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Well i'm running Leopard on a Powerbook G4 1.6ghz with 2Gb of Ram and the machine runs faster than with Tiger on it.

However anyone intalling an OS should really think about backing up there data, no operating system is problem free even Apples Mac OS X.
 
iChat video far improved

Has anyone noticed how clear iChat video is now? If I remember correctly, didn't Jobs say that the codec used for iChat video was to be improved? It definitely has been improved.
 
Does anyone know, if Leopard can be installed on an external USB drive, so I can test it out without getting rid of Tiger on my main drive right away?
 
No doubt

Leopard isn't a service pack. But it is in dire need of a "service pack".

I can't run hardly any apps intensively without them crashing, I have plenty of RAM and an up-to-date system as well. Not just me, though. My brother, dad, friends, and girlfriend's computers have the same problems. Leopard feels like it is still in development! It definately is "polished" visually. On the other hand the underpinnings need some serious work. What kind of beta testing team do they have? :mad:
 
Leopard isn't a service pack. But it is in dire need of a "service pack".

I can't run hardly any apps intensively without them crashing, I have plenty of RAM and an up-to-date system as well. Not just me, though. My brother, dad, friends, and girlfriend's computers have the same problems. Leopard feels like it is still in development! It definately is "polished" visually. On the other hand the underpinnings need some serious work. What kind of beta testing team do they have? :mad:

Something is not right. Did you let the install check the DVD first? Are your apps Leopard ready? I haven't seen too many issues on MR of apps crashing in the last 5 days.
 
Something definately isn't right.

It seems as if Apple is now only in it for the money. I remember the feeling I used to get from them. I remember the quality they used to retain. I hope Apple doesn't drift from their cultural roots. The install DVD is fine, it's the OS itself that is the problem. I don't know if it is the fairly new INTEL architecture, but I never had these many crashes with PPC. Most people are too excited about all the new shiny features that they neglect the fact that Mac OSX is nowhere near as stable as it used to be. You can only expect that from a new architecture that needs to be recoded completely as well as operate instructions entirely differently. I am sure over time that OSX for Intel will become more stable, but for the time being this is the TRUTH. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not.













 
Most people are too excited about all the new shiny features that they neglect the fact that Mac OSX is nowhere near as stable as it used to be. You can only expect that from a new architecture that needs to be recoded completely as well as operate instructions entirely differently. I am sure over time that OSX for Intel will become more stable, but for the time being this is the TRUTH. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

Honestly, most people aren't experiencing crashes from what I have seen. Of course Apple is in it for the money, why else would they be? I can only acknowledge the reality that I see and I see a fairly stable OS so far.
 
Honestly, most people aren't experiencing crashes from what I have seen. Of course Apple is in it for the money, why else would they be? I can only acknowledge the reality that I see and I see a fairly stable OS so far.

looks like a big copy of final cut pro, but stable from my two days of uses. maybe its your computer?
 
It seems as if Apple is now only in it for the money. I remember the feeling I used to get from them. I remember the quality they used to retain. I hope Apple doesn't drift from their cultural roots. The install DVD is fine, it's the OS itself that is the problem. I don't know if it is the fairly new INTEL architecture, but I never had these many crashes with PPC. Most people are too excited about all the new shiny features that they neglect the fact that Mac OSX is nowhere near as stable as it used to be. You can only expect that from a new architecture that needs to be recoded completely as well as operate instructions entirely differently. I am sure over time that OSX for Intel will become more stable, but for the time being this is the TRUTH. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not.














Clean install or upgrade? Upgrade installs suck, so if you did one, go back and do a clean install.
 
Well...

Obviously you don't know about the counterculture of Apple and how they originally started. When Steve Jobs was starting out he wanted to create a new consciousness and change the way people think about things. Apple did this. Just think how many ways you express yourself through your computer. The Apple logo symbolized culture and they brought this into their products. As the days go by it feels like they are drifting from their original goal and aiming for the goal every other company sets out for. Apple was started to rebel from the other companies, to think different. Their commercials are starting to have less meaning as well as their products.

Honestly, most people aren't experiencing crashes from what I have seen. Of course Apple is in it for the money, why else would they be? I can only acknowledge the reality that I see and I see a fairly stable OS so far.
 
Obviously you don't know about the counterculture of Apple and how they originally started. When Steve Jobs was starting out he wanted to create a new consciousness and change the way people think about things. Apple did this. Just think how many ways you express yourself through your computer. The Apple logo symbolized culture and they brought this into their products. As the days go by it feels like they are drifting from their original goal and aiming for the goal every other company sets out for. Apple was started to rebel from the other companies, to think different. Their commercials are starting to have less meaning as well as their products.

Wow! You sure bought into their marketing. :)
 
Re:

It wasn't marketing. Do your research. ie; Read some books on how the computer was made & read some books on the history of Apple and Steve Jobs. All you new Mac people are really misinformed. Any die hard Mac fan knows.

Wow! You sure bought into their marketing. :)
 
It wasn't marketing. Do your research. ie; Read some books on how the computer was made & read some books on the history of Apple and Steve Jobs. All you new Mac people are really misinformed. Any die hard Mac fan knows.

Been using Apples since 1979. Never saw anything other than another capitalistic enterprise (but with better products). Don't believe everything you read.
 
Obviously you don't know about the counterculture of Apple and how they originally started. When Steve Jobs was starting out he wanted to create a new consciousness and change the way people think about things. Apple did this. Just think how many ways you express yourself through your computer. The Apple logo symbolized culture and they brought this into their products. As the days go by it feels like they are drifting from their original goal and aiming for the goal every other company sets out for. Apple was started to rebel from the other companies, to think different. Their commercials are starting to have less meaning as well as their products.

You've got to be kidding. Apple was started to make money selling their original Apple I computer kits.

You are ascribing pretty out there motivations to them.

Jobs certainly has wanted to change the way people use computers though, and the notion that they are not still doing that is laughable; the iPhone and its multitouch UI alone demonstrates that.

-Zadillo
 
Re:re:

Look at there current commercials and look at their think different commercials. After viewing them, argue with me that Apple hasen't changed the way they view computers. Apple hasn't always been about changing computers. It was changing the way people think and changing they way they USE the computer. As the iPhone demonstrates. I really am not good at stooping down to narrow minded people. I'm an artist, I tend to think about things differently.


You've got to be kidding. Apple was started to make money selling their original Apple I computer kits.

You are ascribing pretty out there motivations to them.

Jobs certainly has wanted to change the way people use computers though, and the notion that they are not still doing that is laughable; the iPhone and its multitouch UI alone demonstrates that.

-Zadillo
 
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