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Increased Shut down time on 10.7 Lion
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What if you try a Safe start just for the sake of it? That way, you can determine that some features of Lion, not needed to run the System, are the ones slowing you down.
Or you could determine that it is just Lion the culprit.
As said before, a have a 2011 MBP, and boot/shut down times are fast.
Or you could determine that it is just Lion the culprit.
As said before, a have a 2011 MBP, and boot/shut down times are fast.
Nope, that's what I thought was causing the problem as well, but it doesn't seem to be because I have tried both checked and unchecked shut downs. Still the same time. Pretty sure we'll need to wait for an update.
Solution to problem!!!
Thank god! I have finally found the solution to this problem! Seems like there are old Java files floating around the system which you need to delete. I'll teach you how here.
1. Firstly, navigate to "Macintosh HD > Library" in Mac OS X Lion
2. Delete the folder named "Java" (will not cause any harm to your mac, you can easily install it again)
3. Empty Trash
4. Shut down! It should be instant, (as I said before, my late-2010 macbook air took 23 secs to shut down, now, it takes 2 seconds)
5. Boot back up, should be faster too, but shut down is much faster
6. You're done! Once you run anything Java related, Mac OS X Lion will prompt you and ask you to install the Java, press yes and install it. It won't affect your shut down time anymore because this is the brand new version. You need to take this step even if you installed the new version when you first upgraded to Lion.
I hope this helps everybody who are affected by this problem.
Give me a vote if it works!
Thank god! I have finally found the solution to this problem! Seems like there are old Java files floating around the system which you need to delete. I'll teach you how here.
1. Firstly, navigate to "Macintosh HD > Library" in Mac OS X Lion
2. Delete the folder named "Java" (will not cause any harm to your mac, you can easily install it again)
3. Empty Trash
4. Shut down! It should be instant, (as I said before, my late-2010 macbook air took 23 secs to shut down, now, it takes 2 seconds)
5. Boot back up, should be faster too, but shut down is much faster
6. You're done! Once you run anything Java related, Mac OS X Lion will prompt you and ask you to install the Java, press yes and install it. It won't affect your shut down time anymore because this is the brand new version. You need to take this step even if you installed the new version when you first upgraded to Lion.
I hope this helps everybody who are affected by this problem.
Give me a vote if it works!
Shutdown takes about 20 seconds or so on my late 2010 11" MBA ultimate. It kinda sucks even though I don't shut down that often. I'm honestly not sure how fast when it was on Snow Leopard but it wasn't this slow
My 2008 iMac has had fluctuations in shut down times since Snow Leopard. Sometimes it was nearly instantaneous, sometimes it took 20 seconds. I found repairing permissions would usually seem to make a difference. With Lion, I originally did the delta install and found my shut down times to be consistently slow. Then I did a clean install and it's made a huge difference in overall performance, as well as speeding up my shut down times to just a couple seconds.
I saw this to be the case on my "older" macbook pro (Late 2007) after upgrading to Lion. The long shutdown time.
However, I recently purchased a MacBook Pro a couple of weeks (i5 sandy bridge processor) and it doesn't seem to lag as much as the older macbook pro. It may possibly be that Apple designed Lion to work best on their newest models. Much like there release of iOS 4, which made my iPhone 3G stutter so much and slow to a crawl at times. iOS 4 was made to work better with their newer hardware.
However, I recently purchased a MacBook Pro a couple of weeks (i5 sandy bridge processor) and it doesn't seem to lag as much as the older macbook pro. It may possibly be that Apple designed Lion to work best on their newest models. Much like there release of iOS 4, which made my iPhone 3G stutter so much and slow to a crawl at times. iOS 4 was made to work better with their newer hardware.
This sounds like a power management problem. Try to reset the SMC and the NVRAM. And if possible do not jump between different OS versions on the same machine.
My mac also takes forever to shutdown (between 1 or 2 minutes). Under snow leopard it took less than a second.
Me neither. My only problem with shutdown is that my apps seem to NEED to be FORCE QUIT cus when I shutdown, they come up with the report window. I haven't bothered to uncheck the save windows box cus I rarely shutdown my macbook but I suppose I'll try it...
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Nevermind, I stand corrected. I unchecked reopen windows & its instantaneous now. Shutdown & startup is a bit faster.
Under 10.7.1 my shut down was about 3 to 4 seconds and boot up was about 39 seconds.
Under 10.7.2 my shut down took about 2 to 4 seconds and boot up about the same as before.
Of course I shut down any apps before hand. Unknown what others are doing or have done to your systems to experience longer shut downs
Under 10.7.2 my shut down took about 2 to 4 seconds and boot up about the same as before.
Of course I shut down any apps before hand. Unknown what others are doing or have done to your systems to experience longer shut downs
My Late 2008 MBP takes a LOT longer to boot and to shut down. Used to be super quick, like 1 minute for a whole reboot or less, and now it takes like 3 minutes or more, I'm not sure, but it's a huge difference and I hate it. I often need to reboot because of some bugs in Lion, such as the keyboard not working and graphical glitches that simply don't want to go away. Once these get fixed (probably in 10.7.8), I won't really need to reboot, but now it sucks.
I don't shutdown my apps. Why would you need to? Lion has been doing a good job except for the small issue I spoke about above. With my SSD, my late model 2008 macbook intel core 2 duo works like a beast. Just be sure to uncheck reopen windows.
What do you mean by "shutting down your apps"? Do you mean rebooting with "reopen windows" checked? I have tried checking it and unchecking it, and none resulted in a faster reboot.
SR45 mentioned right before your first post that he 'shut down his apps beforehand'. I didn't say that it gave me a faster boot, that is for each person to decide, but it did fix my force quit problem that I mentioned earlier. Do you read?
Shutdown-responsibility
My MBP is a 10/2011, 13 inch, i5-2,4 Ghz, Lion preinstalled.
Boot-time with Refit-Bootmenu is 45 sec.
Shutdown-time is about 20 sec with Bootcamp-partition for Win7 (NTFS) mounted and data-partition (FAT32). NTFS (read and write) is managed by OSXfuse and free NTFS-3-g. Unmounting the Bootcamp-partition manually accelerates shutdown dramatically to 2-3 sec.
So I think that OSXfuse, Macfuse or NTFS-3-g is the responsible. In fact, Macfuse is known for some problems with lion. Some users report error-messages indicating a timeout after a wait-cycle of 15 sec. Perhaps Macfuse waits too long before unmounting NTFS.
My MBP is a 10/2011, 13 inch, i5-2,4 Ghz, Lion preinstalled.
Boot-time with Refit-Bootmenu is 45 sec.
Shutdown-time is about 20 sec with Bootcamp-partition for Win7 (NTFS) mounted and data-partition (FAT32). NTFS (read and write) is managed by OSXfuse and free NTFS-3-g. Unmounting the Bootcamp-partition manually accelerates shutdown dramatically to 2-3 sec.
So I think that OSXfuse, Macfuse or NTFS-3-g is the responsible. In fact, Macfuse is known for some problems with lion. Some users report error-messages indicating a timeout after a wait-cycle of 15 sec. Perhaps Macfuse waits too long before unmounting NTFS.
Gray wheel weekend
I have shut down issues, just noticed a couple weeks ago. I left for the weekend and on Sunday night it was still at the gray wheel! Disk utility says all OK. Upgraded to Lion more than a month ago. I'm a basic user, no parallels Windows stuff. All software updated, Kaspersky full scan all clear. I have to do a hard shut down every time (unchecked reopen apps/windows). Any ideas? Are hard shut downs damaging to the hard drive?
I have shut down issues, just noticed a couple weeks ago. I left for the weekend and on Sunday night it was still at the gray wheel! Disk utility says all OK. Upgraded to Lion more than a month ago. I'm a basic user, no parallels Windows stuff. All software updated, Kaspersky full scan all clear. I have to do a hard shut down every time (unchecked reopen apps/windows). Any ideas? Are hard shut downs damaging to the hard drive?
@ pen2paper
I would load down the free program Onyx in order to check and repair the system. It never did any harm to my installations (Tiger, Snow, Lion).
I would load down the free program Onyx in order to check and repair the system. It never did any harm to my installations (Tiger, Snow, Lion).
Amazing. Thank you GerMo
Definitely yes. Thank you.
My late 2012 MBP was needing to be powered down with the main button - not a great idea from my point of view.
Even though I upgraded this morning (via Software Update) to the new Java version, the problem persisted. Until I stumbled across your solution!
None of the other ideas (such as closing all apps) changed things
I was a little worried about the irony of all this. My previous MBP (2008) was being retired, mainly because of the same problem. All the gurus (incl Apple and our Mac shop) had diagnosed a hardware problem.
I'd better go and have a look at that one now in the light of this revelation.....
Happy Easter
Thank god! I have finally found the solution to this problem! Seems like there are old Java files floating around the system which you need to delete. I'll teach you how here.
1. Firstly, navigate to "Macintosh HD > Library" in Mac OS X Lion
2. Delete the folder named "Java" (will not cause any harm to your mac, you can easily install it again)
3. Empty Trash
4. Shut down! It should be instant, (as I said before, my late-2010 macbook air took 23 secs to shut down, now, it takes 2 seconds)
5. Boot back up, should be faster too, but shut down is much faster
6. You're done! Once you run anything Java related, Mac OS X Lion will prompt you and ask you to install the Java, press yes and install it. It won't affect your shut down time anymore because this is the brand new version. You need to take this step even if you installed the new version when you first upgraded to Lion.
I hope this helps everybody who are affected by this problem.
Give me a vote if it works!
Definitely yes. Thank you.
My late 2012 MBP was needing to be powered down with the main button - not a great idea from my point of view.
Even though I upgraded this morning (via Software Update) to the new Java version, the problem persisted. Until I stumbled across your solution!
None of the other ideas (such as closing all apps) changed things
I was a little worried about the irony of all this. My previous MBP (2008) was being retired, mainly because of the same problem. All the gurus (incl Apple and our Mac shop) had diagnosed a hardware problem.
I'd better go and have a look at that one now in the light of this revelation.....
Happy Easter