iMovie '08 Was Originally Called 'First Cut', Ubillos on Final Cut Pro X

[H. Flower]

If you didn't do that, then what's your complaint about Apple "replacing" FCP7? Your existing FCP7 didn't magically break when FCPX was released, did it?

Final Cut 7 is no longer supported by Apple. Do you understand the implications/consequences of that, especially in the context of a business?

Answer: No, because if you did, you wouldn't have made the comment to begin with.

 

[H. Flower]

I don't do video editing, but with all the trolling and anti-Apple hate that par for the course on the Internet...

I can't help but feel that this is antenna-gate all over again**, where the haters see blood in the water and blow the whole thing out of proportion with the media joining in the mass hysteria when they see there is ad money to be made.

/shrug
But what do I know.

Not much. You're trivializing peoples' concerns for their business/livelihood. Well done.

 

[H. Flower]

This thread is just like attempting to discuss video camera capabilities with people. You find a whole bunch of canon fans claiming that canon cameras are "pro" and that everything else sucks because it isn't "pro".

They don't understand the technology. They can't make a specific argument. They can't defend when the canon implementation is demonstrably poorer for video than a competitors. They don't even listen to that.

They just keep insisting that because they are a "pro" anything they like is also "professional quality" and anything they don't is amateur.

I doubt most of them have ever gotten a paid gig.

And, for what its worth, even though it's irrelevant-- I've been getting paid to cut going back to the days when cuts were made with special razorblades.

If you want serious, information-based discussion/debate over FCPX, there are other forums out there right now. Stick around MacRumors and you're arguing with iPhone fanboys.

 

[NAG]

Apple dropped the floppy before their was a good replacement for them.

Zip, Jazz, and Superfloppy were all contemporary to the floppy and all were superior to floppies. Superfloppy even read the old floppies. Just because USB memory sticks weren't cheap yet or CD-Rs didn't cost pennies doesn't mean there weren't good replacements.

At the time Apple dropped the floppy please tell me how you would move small files between computers. Oh wait that was done by floppy.

I personally used a network, zip, and superfloppy. So yeah, there were plenty of alternatives out there.

Remember at the time Blank CD were 2-3 bucks a piece IF you could find them. On top of that burners at the time were several 100 bucks so again they were very costly.
Flash drives did not existed so that was not an option.
Email at the time was text only and file attachment was not easy to do if all all. These were the days of dial up. Download speeds was at 10 mins per meg. Inbox sizes were maxing out at 1-2 megs.

Again, you seem to have selective memory about what alternatives were actually out there. Zip drives were quite popular and it was thought they were going to win the media wars before CD-Rs became cheap for large stuff and USB memory sticks became reasonable, effectively attacking floppy from both sides. The only thing keeping floppy alive was the fact that it was included in every machine.

So please tell me how would you transfer files between computers?

By crying magical tears on a old, dead-end technology. Oh wait...

No one is arguing that floppies were on their way out. We could all see they would be phased out. Optical media still has years left in it. We do not have a suitable replacement really in place yet. We do not have the bandwidth really out there to download those files. Until we get down to 1 gig per min in terms of download speed it just is not happening. Right best case is 10 min per gig. When that gets down to 1/10 the speed for cheap price then yes we optical media will be dead but until then not going to happen.

Wait...

Apple dropped the floppy before their was a good replacement for them.

No one is arguing that floppies were on their way out.

So you're arguing that there were no replacements, even though there were because everyone knew floppies were on their way out. I'm sorry, but you are suffering massively selective memory here.

As for SCSI I believe those are still used today but more in server environments. Something Apple has not really had any real operation in for years so not really an issue there.

It doesn't change the fact that at the time people were saying apple was "giving the middle finger to the pros" because they'd have to upgrade their devices or buy a SCSI card for a tower. It is the exact same argument people are making today because it is the exact same, wrong, argument people pull out regarding any Apple news. How many times does this argument need to be disproven before people stop using it all the time?

Now Apple really should offer ESata ports at the least or Esata/USB since those plug directly into the SATA controller on a computer and you basically get the speed of it being a native hard drive. Apple lags in those departments.

That isn't related to the subject at hand because the lightpeak thing went over pretty well (didn't see many people claiming apple was giving them the middle finger or killing their dog or whatnot).

Jesus, I just read some of the most upvoted comments on from the front page of this article..

Well there's your problem. I think my most upvoted post in these forums was the one where I applied a cloud filter to a picture of an elevator hours before the iCloud announcement. Personally, if I read threads here I read all the content and ignore the voting junk – it just gets in the way.

 

[H. Flower]

It doesn't change the fact that at the time people were saying apple was "giving the middle finger to the pros" because they'd have to upgrade their devices or buy a SCSI card for a tower. It is the exact same argument people are making today because it is the exact same, wrong, argument people pull out regarding any Apple news. How many times does this argument need to be disproven before people stop using it all the time?

Even if it was *exactly* the same (which it isn't), you're fallaciously appealing to history and ignoring times when companies weren't ahead of a new, successful paradigm.

In other words, bad argument.

 

[NAG]

Even if it was *exactly* the same (which it isn't), you're fallaciously appealing to history and ignoring times when companies weren't ahead of a new, successful paradigm.

In other words, bad argument.

Please explain your argument that my argument is bad. Calling someone's argument bad without reasoning is a bad argument, unless you're trying to be ironic.

 

[H. Flower]

Please explain your argument that my argument is bad. Calling someone's argument bad without reasoning is a bad argument, unless you're trying to be ironic.

http://www.criticalthinking.org.uk/unit2/fundamentals/logicalfallacies/appealtohistory/

And you're ignoring instances when companies' features/actions *weren't* forward thinking..... you're only referencing successes, not failures.

 

[NAG]

http://www.criticalthinking.org.uk/unit2/fundamentals/logicalfallacies/appealtohistory/

And you're ignoring instances when companies' features/actions *weren't* forward thinking..... you're only referencing successes, not failures.

You're failing to give examples of Apple failing at something when the popular argument at the time was that Apple was giving them the middle finger. I have given several examples and supported my arguments. You have pointed out how I can't be 100% certain because I don't have a time machine. Yes, I don't have a time machine, I can only show evidence and a trend that people who throw out the line that Apple is personally attacking them are being irrational. In this instance, yes, Apple could be attacking them and wanting them all to go away or some other unreasonable thing.

So yes, there is my argument on one side that assumes Apple will continue to be reasonable in their relatively stable framework and on your side you are saying Apple could have gone bananas. I can't argue against that because you haven't given me anything to actually talk about since you haven't said anything.

Oh and since you like your link so much:

This is not to say that we can’t use the past as a guide to the future, merely that predictions of the future based on the past need to be treated with caution.

How am I not doing that? How am I not calling for reason? I think you're conflating my posts with those of everyone you disagree with. I am not, in fact, a hive-mind. Sorry.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Zip, Jazz, and Superfloppy were all contemporary to the floppy and all were superior to floppies. Superfloppy even read the old floppies. Just because USB memory sticks weren't cheap yet or CD-Rs didn't cost pennies doesn't mean there weren't good replacements.



I personally used a network, zip, and superfloppy. So yeah, there were plenty of alternatives out there.

And Zip for example Never caught on and again all those things you listed were cost prohibitive. Top it off Apple did not offer any of them built into there computers.
If I remember right Zip drives were around what 100 bucks a piece. They never caught on and still very limited. Top it off they were not standard in any computer. Apple computers at the time came with ONLY a CD drive. The floppy was I believe a rather costly extra piece of equipment to buy one that worked with Apple. Compared that to a 10 buck cost to buy one for PC back then.

You did not list a single item that came close in terms of cost to a floppy at the time.

What truly killed off the floppy was USB drives.

As for you argument on me saying yes it was easy to tell even back then that something was going to replace the floppy there was no denying that. Even then its file size was limited but a suitable replacement had not even gotten close to going main stream for a few more years. USB was what finished of the floppy.

 

[K42]

If by now pros/enterprise don't understand that dealing with Apple is a bag of hurt, I don't know what it'll take. Move to vendors that have clearly defined roadmaps and sensible EOL/EOS announcements.

It is even worse. Dealing with Apple is a bag of hurt for consumers too.

Long ago, I used iMovie 6 for turning my family DV tapes into DVD's. In this line of work you just need to cut out the really bad parts, maybe some simple transitions, some audio control, and a way to create sensible chapters on a DVD.

Then Apple released iMovie 8. I bought it (i.e. iLife), but I soon discovered that I could not create chapter markers anymore. Well, only every x minutes or so, which is completely useless. I asked my money back. Apple refused.

Suing Apple over 80 Euros's did not seem sensible, so instead I downloaded an illegal version of FCP. The learning curve was a bit steep, but in the end I got quite handy at using it. And now my brother in law has a very nice DVD of his wedding.

This however did not feel right. I almost bought FC Express. Then I discovered that FCP X was about to be released so I waited for it. But when it was out, I saw that DVD Studio was gone!

As my wife is a teacher we are now considering buying the educational edition of premiere + encore instead. I am also seriously considering buying the PC version and using bootcamp to run it, so that I am not bound to Apple hardware anymore.

The point of all this: I think this is silly. Is it so hard for Apple to understand that home users want to have a sensible way to create nice DVDs on Mac?

And don't give me that crap that DVDs are "old technology". I am not going to put personal stuff on some video streaming website. A DVD is by far the easiest. Some of my family do not even have computers.

BTW: I am an experienced software developer. To all the people that say that Apple "had to do this" in order to be ready for the future I say: it is completely beyond me why Apple was unable to do this within the codebase of FCP 7. We refactor our code all the time without breaking existing functionality. If we couldn't, we would soon be out of business. I know that they can do this too. They went from Motorola 68000, to PowerPc to Intel for christs sake.

 

[RedTomato]

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And Zip for example Never caught on and again all those things you listed were cost prohibitive. Top it off Apple did not offer any of them built into there computers.
If I remember right Zip drives were around what 100 bucks a piece. They never caught on and still very limited. Top it off they were not standard in any computer. Apple computers at the time came with ONLY a CD drive.

Under my desk I have a Blue & White PowerMac G3. 350mhz I think, and heavily advertised as the worlds first personal supercomputer (yeah right). Came with a CD drive AND a zip drive and a special bay / front plate for the zip. I replaced mine with a HD long ago but the front plate is still there.

 

[Eidorian]

Under my desk I have a Blue & White PowerMac G3. 350mhz I think, and heavily advertised as the worlds first personal supercomputer (yeah right). Came with a zip drive and a special bay / front plate for it. I replaced mine with a HD long ago but the front plate is still there.

The Beige Power Macs came with Zip Drives as well. The trend continued until the Quicksilver 2002.

 

[NAG]

And Zip for example Never caught on and again all those things you listed were cost prohibitive. Top it off Apple did not offer any of them built into there computers.

Superfloppy took regular floppies and the drive didn't cost much more than a regular floppy drive. Apple didn't give you a free USB memory stick either, so I don't find the claim that Apple has to supply the drive as compelling enough when adding the ability was cheap enough (they did sell the option for BTO tower with a zip drive until it became obvious that ZIP wasn't going to win...but tell people at the time that ZIP was dead and you'd have quite the argument).

If I remember right Zip drives were around what 100 bucks a piece. They never caught on and still very limited. Top it off they were not standard in any computer. Apple computers at the time came with ONLY a CD drive. The floppy was I believe a rather costly extra piece of equipment to buy one that worked with Apple. Compared that to a 10 buck cost to buy one for PC back then.

You either weren't around or are failing to remember the huge arguments on Mac forums regarding the viability of ZIP. There were quite a few adamant supporters of it. People claiming their print shop was dependent on it, saying how the capacity was increasing with the new version of ZIP disks, etc... Yeah, the drives were a bit pricey (why I was on the superfloppy side at the time). You could get a floppy drive with USB for under $20 if I'm remembering correctly. Hardly breaking the bank compared to your $10 figure.

You did not list a single item that came close in terms of cost to a floppy at the time.

So your only point is that floppy had the price advantage at the time. Not much of an argument really considering there were drives that could handle both the old floppies and new ones. I don't think Apple wanted to risk jumping on a format before the consumers decided (Xbox HDDVD drive anyone) but they felt there needed to be a break point where the consumers had to decide, which they helped along by dropping the floppy.

What truly killed off the floppy was USB drives.

That and CD-Rs getting cheap. USB drives are not cheap even today ($20 for one drive that you can't give to your friend unless you're just loaning it). So you're kind of contradicting your price is everything argument there. I think USB drives won because they were faster, bigger, and less likely to corrupt and lose your data than all the alternatives. Price wasn't a factor.

As for you argument on me saying yes it was easy to tell even back then that something was going to replace the floppy there was no denying that. Even then its file size was limited but a suitable replacement had not even gotten close to going main stream for a few more years. USB was what finished of the floppy.

And go figure, Apple put USB on all their machines at the same time they killed the floppy.

 

[Chaos123x]

For those who wan't FCP X to be improved you have to fight back!

If you bought the software and are unhappy, please, please, please, make sure you go to the App Store and review with only one star. Does it deserve only one star? Maybe not, but it will get apples attention. So give it a one star till apple get's it up to speed.

If your unhappy and have not bought go to the App store and click on reviews with one star and mark them helpful. Anyone with a 5 star mark them unhelpful! All other ratings leave them alone.

This only one of the ways to get Apples attention, you got to spread the word to all the other forums you post on for this to work.

Can you imagine Steve Jobs reaction if FCP got down to a one star rating on the App store? The ***** would hit the fan.

 

[sigamy]

* It took almost 2.5 years to go from Final Cut Studio 2 to Final Cut Studio 3, and Final Cut Studio 3 was just a moderate update. Then it took almost another 2 full years to introduce Final Cut Pro X, which removed tons of features!

* Apple bought Shake, and then cancelled it. Cancelled it! Apple said there would be a next-generation app coming in Shake's place, but that never showed up.

* Apple started letting Logic atrophy.

* Apple "phoned-in" the last few Mac Pro updates...Many people are wondering if the new Thunderbolt port will be Apple's excuse to give up on the Mac Pro altogether.

* Apple stopped updating its "Pro" page almost two years ago, here: http://www.apple.com/pro/

* Apple stopped attending NAB, and other standard industry events.

* Multiple rumors that Apple was trying to sell its Pro Apps division....


People have spent a lot of time and money building their businesses and careers around FCP. But since the iPhone launched, FCP and other pro apps and gear have gotten noticeably less attention.

That makes a lot of people nervous, and left to wonder what Apple's intentions are. You really can't help but wonder because Apple is so ridiculously silent about its intentions, which works fine on the consumer side but not when people are investing tens of thousands of dollars in apps and gear around Apple.

Combine that with Apple shipping a new version of Final Cut that is so radically different and so underpowered, and also discontinuing sales for FCS 3 suites and FCP Server (with no explanation about Server's demise or any intentions on bringing back multi-user functionality) and you can see how the dam finally burst in the Pro community and the angry flood waters rushed in.

Apple better start communicating better with its pro customers, and re-assuring them that it's committed to professional work in this new era of the iPhone/iPad. Otherwise, a lot of people will be heading for the doors...

Apple doesn't own an explanation to any customers unless those customers happen to be shareholders. Apple is a public corporation with one goal--to maximize shareholder wealth. Jobs of course, wants to change the world and intersect technology and liberal arts but Apple, as a company, is in this to make money.

What percentage of Apple's income comes from Pro apps vs. iOS devices?

If you find that corporate video pays more, for less work, than wedding video won't you move into corporate? If a past wedding client is getting re-married and wants to use your services and you decline, do you "owe" something to that person?

All the "Pros" out there are yelping and screaming that Apple owes you something because your small business is built off of FCP investments. Please. Why did you invest in FCP? Because it was the best, most affordable solution for you business!!!! If Premiere was better, you'd have gone with that. You mean to tell me if Premiere was just as good as Final Cut since 2000 and Premiere costs less and offered same support, you all would have picked FCP and paid more? NO! You would make the better business decision.

Have you been sending Apple a percentage of the income you've made using the tools they have designed for you? How much have you all spent on FCP/FCS in the past 5 years? Do you feel you have profited above that amount? If so, don't you think you "owe" Apple some piece of your good fortune?

And what about all the Pros who abandoned Avid when FCP became a viable alternative? Where is the loyalty there? Avid stuck by you, offering you update after update of over-priced, over-compilcated systems. Then Apple sweeps in with a $1,000 package and changes the game.

Guess what? Apple is doing that here again. They are giving a new, cutting edge tool to a new class of users.

Time will tell if the hooks into real Pro workflows are added. But guess what? Apple doesn't owe anyone anything.

 

[AidenShaw]

If you want serious, information-based discussion/debate over FCPX, there are other forums out there right now. Stick around MacRumors and you're arguing with iPhone fanboys.

No amount of "down-voting" will affect the truth of this statement.

There's been way too much "Apple can do no wrong, and if you don't agree you are a hater and a whiner" posting here since the Iphone crowd arrived.

 

[NAG]

For those who wan't FCP X to be improved you have to fight back!

If you bought the software and are unhappy, please, please, please, make sure you go to the App Store and review with only one star. Does it deserve only one star? Maybe not, but it will get apples attention. So give it a one star till apple get's it up to speed.

If your unhappy and have not bought go to the App store and click on reviews with one star and mark them helpful. Anyone with a 5 star mark them unhelpful! All other ratings leave them alone.

This only one of the ways to get Apples attention, you got to spread the word to all the other forums you post on for this to work.

Can you imagine Steve Jobs reaction if FCP got down to a one star rating on the App store? The ***** would hit the fan.

I'd add make sure you draft your review. Write a really nasty one first and don't submit it so you can get all your rants out. Then make a nice, thoughtful explanation of what you want/need. I think that would be helpful, otherwise you're not really better than the usual App Store review crowd who complains about something not being free or something else equally as silly.

 

[sigamy]

Final Cut 7 is no longer supported by Apple. Do you understand the implications/consequences of that, especially in the context of a business?

Answer: No, because if you did, you wouldn't have made the comment to begin with.

Seriously, so what if FCP 7 is no longer going to be updated? What is the problem? You have to learn a new tool? Wouldn't you have to do that someday any way?

I run into this all the time in corporate IT. Microsoft with Windows, Office and SQL Server, Oracle is famous for this, IBM Cognos with reporting tools. We make a decision on which sw we can run with no support until the time comes when we can do an upgrade/conversion project. In addition we do SW evaluations to keep an eye on each tech segment and determine if the product we are currently using should be kept or replaced with a competitor.

Point is, we never assume that a software product is going to stay in its current form or even exist going forward.

Sounds to me like many small business owners haven't properly planned or budget for this type of change and now feel Apple owes them something. I just don't see it that way.

 

[JPJones]

Apple doesn't own an explanation to any customers unless those customers happen to be shareholders.

Well I’m a shareholder and I want to know.

I would like to know what they really think of the future of true professionals in The Apple ecosystem and how they’ll best be served by Apple. By not offering a “real” professional video software, they run the risk of lost computer sales (yes, Apple still makes computers).

I’m afraid that Apple no longer cares for the professional market because of their beloved iToys. But after that market is saturated (as the iPods already are), who will be left to hold them up once the pros have moved other platforms and are no longer buying mass amounts of computer hardware.

 

[K42]

Seriously, so what if FCP 7 is no longer going to be updated? What is the problem? You have to learn a new tool? Wouldn't you have to do that someday any way?

I run into this all the time in corporate IT. Microsoft with Windows, Office and SQL Server, Oracle is famous for this, IBM Cognos with reporting tools. We make a decision on which sw we can run with no support until the time comes when we can do an upgrade/conversion project. In addition we do SW evaluations to keep an eye on each tech segment and determine if the product we are currently using should be kept or replaced with a competitor.

Point is, we never assume that a software product is going to stay in its current form or even exist going forward.

Sounds to me like many small business owners haven't properly planned or budget for this type of change and now feel Apple owes them something. I just don't see it that way.

I seriously doubt that if microsoft stopped support on Word, and left you with a successor that could not read "old" Word files that this would just be business as usual for you.

Especially if they would also be working on Windows 8, and there would be no certainty that the old Word would still run on it.

You are saying that you would just forget about your investments in Word and "just" go to a competitor to buy their product?

I do not believe you.

 

[NAG]

I seriously doubt that if microsoft stopped support on Word, and left you with a successor that could not read "old" Word files that this would just be business as usual for you.

Especially if they would also be working on Windows 8, and there would be no certainty that the old Word would still run on it.

You are saying that you would just forget about your investments in Word and "just" go to a competitor to buy their product?

I do not believe you.

Actually, I don't keep anything vital in Word out of fear that such a thing could occur. Yeah, I'm weird. I've seen enough people get burned because a proprietary format suddenly isn't supported anymore that I don't want that to happen to me. It is how the tech industry works, things just stop working sometimes.

How this relates to Apple dropping support for old FCP projects...I don't know. How easy would it be for them to continue to support it and so on? Beats me. It should be something that is addressed though because it would be nice to know.

 

[iBug2]

I seriously doubt that if microsoft stopped support on Word, and left you with a successor that could not read "old" Word files that this would just be business as usual for you.

Especially if they would also be working on Windows 8, and there would be no certainty that the old Word would still run on it.

You are saying that you would just forget about your investments in Word and "just" go to a competitor to buy their product?

I do not believe you.

Things like this happened before you know? Adobe bought Macromedia and discontinued Freehand, which was more popular than Illustrator back then. There was no Freehand import on Illustrator, and eventually Freehand stopped working due to not having an intel port. Right now all those Freehand projects people worked on for years is basically inaccessible.

There are still people in desktop publishing and graphic design who keep a G4 tower on the side just to run Freehand in case they need to access their old work.

Life goes and people find ways to deal with such things.

I'm not saying that we should just let the software companies screw people as they like, but it happens.

 

[captain kaos]

You know, apple really has ruined it.

The main issues i can see, as a technical support guy in a film and tv post house is simple. Editors do not have time to relearn an editing package. They spend 16 hr days cutting programmes with no time for lunch, let alone having to work out what the simple moves are in a new programme. We have editors that ask what programme we use, Avid or FCP, because if their main editing knowledge is one or the other, or even a 80% knowledge of one against 100% of another, they will go to a job with the more knowledge.

Post house's will also only buy an editing package if they have a job coming in that will cover costs of purchase, and then only if they can find an editor. I know for our company we have to direct the production to editors, so if this FCX turns people off you will find a huge gap of talent thats ready to cut professionally and it won't take long for the FCP editors to think "might as well go to Avid" It'll be the final thing that pushes them to over.

Support of old FCP projects, or lack of, is another very strange idea with apple. We have programmes that come back to re edit a season, or several years later. To say that a client can't bring in an old FCP project and start recutting is rediculas! We know that is someone brings an Avid project from 10 years + ago, it will still be read by Avid Version 6. Not having this option in FC isa massive oversight by apple. They may be able to force people to move to new tech and software, but you can't do that in the production world.

We have 20 Avid cutting rooms, and one G5 Mac with FCP 7. It hasn't been used for cutting for months. I just think this version of Final Cut might be the final nail in the coffin of a Pro Apple editing packing being used professionally.

I may sound Avid biased, but im not (theres plenty of things i hate about Avid!)

 

[smulji]

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I really can't believe all the super critical criticism going on with fcpx. The sheer amount of bitterness is ridiculous. Did people really think it was going to play nicely with their existing plugins right from the start without even giving developers time to rewrite? Did they really believe it would be able to open up existing projects even though its clear the program has been completely rewritten and works in a completely new and different way? And what the heck are you doing upgrading your software if you are in the middle of a freaking project?!?!

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And yes there are some missing features that many higher end workflows need but A) if you are in a situation that uses high end workflows you shouldn't be upgrading immediately anyway because Version 1 software always has bugs and its too big of a risk and B) if they had been paying any attention to the numerous blog postings and other sources of information from notable people in the industry that have had access to it for a while and have talked to engineers instead of ranting after using it for less then 24 hours then they'd know that there are already workarounds for a few of the missing features, that there will be numerous opportunities for 3rd parties to fill niche gaps that Apple has decided to leave open and that Apple will be working with developers soon on that, and they'd also know that apple has made it clear that many features and additions will be coming in the future and from the sound of it in the very near future.

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It's a completely new program people!!! And one that gets a heck of a lot more right than it gets wrong (and it does get some things wrong...different post though) There is no possible way it could have duplicated all the functionality of FCP7 right from the start.

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The only thing that people should be complaining about at all is the FCP7 is no longer available for sale - that does seem like a bit of dumb decision to me - but it seems most are not complaining about that they're just too busy giving FCPX 1 star reviews kicking and screaming.

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Alright, rant done. I'm not normally this harsh but this really bugs me. The people at Apple have put a tremendous amount of effort into making this program and building a robust foundation for the future and it seems hardly anyone can see past the next month. Just give the software developers a chance.

" Alright, rant done. I'm not normally this harsh but this really bugs me. The people at Apple have put a tremendous amount of effort into making this program and building a robust foundation for the future and it seems hardly anyone can see past the next month. Just give the software developers a chance. "

That's the problem when you address a bunch of people who don't possess long-term vision. You get comments like you see on this blog.

 

[dogster]

well I agree

I am disappointed also however when the ipad was released everyone thought it was a fail and soon after that everyone was wrong so I am giving apple a little time to right this and hopefully they will do this quickly and quietly

Doug