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iOS still doesn’t even allow you to transfer content by wire from the Files.app yet. 🤣
True, I have to move the files into another app's folder so that iTunes can see it and copy it. You would think at least the downloads folder should be available in iTunes.o_O
 
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S23 has USB 3.2 gen 1.
I stand corrected, interestingly, it seems many are only getting 480Mbps when using compliant cables with the S23. Oddly the person who was able to show faster than USB 2.0 speeds with an S23 was using an Apple Thunderbolt cable connected to a MacBook. A similar issue is present on the Google Pixel 7 Pro which also claims USB 3.2.

Although it does look like most Android phones are still using 2.0 and those that claim USB 3.x spec aren’t always capable of the speed and seem to just be taking advantage of the fast charging features of the spec.

The USB-C spec is a total mess says Android Authority and I think most would agree. I guess we’ll see if Apple can simplify things for their customers. I know I love the idea of using my iPhone as a video monitor.
 
I’m one of those who actually backup their iPhone to the Mac and I will continue to do so, regardless of actual speed… I plug it in, initiate backup and if it takes 15 minutes so be it, if it takes 2 minutes, so be it.
I’ve been using airdrop to copy my photos and videos from iPhone to Mac and will continue to do so, if it takes 10 minutes, fine with me…
So many people here have stated that no one transfers data via a cable yet everyone complains about the speed…
I get that some need faster transfer and I’m happy for them
 
It is pretty wild. I did a cursory look at Android phones and it appears even with the adoption of USB-C, every phone I looked at still uses USB 2.0 - even the brand new top of the line Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra.

Maybe Apple’s move will lead other manufacturers to follow suit because this is ridiculously overdue.
Some of the low level Samsung use 2.0 (the A models), but the Galaxy line all uses 3 or higher (the S23 Ultra is 3.2). Google's Pixel line has had USB 3 since the first Pixel eight years ago.

A few Android phones actually had the feature removed between revisions as it wasn't worth the cost on lower level products.
 
Lots of people still do for charging and CarPlay, but people use iTunes, Apple Music and flash drives to transfer stuff
Charging, CarPlay, and Apple Music will be unaffected by faster transfer speeds. Especially as new CarPlay cars now target wireless, they wouldn’t release a feature that requires thunderbolt to work.

I’m not sure who is completely wiping a 1-2TB iTunes music library and re-syncing from scratch several times over the phone’s lifespan, but I’m happy for them here I guess.

Obvious use case for 4k60fps footage and beyond, though. I’ve not seen anyone use their phone as a flash drive for years, but I’m sure some small group of them exist as well.

Overall this seems irrelevant to 99% of iPhone owners, but I’m sure if it doesn’t happen it’ll be another year of outrage headlines. The majority of people I know who own an iPhone have never plugged it into a computer. Everything comes over WiFi.
 
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iOS still doesn’t even allow you to transfer content by wire from the Files.app yet. 🤣
What, precisely, do you mean by that? I can use both hard drives and network file servers connected to via a USB ethernet adapter just fine from the files app. Dont get me wrong, the app is a mess compared to a true full file manager, but I dont have the limitations you’re claiming…
 
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What, precisely, do you mean by that? I can use both hard drives and network file servers connected to via a USB ethernet adapter just fine from the files app. Dont get me wrong, the app is a mess compared to a true full file manager, but I dont have the limitations you’re claiming…
I believe they mean directly plugging the iPhone into a Mac.
 
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I stand corrected, interestingly, it seems many are only getting 480Mbps when using compliant cables with the S23. Oddly the person who was able to show faster than USB 2.0 speeds with an S23 was using an Apple Thunderbolt cable connected to a MacBook. A similar issue is present on the Google Pixel 7 Pro which also claims USB 3.2.

Although it does look like most Android phones are still using 2.0 and those that claim USB 3.x spec aren’t always capable of the speed and seem to just be taking advantage of the fast charging features of the spec.

The USB-C spec is a total mess says Android Authority and I think most would agree. I guess we’ll see if Apple can simplify things for their customers. I know I love the idea of using my iPhone as a video monitor.
Speeds depend on the cable you use. They probably have a 2.0 cable included (because cost) but to get 3 speeds you need a 3 cable. Apples TB cables support USB 3 speeds.
 
That's not artificial. Lightning only has 8 pins (two lanes), and can't support higher speeds, at least not very much higher. Only the special lightning port and accessory in an iPad could do more.
Apple themselves make a Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter that allow iPad Pros to transfer files at up to 5 Gbps so the Lightning port standard can support greater than USB 2.0 speeds. They just never released a Lightning to USB 3 cable to enable 5 Gbps connections to a computer. And since 10 Gbps USB 3.1 speeds don't require more pins/lanes than 5 Gbps USB 3.0 speeds, 10 Gbps speeds are likely possible with Lightning if Apple wanted to implement it. It makes you wonder why Apple never widely implemented greater than USB 2.0 speeds with Lightning since that would have reduced the perceived advantage of USB-C over Lightning for transfer speeds and may have prolonged the usefulness of Lightning.
 
Unpopular opinion: Transfer speeds don't mean diddly squat to what I would think is the vast majority of iPhone users. The last time I plugged in my phone to a computer was to transfer songs onto my iPhone 7 from my itunes library. If keeping usb 2 speeds keeps cost down, fine by me. I'm certain there are folks with other uses that require thunderbolt speeds, but that is probably such a small percentage of users.
Part of the reason I stopped bothering with plugging in my phone was because of how slow it was to transfer data. This should alleviate that.
 
Instead of being happy about this news, we should be more reflective and realize Apple's decision to artificially cap its modern phones to USB 2.0 speeds shouldn't have happened. I don't understand how their current 2022 model, using a cable they designed (Lightning), is using a standard/speed released in 2000 and that was replaced in 2008. When they switch this year's models to USB-C if they artificially cap even the cheapest model to USB 2.0 speeds, I'll be disappointed but not surprised.
I wouldn't describe USB 2.0 speed USB-C as an artificial cap, because the USB-C spec only requires USB 2.0 data speeds. In fact, for USB-C there are mandatory, dedicated data pins for USB 2.0 whereas higher than USB 2.0 speeds are enabled by separate, optional data pins which operate in parallel. So it's not like manufacturers that implement USB 2.0 USB-C ports and cables are removing or crippling something that already exists in standard USB-C hardware. They are simply not adding in additional hardware and it's associated cost that are optional in the USB-C spec. Now whether that's a good implementation choice given their target market is another matter.
 
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Apple themselves make a Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter that allow iPad Pros to transfer files at up to 5 Gbps so the Lightning port standard can support greater than USB 2.0 speeds.
No it can’t, not really. That’s not a regular lightning port, but a two-sided one (16 pins, probably four lanes). Cables only contain 8 wires, so it only works with the specific adapter released for it. So it’s really a restricted form of Lightning 2.
 
It did, years ago, like almost ten years ago. Apple killed that plug long ago. You could explore your iPhone‘s folders without jail breaking it but ”security” killed it
You can plug in your phone to your Mac and explore the Files using Finder. It is a custom interface as much of the data on phones is stored in sqlite and other databases instead of files, but it does give you access. Most of my iPhone apps store their data in iCloud anyway.
 
Never understood why we didn’t have Thunderbolt speeds with the Lightning connector. Best of both worlds. I blame Apple for the failure of Lightning adoption. The USB-C connector stinks in all physical considerations.
 
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