consider switching back to linux.

I can't follow all the MR threads and hold down a job, so excuse me if I missed something... But I'm still not sure I understand. You haven't used this product yet, so how can you declare it's going to kill your productivity to the point you're threatening to switch to another OS? Maybe you'll get used to it really quickly and it won't be a big deal. Maybe they've engineered and implemented this thing in a way you haven't considered yet. Here's a thought — let's all use it, THEN complain about it.
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Wait what? More options than just mapping it to caps lock? Which other keys? God I hope you're right!

Wait, can I map the "any" key to the "other" key?

 

[Bryan Bowler]

Wait what? More options than just mapping it to caps lock? Which other keys? God I hope you're right!

Here ya go:
https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/25/rema...cbook-pro-macos-sierra-10-12-1-modifier-keys/

Cheers.

 

[macman312]

So I guess the questions are

1) Will they come in different colors ?

2) What does the side look like

3) Screen sizes?

4) Why the f----ing hell would they get rid of the 'esc' key???

 

[abadee]

Hi Everyone, I am new to Mac Rumors and am hoping some of you more experienced Mac people might offer your opinion. I am planning to purchase a topped out 15" rMBP ASAP. (It's just a coincidence my purchase is happening as the new machines are being introduced.) I will only be using this machine for 18 months and then looking to resell. Here's the thing: the current (mid-2015) model is more than enough for my computing needs. But because I am going to need to resell the unit I'm thinking I should get the new 2016 model? I'm just leary of the new model because it is new and their may be unforeseen issues/bugs with the new design and the idea of not having a variety of ports is a concern. I want to do what I can to ensure I get the best return at the time of resale and I'm thinking the 2015 model we seem grossly outdated in 18 months time. What would you advise? Any insight from you longtime Mac users would be appreciated. Thank you for you time.

 

[ilovenewjersey]

I can't follow all the MR threads and hold down a job, so excuse me if I missed something... But I'm still not sure I understand. You haven't used this product yet, so how can you declare it's going to kill your productivity to the point you're threatening to switch to another OS? Maybe you'll get used to it really quickly and it won't be a big deal. Maybe they've engineered and implemented this thing in a way you haven't considered yet. Here's a thought — let's all use it, THEN complain about it.

Just to be clear, I didn't mean to sound snide when I said it's understandable that you missed my posts. I honestly think it's understandable!

I never declared with certainty that the new MBP will kill my productivity, but I have legitimate fears. In other comments in this thread I made it clear that I'm hoping it turns out to be a change to which I can adapt, but I'm worried it won't be, and I'm not going to spend $3000 on a new laptop if I'm not certain it's the best choice.

 

[cult hero]

I hear only the two on the back, towards the display, are Thunderbolt-enabled, the two in the front are just USB.

That's livable I guess. Being able to charge from either side is nice. Still, hoping all four are Thunderbolt and charge capable. Going to a single connector type but having ports that operate differently kinda blows.

We'll see Thursday.

But with apple, there are ZERO options. You get an overly thin, crippled laptop, imac, etc. or NOTHING.

I'm just saying it would be nice, (no SPECTACULAR) if they made at least one laptop that was balls-out powerful and upgradeable, for those of us who don't have ***** arms and complain about carrying around somthing that weighs more than 3 pounds.

Give us options ... that's all I'm saying.

Apple isn't going to provide those options. Their design has ALWAYS been opinionated. I don't think techs who upgrade their own laptops have any idea what a puny demographic they are. There are companies and niches where those kinds of people are disproportionately represented but the Apple of today is not one of those places and it's extremely unlikely that will ever be the case again. Apple is not going to sacrifice its design ideals or what appeals to its larger customer base to satisfy angry forum-dwellers.

It's like the group that used to wish Apple would release a consumer-grade upgradeable tower for years around here. Apple never did and was never going to. There's a reason they don't even sell a 17" laptop anymore.

I'm not even saying Apple's way is the best, but they are consistent and have been consistent about it. If you want an upgradable brick of a laptop, they exist. Get one. You'll probably be very happy with it.

 

[JeffyTheQuik]

Fair point. I'm going to say the majority of fingerprint scanners I've come across don't scan the whole fingerprint like in films but the middle portion of the fingerprint, because the surrounding edge would have to hit the exact same spot to register. In the late 90s I worked in an office building that used a finger print and key card scanner that worked maybe 25% of the time and the rest of the time it was a battle to get access. By the time I left, they switched to RFID cards, which also worked with the parking which was neat.

That makes sense. I was looking at my iPhone 6+ and it may be overcompensating, as the home button is the same size as it's always been.

 

[ilovenewjersey]

Wait, can I map the "any" key to the "other" key?

I don't understand.

 

[audicat]

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[fastasleep]

Just to be clear, I didn't mean to sound snide when I said it's understandable that you missed my posts. I honestly think it's understandable!

I never declared with certainty that the new MBP will kill my productivity, but I have legitimate fears. In other comments in this thread I made it clear that I'm hoping it turns out to be a change to which I can adapt, but I'm worried it won't be, and I'm not going to spend $3000 on a new laptop if I'm not certain it's the best choice.

Understood. There's just such a sea of people fretting over imaginary situations that they can't possibly cope with involving the ports or touch strip or Kaby Lake or whatever without their lives going to shambles, that a more reasoned bit of concern gets lost in it.
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I don't understand.

That was a joke.

 

[jwdsail]

Dude, I got a 12" MacBook last week (just to see if I could get away with using it, or if I'd need the Pro for my job.) I love the keyboard. One of my studiomates also loves the keyboard on her brother's, who also loves the keyboard. We all think it's a huge improvement. Faster to type on, less pounding on the keys, and the keys just feel more generally solid.

I'm going to be bumped if the new Pros don't have the keyboard.

I wish people on the Internet would stop speaking for everybody.

Again, as I said elsewhere, glad it works for you, and some others.. bravo. But, I've yet to meet anyone in meatspace that doesn't hate it. I'm not speaking for *everyone*, just voicing my own opinion, as well as those of the VAST majority of my customers that bitch, quite loudly, about the rMB KB.

I'd rather cut off vital pieces of my body, than buy a $3500+ laptop w/ that POS KB built into it. And, from everything I see out here in the real world, not a comments section or a forum on a website, I'm not in the minority. Far from it.

I'm sorry if that offends.

 

[danskin]

The keyboard on the Macbook isn't good. However i'm in love with the new magic keyboard. I think it's the best keyboard i've used other than mechanical keyboards. I thought both keyboards use the butterfly mechanism but the magic keyboard just feels so good.