On reflection (LOL!) its probably not the GPU but something else. My mini has the reflective dock (no reflections in the 2D dock) and is not at all choppy. I have also seen posters complain about dock choppiness on MBPs.
That is what I am thinking.
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On reflection (LOL!) its probably not the GPU but something else. My mini has the reflective dock (no reflections in the 2D dock) and is not at all choppy. I have also seen posters complain about dock choppiness on MBPs.
That is what I am thinking.
Well, for one thing, there is actually a real 10.4.11 in development, as previously mentioned in the past. So from an initial standpoint you really cannot call it a minor update, when they are already working on it, separate to Leopard.
I used to love my VIC20/C64 for ADSR sound and sprite graphics, but I have to agree - my GS was wonderful, and is still around 'just in case' (I would love to get all my old Apples running and useful again one day...)
I have 2x 512Mb PC2700 SODIMMs installed, a newer 5400rpm 100Gb H/D and I upped the spec to the 128Mb ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 card when I ordered it (since Apple appeared to be offloading more and more work to the GPU, I spent extra money on the hunch!)
It may not break any records for Photoshop work these days, but it's my main Apple until I replace it with a new MBP in January, and considering it is now 169 weeks old, it still has that sleek wow factor.
Nig.
John is a god, not the God just a god, when it comes to OS X reviews. 
And I love the fact that he never pulls any punches when it comes to slamming Apple for bone-headed choices. Case in point.
You obviously never read his Tiger review. That thing reads like War and Peace.
And I love the fact that he never pulls any punches when it comes to slamming Apple for bone-headed choices. Case in point.The review was pretty long but it gave me a really in-depth information of the new system. It was really funny and it's good to get explained stuff that I as a graphic designer would never find out or understand by myself
You obviously never read his Tiger review. That thing reads like War and Peace.
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Just one hack of code away -- surely we'll be able to change the behaviors of stacks before long.
Just one hack of code away -- surely we'll be able to change the behaviors of stacks before long.
I agree, I love Leopard in every other way but I miss having nested folders in my dock and the ability to drill down to any level by just holding the mouse. Please Apple bring this back ...
i really like the stacks, but i think that's just me... maybe because i'm new to mac, but i used folders in the dock in tiger, and still think docks are great... maybe because i don't use large folder with it... but anyway, useless or not, they're beatiful
10.5 in a word "SUCKS!"
To be honest this update is a disaster that I won't recover from anytime soon. I am one of the lucky BLUE SCREEN folks. That after rushing to the genius bar was told to do an archive and install, which was devistating.
All prefs were wiped.
All accounts were lost email/ftp/address book etc.
Access privledges totally screwed up. I have to authenticate everything.
I can't get onto any network PC including our file server.
All apps need to be reinstalled.
I would not recommend 10.5 until the 10.5.1 release. This is the biggest misfire since 10.0. Constant pop-ups that mean nothing to the average user. Hey this is like windows.
BTW the find function now relies on spotlight having to crawl your data to find anything. And you no longer have the option to select a specific volume to search. Why on earth did they feel the need to f*#k with the find function. I am currently on hold with support I'll report back.
To be honest this update is a disaster that I won't recover from anytime soon. I am one of the lucky BLUE SCREEN folks. That after rushing to the genius bar was told to do an archive and install, which was devistating.
All prefs were wiped.
All accounts were lost email/ftp/address book etc.
Access privledges totally screwed up. I have to authenticate everything.
I can't get onto any network PC including our file server.
All apps need to be reinstalled.
I would not recommend 10.5 until the 10.5.1 release. This is the biggest misfire since 10.0. Constant pop-ups that mean nothing to the average user. Hey this is like windows.
BTW the find function now relies on spotlight having to crawl your data to find anything. And you no longer have the option to select a specific volume to search. Why on earth did they feel the need to f*#k with the find function. I am currently on hold with support I'll report back.
Did you not have a bootable back up containing your old system? Erase & Install + Migration Assistant is the way to go here.
Plus, the Blue Screen Of Death is caused entirely by Unsanity's Application Enhancer and its 'haxies'.
Specifically, it's due to an old version being installed.
So, several rules of thumb were stretched somewhat:
- Avoid haxies if you possibly, really, really, can.
- APE installs stuff into /System/. Nothing should ever install stuff there. That alone should set off alarm bells
- If you want to use it anyway, for the love of $DEITY, keep it updated!
- Uninstall it before installing a whole new operating system
- If you're running something that so seriously alters the behaviour of the system, do not be at all surprised if problems happen down the road.
- Take backups regularly, especially if you're running APE and are planning an OS update.
(although this might not be entirely self-inflicted. Logitech's 'Control Center' crapware installs APE without telling the user... How polite.)
Umm archive and install wont blow away user accounts on the system... you sure you didn't do a erase and install by mistake?
Archive and install will move aside the currently install OS (/System/...) and install the new operation system while importing / maintaining the existing user accounts and their settings.
For more information... http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120
Fair enough. But then it's also fair to say Tiger was a Mercedes S class with a different color paint on every body panel.
Dont you mean a vw polo
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Nope, Apple IIGS user actually...much better OS (really Mac-like), full backwards compatibility with Apple II and a wonderful sound capability unmatched up to this very day...
Have ya ever used Workbench? What about that ridiculous Commodore mouse...there is no comparison, although games and sampling apps were great.
I assume the rolleyes is a significator for sarcasm?
I used workbench for years. Its a solid workhorse OS, which has probably crashed on me less than osX. When did you last use Workbench? Oddly enough it improved over the 10+ years Amigas were actively used. The GS was, and still does get owned by the Amigas and even ST variants that proceeded it. Don't put the Amiga with /completely/ dead architectures. "Mac-like" doesn't make something inherently better. Even Steve Jobs would agree after axing Apples legacy OS. You complaining about Amiga mice is exactly the same as people complaining about "one button" Mac mice.. there were many alternatives - and the Amiga one at least had 2 buttons to begin with. "Current" Amigas run on G4s and G3s.. How does the IIGS fare in comparison? People seem to think the Amiga stopped at the A500.. While you guys in the Mac camp were running 68040 based Macs, a lot of people were running 68040 based Amigas and loving it. With AGA(+) graphics, running around the internet, multitasking, making games and drawing in Deluxepaint. I have fond memories! Different doesn't have to equal bad. Windows guys laugh at mac guys and their "antiquated" weird hardware.. Get over it, you're no better than them, just picking on the next easy target.
There's still some stuff they've got in workbench I'd LOVE to see in later osX - if the system was without merit nobody could say that. (hmm, they've always had resolution independence for a start) - Spaces = not dissimilar to dragging screens around, something the amiga did in 1985 - very smoothly - You guys and your selective memories and feature values.
Minority systems should be united and look for strengths, not devolve into infighting fanboyism. The Amiga community was(/is?) one of the most tightly knit, creative, fun places, and I am truly proud to have been part of it. There was much less posing going on back then too. I'm sure the Mac camp was similar!
SO off topic it's not funny. At least it's tech related.. So its kind of.. maybe.. ok.. nothing to do with an Ars Technica article. XD
Back to Leopard's funky new underpinnings, in the last two days I've had 7 kernel panics, all to do with USB storage and probably Time Machine. I hadn't seen Kernel panic in years... Welcome back! Woohoo!
Dont you mean a vw polo
Wow. The Partridge Family has really fallen on hard times.
Good article.
I've been chewing my way through the Ars Technica article, and I'm impressed by the balance of the review. I've worked with so many OSs, from RSX-11 on PDP-11s to the current versions of Windows (Vista), Solaris (10), and various Leeeeeenux "distros", and OS X has come (in my mind) from an also-ran to the best UNIX desktop out there. (Solaris still takes the cake for servers.)
Apple has gotten smart and cherry-picked from the best open-source technologies out there (Like DTrace). Pretty much everything "under the hood" makes sense. It's good, it's solid, and it's fast.
Now, for those of us who are visually handicapped, the folder icons and menu bar are an issue. Ugly to say the least. But, there are already fixes in the works, and nobody bats a thousand. Overall, it's a winner.
I've been chewing my way through the Ars Technica article, and I'm impressed by the balance of the review. I've worked with so many OSs, from RSX-11 on PDP-11s to the current versions of Windows (Vista), Solaris (10), and various Leeeeeenux "distros", and OS X has come (in my mind) from an also-ran to the best UNIX desktop out there. (Solaris still takes the cake for servers.)
Apple has gotten smart and cherry-picked from the best open-source technologies out there (Like DTrace). Pretty much everything "under the hood" makes sense. It's good, it's solid, and it's fast.
Now, for those of us who are visually handicapped, the folder icons and menu bar are an issue. Ugly to say the least. But, there are already fixes in the works, and nobody bats a thousand. Overall, it's a winner.
I wonder why Apple doesn't get rid of the triangle and blue orb indicators and instead try for something really different, such as changing an icon all together when an application is opened. For example, in the resources of its contents package, have another version of a dock icon for an application, and give it a blue glow or something of the sort. This would be a much better indicator instead of a small object under the application, but make sure it isn't too flashy and becomes a distraction. Maybe even have "Active" in small letters across the opened application icon in the dock, I don't know, anything seems great other than a tiny little orb that might be difficult for some people to see. Just a thought, not a complaint, I like Leopard
This is a *great* idea. They could easily make the icons of not running apps be grey-scale and then have the colored version for running apps. A quick glance would show what's running and what's not.
As an aside, the only reason (for me) to have apps in the doc that aren't running is to ensure that they are in the same order when they are. I use spotlight to launch almost everything.
Sucks to be you. I, on the other hand, installed onto an MB Pro, an intel based iMac, and a G4 mac mini, all with zero issues. What a great life I now live!
Backup!!!!
I'm sorry, but anyone who goes out and installs a major update/upgrade to their current system WITHOUT backing up first, is sooooo asking for trouble!!
If the install goes south, at least you know everything is backed up and nothing is lost except a bit of your time. BACK UP!! You're a bonehead if you don't!!
I'm sorry, but anyone who goes out and installs a major update/upgrade to their current system WITHOUT backing up first, is sooooo asking for trouble!!
If the install goes south, at least you know everything is backed up and nothing is lost except a bit of your time. BACK UP!! You're a bonehead if you don't!!
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Powerbook Upgrades
I have installed Leopard on my G4 1.67G 17" PB and also on my nephew's 867MHz TiBook, had great results with both. I think the minimum requirements are 867MHz, if I am not mistaken......
I have installed Leopard on my G4 1.67G 17" PB and also on my nephew's 867MHz TiBook, had great results with both. I think the minimum requirements are 867MHz, if I am not mistaken......
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G4 Upgrades
My 17" 1.67G has 1.5G of ram and the 867MHz TiBook we upgraded on has 768 ram, both are working better than ever, faster and more responsive.
My 17" 1.67G has 1.5G of ram and the 867MHz TiBook we upgraded on has 768 ram, both are working better than ever, faster and more responsive.
Another positive G4 report here.
Installed it on my 1.33 12" Powerbook, 768MB of RAM, and it actually seems slightly faster
Installed it on my 1.33 12" Powerbook, 768MB of RAM, and it actually seems slightly faster