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In-Store Pickup Now Available for MacBook Pro With Touch Bar
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Answered my own question today. Stopped in the Baton Rouge store which showed no 15" available and left with a 2.9/16GB/430/1TB config and a bag of misc dongles.
I like macOS, but not $2500 to $3200 worth. I'll sticking to Ebay and last years or olders models for what is already a hard price to justify even used.
$700 to $1600 (Ebay link)
$700 to $1600 (Ebay link)
Yeah and thats if you need a newish one..I just bought a 2012 15" MacBook Pro 2.7 quad I7 with a 1T HHD and 16 gigs of ram..for $850 I updated the HD to a 960 gig SSD for $210 and it boots in like 25 seconds! It is crazy fast..If you look at the Everymac website the 2015 2.8 15" is only 10-20 faster.tops! So if you need the fastest and lightest go for the newest but the old macs are very very good!
I guess for some people an over-simplified view of reality isn't just a tool to provide ammunition for outrage but is in itself a necessity for feeling at ease.
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The 15" MBPs with discrete graphic card have started at $2500 fo a couple a years now. It was the retina screen and the SSD storage that drove them above the $2000 mark. And is the cost of the SSD at larger capacity that is really leaving people gasping.
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Yeah my partner has a 2012 MBP. 2.0 quad i7. Ideal as a non-portable laptop imo. Hooked up to a 4K external monitor.
Otherwise it's quite heavy as an on the go machine, and lack of Retina display is a bit of a bummer.
Wow this is so funny. How did you come up with Schill Philler? It's really so original.
Apple Staff: Welcome to Apple Store
Me: Thanks
Apple Staff: How may I help you?
Me: I want to buy a new MacBook Pro
Apple Staff: Great, do you want a 13', 15' with or without Touch Bar
Me: I want a 15" with Touch Bar
Apple Staff: Which specs do you want?
Me: I want a 15" Touch Bar with Kabylake Processor, Dedicated GPU, 1TB, 32GB, 1MagSafe USBC, 3USB C, 1USB A, 1HDMI, 1SD card, 1Headphone Jack
Apple Staff: Unfortunately, we don't have those specs
Me: You mean not available!
Apple Staff: We don't have at all, but we have a 15" Touch Bar with Skylake Processor, GPU, 1TB, 16GB, 4USBC for only $2,799.00
Me: Okay, do you want to pay with Cash, Credit Card, etc...
Apple Staff: You mean we need to pay you?
Me: Yes
Apple Staff: You are not joking right? why do we need to pay you?
Me: Because I carry your Apple Logo everywhere I go; I make advertising for your company, so you need to pay me for doing this advertisement right
Apple Staff: ummm ... .... .... .....
Me: So do you pay cash or credit? I accept credit card 18 months financial plan with no interest
Apple Staff: Let me call our CEO Tim Cook
Me: Okay, please tell Mr. Cook to bring Jony, Phil, and Craig as well
Apple Staff: Yes Sir
Me: Please tell them to stop smoking, so we can do real business
Me: Thanks
Apple Staff: How may I help you?
Me: I want to buy a new MacBook Pro
Apple Staff: Great, do you want a 13', 15' with or without Touch Bar
Me: I want a 15" with Touch Bar
Apple Staff: Which specs do you want?
Me: I want a 15" Touch Bar with Kabylake Processor, Dedicated GPU, 1TB, 32GB, 1MagSafe USBC, 3USB C, 1USB A, 1HDMI, 1SD card, 1Headphone Jack
Apple Staff: Unfortunately, we don't have those specs
Me: You mean not available!
Apple Staff: We don't have at all, but we have a 15" Touch Bar with Skylake Processor, GPU, 1TB, 16GB, 4USBC for only $2,799.00
Me: Okay, do you want to pay with Cash, Credit Card, etc...
Apple Staff: You mean we need to pay you?
Me: Yes
Apple Staff: You are not joking right? why do we need to pay you?
Me: Because I carry your Apple Logo everywhere I go; I make advertising for your company, so you need to pay me for doing this advertisement right
Apple Staff: ummm ... .... .... .....
Me: So do you pay cash or credit? I accept credit card 18 months financial plan with no interest
Apple Staff: Let me call our CEO Tim Cook
Me: Okay, please tell Mr. Cook to bring Jony, Phil, and Craig as well
Apple Staff: Yes Sir
Me: Please tell them to stop smoking, so we can do real business
Apple Staff:Which specs do you want?
Me: I want a 15" Touch Bar with Kabylake Processor, Dedicated GPU, 1TB, 32GB, 1MagSafe USBC, 3USB C, 1USB A, 1HDMI, 1SD card, 1Headphone Jack
Apple Staff: Intel hasn't released Kabylake processors suitable for the MacBook Pro. Sorry I though you were a pro who knew what he was talking about.
Me:I am. I'm a professional whiner. I don't really understand Intels realease schedule at all. I'm so entitled that I complain when I can't get things that don't even exist yet.
Apple staff: That's ok, you should complain on Macrumors. It's full of entitled whiners nowadays. Apple listens to whiners there.
Me: Really?
Apple staff: No. LOL
Me: I want a 15" Touch Bar with Kabylake Processor, Dedicated GPU, 1TB, 32GB, 1MagSafe USBC, 3USB C, 1USB A, 1HDMI, 1SD card, 1Headphone Jack
Apple Staff: Intel hasn't released Kabylake processors suitable for the MacBook Pro. Sorry I though you were a pro who knew what he was talking about.
Me:I am. I'm a professional whiner. I don't really understand Intels realease schedule at all. I'm so entitled that I complain when I can't get things that don't even exist yet.
Apple staff: That's ok, you should complain on Macrumors. It's full of entitled whiners nowadays. Apple listens to whiners there.
Me: Really?
Apple staff: No. LOL
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Still why not use them in the non touchbar? Why have a new machine after 520 days doing almost the same sucky benchmark as older ones? Simply, Jobs is dead Apple is Doomed and i have already canceled my new macbook pro after i saw the benchmarks. If they love to innovation why not do an actual design on the NEW macbookpro with the 15w processor and beat by far the old.ones? Simply they dont care, they only care about making money.
I guess the question then is - why? From what I gather, the older processors are still faster than the newer, lower voltage ones. So you would gain no benefit from using the newer processors except being able to brag that it runs the latest chips.
The new kaby lake has better performance than The old skylake on15w also runs intel optane would be decent for the 13, buts that no really the issue, the issue is that they come to call innovative something that its performance in benchmarks are not really noticeable and they start removing things to get lighter and suck in battery life, o yead did i mention they are so smart they put in the roght side tje audio jack when more than 50% of the people are right handed? What happens if you try to use a mouse and have some cords headphones? Dingnding ding ding, pure stupidity here
I have to admit I went ga-ga when I first watched the keynote on this new laptop. The Touchbar looked so sweet and of course I told myself I'm getting one for sure. Then common sense kicked in and made me realize that my early 2015 rMBP 2.7 machine still looks and runs like brand new. So why on Earth would I want to spend $1800 on something that's really not much different from what I have now? I usually don't have a problem with spending the money on new tech but at some point I need to "just say no" and be content with what I have.
And on a side note. I couldn't justify spending $1800 that doesn't even have one single USB port. I know the inevitable USB-C will overrule all existing connections but I just can't see myself adapting to that point at this time.
And on a side note. I couldn't justify spending $1800 that doesn't even have one single USB port. I know the inevitable USB-C will overrule all existing connections but I just can't see myself adapting to that point at this time.
Judging by synthetic benchmarks is pure folly. I just got the 2.9/16/1TB and it is crazy fast. I do 3D modeling and whether I am in AutoCAD MAc, or in a Fusion VM with 4 cores and 6gb dedicated to it. It blows every MBP I have owned away as well as the Dell XPS I also have. It is just about on a par with my 6 core nMP. Much of this is due to the amazing SSD in it.
Add the flexibility with just the TB3 to TB2 adapter which lets me use my LG 34" TB monitor like a Thunderbolt Display - I have it connected with the TB, then a USB3 to GBe adapter and hub and I have just the one USB-C adapter being used and just two cables connected to the MPB. Count me as a very happy new owner. Yes I've got a stack of dongles, but no more than I had before.
Add the flexibility with just the TB3 to TB2 adapter which lets me use my LG 34" TB monitor like a Thunderbolt Display - I have it connected with the TB, then a USB3 to GBe adapter and hub and I have just the one USB-C adapter being used and just two cables connected to the MPB. Count me as a very happy new owner. Yes I've got a stack of dongles, but no more than I had before.
So you are telking that your "perception of fast" is more accurate than a computer benchmark? Good for you.
Also to make you more happy, try connecting your new brand new IPhone, you will spend more time loooking for the dongle than the difference of speed in the benchmarks
Sorry, dear Trolliper, yes my measurement of fast is measured by calculation times computing complex 3D lighting simulations, not some arbitrary tests that weigh one factor or another and don't even give much weight to factors that affect daily use such as SSD speed.
BTW, I don't own an iPhone7, my 6 is doing just fine and plugs in to the MBP nicely with a USB-c to Lightning cable. And using the TB3 to TB2 dongle allows me to connect my LG TB 34" monitor with one cable and connect GigE and all my other desktop devices with one cable. Completely happy with the setup.
Yes some of us are actually pros, but don't work with A/V.
Sorry to pop your bubble, ok you are a Pro, i get it. I just want to see the benchmark on those $3,500.00 gimmicks after I upgrade my Mid 2015 SSD in a couple years for less than $300 for a twice as fast ssd and twice the storage.
The Pros who use Macbook Pros are a just a very tiny number of people, apple sold out to this brand new gimmick just for revenue. You realize actually that even the whole PRO line of apple is a total marketing thing?
Even the LG monitor is a gimmick, do you actually know that 4k technology is very old and has been around for years? Did you saw the paper thin flexible screen they just put out?
Let me show you an example of what some photography professionals used for their job,
http://www.rpimaging.com/eizo-color...y-5szztn2XVkS9Efppra4wlQNnvhrTEch4aAnzM8P8HAQ
And if you want to dig deep into more professional things try looking for a good example like PCE old known as Pro,Engineer cad software it runs on UNIX and cost thousands of dollars for each license. Do they run on Mac?
Please look at Airbus or Boeing design department do they render in Mac OSX? Do they use that LG super nice monitor that you use for show off to impress any idiot that comes to your office? Your answer is a simple NO.
They use custom made computers and don't run OSX they use high ends monitors made by IBM and many other companies that I guess you don't even know they exist, of course you prefer to call youself a pro to comfort and think making that mistake was okay.
In the best case scenario if you are a numbers guy try to figure how much money an investment of at least $800 more will return you on that HUGE DIFFERENCE GAP between the touch bar macbook pro and the mid 2015 and don't even count the new SSD could be installing in a couple years.
If you have received it you are still able to return it, since on numbers it does not make up for it. Even raid storage, come on! they are routers who are capable of doing more than 2,500mbps on transfers over the air. Hot wire communications for 60 bucks give you internet speeds for 1,000mbps. I guess you like taking the risk of storing in a SSD rather than a paid server.
But if you like it for your taste or because you have to get the latest apple equipment to show off and it works for you, thumbs up! Wish you the best of the luck.