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In-Store Pickup Now Available for MacBook Pro With Touch Bar
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Apple certified repairs already replace the entire logic board instead of spending the time to trace issue and do SMC reworking. This is why Apple certified logic board repairs were already nearly as expensive as replacing the entire machine (because the logic board is a bulk of the "machine"). Now the cost will be even higher because the storage and memory get junked too... and now it appears even more components can demand logic board replacement (i.e. power button was part of the keyboard and is now part of the logic board). Don't get me wrong, I agree that perhaps Apple views this as a minimized labor move but it will be considerably more expensive and frustrating for customers. For example, fixing the power button was as simple as changing the keyboard or top case is now a total logic board replacement (and SSD and RAM).
Oh, and while commodity bluray players and some TVs are cheaper to replace than repair, high end models are certainly not. Nobody is going to repair logic boards on a POS PC they bought at Walmart. Apple likes to sell high end computers (or at least they once did)... customers will want repairs up to a point and now unfortunately that point will be easier to hit. Thus Apple is approaching a disposable model.
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Agreed; +10 years Apple user here. I find the direction Apple is taking with this long-awaited release disturbing. I bought a new laptop not out of excitement but out of need for a replacement. I can't believe I waited for this expensive inconvenient gimmick, all while Microsoft is pushing the innovation.
No, not really. People with money almost never get it because they save or are cheap. They get it because they work hard at increasing the amount they earn. It's that simple.
You get what you pay for........
Yep you sure do. what dose apple's high price ticket items get you...... front row seats to the biggest set of condescending idiots who falsely advertise the word genius. yep, for 2500 dollars you can go and be treated like crap in front of a store full of lemmings who take the "genius's word as gospel. your not to question or doubt the genius as what he or she says is what is. dont try to explain your problem, they know it all. dont question their solution, if in fact they provide you with a legitimate one, as they go and run in the corner and suck their thumbs. they are not used to tuff questions. they attempt to make an #@%$ out of you by using big words that they hope you dont understand, and if you do they slam their little computers shut and vanish, only to have another take their place who is geekier than the one before and tries to intimidate with bigger words like gigabyte, pram and ssd. when backed into a knowledge corner they grow and claw at you... and demand you come up with a solution.... but you say with a grin..."your the genius what do you suggest??". that sends them into a downward plunge the hard cider cannot fix. 2 hours later, you still have a non working machine, but youve turned a couple of genius's into diaper wearing goobers who have to go to apple counciling for 2 weeks.l
yep... you get what you pay for!!!!
Yep you sure do. what dose apple's high price ticket items get you...... front row seats to the biggest set of condescending idiots who falsely advertise the word genius. yep, for 2500 dollars you can go and be treated like crap in front of a store full of lemmings who take the "genius's word as gospel. your not to question or doubt the genius as what he or she says is what is. dont try to explain your problem, they know it all. dont question their solution, if in fact they provide you with a legitimate one, as they go and run in the corner and suck their thumbs. they are not used to tuff questions. they attempt to make an #@%$ out of you by using big words that they hope you dont understand, and if you do they slam their little computers shut and vanish, only to have another take their place who is geekier than the one before and tries to intimidate with bigger words like gigabyte, pram and ssd. when backed into a knowledge corner they grow and claw at you... and demand you come up with a solution.... but you say with a grin..."your the genius what do you suggest??". that sends them into a downward plunge the hard cider cannot fix. 2 hours later, you still have a non working machine, but youve turned a couple of genius's into diaper wearing goobers who have to go to apple counciling for 2 weeks.l
yep... you get what you pay for!!!!
Did you read the link you posted? You linked to the 15w version of the mobile processor. It's true that that would be the updated version of what's in the non-Touch Bar version of the MacBook Pro. However, the Touch Bar version of the 13 inch model uses the 28w processor, and of course the 15 inch uses a quad core. Since this article is about the Touch Bar MacBook Pros, it's accurate to say that the CPUs those models are using are still the most current available.
Same situation. And with prices up and chromebook good choice and Windows better and using laptop less slowly migrating to chromebook. Want to check out a cheap windows machine for general computing. This touchscreen just adds more work and complexity. With a fraction of users it will probably not get much support by developers. Now devs have to program with 2 sets of users in mind just for Apple laptops. My bet is that it will disappear in a few years.
Picked up my 15" 2.6 GHz rMBP with Touch Bar on Wed this week at my local Apple Store. It happened to be the last one the store had, so I was lucky.
It's fabulous and one really needs to hold this thin and light weight laptop to appreciate what Apple has delivered IMO. You have to have it in your hot little hands to appreciate it's portability. I'm getting used to the Touch Bar and strangely enough find it's quite useful. Using the Touch ID sensor for unlocking several of the Sys Pref panels is a delight (Security & Privacy does not work though.... weird). I can definitely see this Touch Bar improving my productivity.
From a price standpoint I have to mention that back in Jan 2012 I bought my Late 2011 17-inch MBP (now a dinosaur) for around $3100 (had 2.5 GHz processor, 4 GB RAM if I recall and a 7200 rpm spinner). For me, this new 15" MBP price was a no-brainer purchase and the 256 GB SSD is awfully speedy. I just needed a single Adapter for attaching to my TB2 Dock that provides all the other connections I need. I've run a few heavy duty workloads on it and the machine runs cool without any evidence of fan noise at all. The keyboard is definitely a bit 'clackey' (noisy) and would likely annoy nearby people in a Public Library environment if you're typing a lot. Mind you, I hit the keys quite hard, so for others with a lighter touch it could be less noisy. The screen definition and color gamut is a 'die for' feature for sure. I love the fact there's now no boot chime and that it auto boots when lid opened. For conferences and meeting rooms this will be very welcomed.
Tis unfortunate the SSD is soldered down as is the RAM. No matter, I can live with this at this time. Can always sell it for larger SSD model later as needed I suppose. I maintain a very skinny light-weight OS that fits into not much more than 25 GB and at most maybe 55 GB. All the other stuff is kept on my OWC TB2 ThunderBay 4 mini with RAID-0 4x SSDs inside which reads at a nice clip of around 1250 MBytes/sec. It compliments this new MBP nicely for me.
Well done Apple.
It's fabulous and one really needs to hold this thin and light weight laptop to appreciate what Apple has delivered IMO. You have to have it in your hot little hands to appreciate it's portability. I'm getting used to the Touch Bar and strangely enough find it's quite useful. Using the Touch ID sensor for unlocking several of the Sys Pref panels is a delight (Security & Privacy does not work though.... weird). I can definitely see this Touch Bar improving my productivity.
From a price standpoint I have to mention that back in Jan 2012 I bought my Late 2011 17-inch MBP (now a dinosaur) for around $3100 (had 2.5 GHz processor, 4 GB RAM if I recall and a 7200 rpm spinner). For me, this new 15" MBP price was a no-brainer purchase and the 256 GB SSD is awfully speedy. I just needed a single Adapter for attaching to my TB2 Dock that provides all the other connections I need. I've run a few heavy duty workloads on it and the machine runs cool without any evidence of fan noise at all. The keyboard is definitely a bit 'clackey' (noisy) and would likely annoy nearby people in a Public Library environment if you're typing a lot. Mind you, I hit the keys quite hard, so for others with a lighter touch it could be less noisy. The screen definition and color gamut is a 'die for' feature for sure. I love the fact there's now no boot chime and that it auto boots when lid opened. For conferences and meeting rooms this will be very welcomed.
Tis unfortunate the SSD is soldered down as is the RAM. No matter, I can live with this at this time. Can always sell it for larger SSD model later as needed I suppose. I maintain a very skinny light-weight OS that fits into not much more than 25 GB and at most maybe 55 GB. All the other stuff is kept on my OWC TB2 ThunderBay 4 mini with RAID-0 4x SSDs inside which reads at a nice clip of around 1250 MBytes/sec. It compliments this new MBP nicely for me.
Well done Apple.
Picked up my 15" 2.6 GHz rMBP with Touch Bar on Wed this week at my local Apple Store. It happened to be the last one the store had, so I was lucky.
It's fabulous and one really needs to hold this thin and light weight laptop to appreciate what Apple has delivered IMO. You have to have it in your hot little hands to appreciate it's portability. I'm getting used to the Touch Bar and strangely enough find it's quite useful. Using the Touch ID sensor for unlocking several of the Sys Pref panels is a delight (Security & Privacy does not work though.... weird). I can definitely see this Touch Bar improving my productivity.
From a price standpoint I have to mention that back in Jan 2012 I bought my Late 2011 17-inch MBP (now a dinosaur) for around $3100 (had 2.5 GHz processor, 4 GB RAM if I recall and a 7200 rpm spinner). For me, this new 15" MBP price was a no-brainer purchase and the 256 GB SSD is awfully speedy. I just needed a single Adapter for attaching to my TB2 Dock that provides all the other connections I need. I've run a few heavy duty workloads on it and the machine runs cool without any evidence of fan noise at all. The keyboard is definitely a bit 'clackey' (noisy) and would likely annoy nearby people in a Public Library environment if you're typing a lot. Mind you, I hit the keys quite hard, so for others with a lighter touch it could be less noisy. The screen definition and color gamut is a 'die for' feature for sure. I love the fact there's now no boot chime and that it auto boots when lid opened. For conferences and meeting rooms this will be very welcomed.
Tis unfortunate the SSD is soldered down as is the RAM. No matter, I can live with this at this time. Can always sell it for larger SSD model later as needed I suppose. I maintain a very skinny light-weight OS that fits into not much more than 25 GB and at most maybe 55 GB. All the other stuff is kept on my OWC TB2 ThunderBay 4 mini with RAID-0 4x SSDs inside which reads at a nice clip of around 1250 MBytes/sec. It compliments this new MBP nicely for me.
Well done Apple.
Mate you won't get any "likes" unless you complain about the ports, claim it's too thin, call the touch bar a gimmick and whine that you can't get any professional work done on "this piece of overpriced junk". :lol:
Great work sir. I've seen a lot in these forums but you win the award for the most subtle, yet savage roasting I've seen.
I received my 15" 2.9 GHz MBP today and am writing this post on it. My previous MBP was the mid-2010 model. I think this is beautiful and a significant improvement over my old laptop. It's very fast. It's so small and light compared to the 2010. The touchbar has been a non-issue. The keyboard is a non-issue (except it's a bit noisy). The absence of an SD slot is a non-issue. My Nikon D-810 uses CF cards. As for the USB-C ports, my first Mac was a 1987 Mac SE with ADB ports. I've owned enough Apple products to know that Apple changes connectors just about every time you're in the market for a new device. I have about a thousand cables of various types around the house. So do you. Big deal. If you want to buy one of these, don't be overly concerned by these niggling criticisms you've been reading.
Would be better if they had actually delivered all (or even any) of the EU orders that were made straight after the announcement before they started putting them into stores.
A lot of people saying that I have noticed around the office and other walks of life. I have to only agree. We want functionality. Power is cheaper than ever but they are trying to find ways to dress up their products in ways we don't need. Say you are a musician or a producer, you want massive bang for buck (memory, cpu) you don't need touch bars and you don't need to be told you are a victim of Brexit, it's all dressed up nonsense. Unfortunately for Apple, other brands of laptops are offering serious power for substantially less cash so it's becoming easier to switch. Products like Logic allow them to carry on with this nonsense but most people will always see sense in the end.
Same for desktops, where is the G5 powerhouse now? The Mac Pro is a joke and the Imac is not what you want for serious work, it's too self contained with a single point of failure, the box itself. It's also way too expensive because you are paying for something you don't need to. Where is the afordable power Apple? Get with the times and stop milking those that put you where you are now, it doesn't feel good to us.
You start thinking that all those anti Apple zealots over the past 2 decades had a point, and that's not something you want.
They do indeed - 'selling like hot cakes'wow - so they're magically available!
must be selling like hot cakes
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What gets me is the base 13" Pro is called the "low cost" Macbook Pro. It costs 50% more than the model it's replacing. That's not low cost. I wish I can markup things I sell 50%, and still sell them like hotcakes!
You realize the direct manufacturing costs aren't all the costs right?
There are literally 1000s of artists releasing records made with Logic on an iMac or MBP.
A 4.0GHz quad i7 not enough? Bwahaha
What's that got to do with the pickup times of the new MBPs?
Nothing.
Just another crybaby story
ROFLMAO and it begins
I'll stick with my 13" MBPr with better battery life and weighs in a 46 ounces more, better battery life, no additional adapters, function keys.
Not sure why this thread needs to be another referendum on the machine.
Has anyone found any of the high end configs in a store? I know the local stores stock the very top config of most machines, but they are never listed as available on the web. Just curious if anyone has found anything other than the base?
Has anyone found any of the high end configs in a store? I know the local stores stock the very top config of most machines, but they are never listed as available on the web. Just curious if anyone has found anything other than the base?
It was a mistake to pitch it as the replacement to the air. The true air replacement will be the MacBook, once its price drops (next year, I assume). The non-touchbar MBP is only the air's replacement insofar as they both use the 15w processor.
Apple has never really been about pure innovation. They are best at taking existing ideas and making them "just work".
For example the iPod that kicked off Apple's rise to fortune was an iteration of existing portable mp3 players like Archos at the time.
The new "gimmick" that is the touchbar was also previously done by none other than your beloved Microsoft (link is here for your amusement: https://mspoweruser.com/as-usual-mi...irst-but-actually-thought-better-of-it-video/). The point is that what you *think* Apple does is not actually what they are famous for doing.
