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Initial Sales of Original iPhone, Droid, and Nexus One Compared

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lex750 said:
lincolntran said:
So...Are you an all knowing in all area? If not, I bet there's a time when think to yourself, "why don't they just make something that is simple and work?" Are you interested in quantum physic or art? If you're not, don't you wish they can put all those things in layman terms? ... be honest now.



Is it the general public fault when they are not that into technology? Is it a crime/fault if the general public are more into car, art, hiking, etc... other than technology? Does that make the "techies" better than the general public?
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The average person in 2010 still does not know how to program a VCR. Is it because it's rocket science? No. It's because it takes an effort to read the manual and use your brain. We have become a society that is not being challenged to learn because we have devices that "just work". Remember before the cell phone when you could remember dozens of people home and work phone numbers? We now have devices that actually remember things for us. We are actually loosing the ability to remember. Imagine were we would be if more people were actually interested in technology and advancing it, rather than staring at art, or going for a hike.
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Wow. Holy crap. No. Technology should make our lives easier - do its job and get out of the way. I probably have an unhealthy love of technology, but the last thing I want to do is give up other activities so I can spend more time learning how to program my VCR (or my phone, for that matter). More complicated for the sake of being more complicated is not a good thing.

And you have no idea whether people are losing the ability to remember. It's at least as likely that the memory space we used to used for phone numbers now stores other information we otherwise would have forgotten.
 
azazel- said:
Lets play a game. Go into any Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Target, ShopKo...hell, any store you want. Find me a PC without Windows on it. I'd further limit that, but XP is available on some netbooks.

Then try to understand why talking about "record breaking sales" should be taken with a grain of salt.

If people were buying Windows 7 solely at their choice, then you'd have a point. But much like you said earlier, people are losing the ability to think...right? So good 'ol Ruth and Cleetus, walking into Wal-Mart to get that new 'puter with the $199 sticker...they aren't making a conscious choice to get Windows 7.

You -were- the one just saying that people were getting dumber, right? ;)
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Kudos, well stated. I find that statement amusing given that a few individuals who post on MacRumors with a bias towards Microsoft use the erroneous positive correlation between "popular" and "market-share". The fact is, beige boxes and Windows are the positive correlation, the only [legal] option for PC owners is purchasing Windows - for the consumer market. All things being equal, which they're not, would be allowing consumers to operate Windows or OS X on their system as a choice. Thus, it's not a factual comparison, utilizing Windows OS and OS X to justify the "popularity" or "choice" by consumers. Microsoft sells software, Apple sells hardware and software bundled. Unless you're already a Mac user, upgrading to another OS is not a just or factual comparison.
 
ChazUK said:
The Nexus One's market has opened a little more in the US now. I wonder if it will make a difference?
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Yes, it made a difference already - just placed my order :)

Was waiting for long time for this to happen - my work phone (E71) has been dropped so many times it is not funny and I was desperately in need of a great all rounder phone on ATT.

I am sure there are many who were in similar situation based on the comments at Engadget on this story. Once it hits Verizon it should really see some significant jump in sales.
 
ChazUK said:
How much is a contractless, sim free iPhone? Over here the iPhone 3GS is £449 on O2 pay and go (simlocked to o2 too) whereas my Nexus One cost me (at todays rates) £348.57 + £60 UK Duty Tax (BOO!) which works out less than a locked iPhone on a "pay as you go" network.

An unlocked iPhone 3GS on Expansys is a staggering £799.99..... :eek: http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=183742
Far more than any phone is worth.
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Subsidized phones is how the carriers get you into an overpriced two year contract, at least here in the states. Google is attempting to change that. If there were no more contracts on cell phones then the carriers would be forced to lower their prices and stop ripping people off. Yeah it's hard to let go of $530 up front, but people don't realize that they pay OVER the full price of the phone with overpriced contracts. In the long run buying your phone upfront, contract free, will be better in lowering the price carriers charge.
 
bedifferent said:
I find that statement amusing given that a few individuals who post on MacRumors with a bias towards Microsoft use the erroneous positive correlation between "popular" and "market-share".
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Don't we go through the same when iPhone's marketshare increases e.t.c?

I will always say that sales are not indicative of quality, but unit sales/marketshare is yet another tool used when convenient to do so for those trying to tout Apple's superiority....

Why can't it work both ways?
 
parapup said:
Yes, it made a difference already - just placed my order :)

Was waiting for long time for this to happen - my work phone (E71) has been dropped so many times it is not funny and I was desperately in need of a great all rounder phone on ATT.

I am sure there are many who were in similar situation based on the comments at Engadget on this story. Once it hits Verizon it should really see some significant jump in sales.
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Why pay full price for a Nexsus One designed for ATT when you can get a New iPhone in June/July subsidized at $299? You'll be with ATT anyway for 2 years since T mobile 3G is piss/poor.
You must REALLY love the nexsus one.

Just my opinion....Nexsus one maybe slighly better than the iPhone 3GS right now but it's not enough for me to fork over extra $230. I can wait till June/july before deciding.
 
I wonder if the Droid numbers include the Verizon Buy One, Get One deal...I don't remember Apple giving away the iPhone...
 
ChazUK said:
Nexus One is now avaiable supporting on AT&T 3G frequencies.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/nexus-one-hits-for-atandt-and-rogers-3g-bands/
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The Nexus One's market has opened a little more in the US now. I wonder if it will make a difference?
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Unfortunately, no. The Nexus One's time has come and gone. If you don't make an initial huge splash in this market (especially with Apple in it), you're going to be relying on your *next* phone to make a big impact. Perhaps the Nexus Two, or whatever Google will call it.

The Nexus One is an adequate (just adequate) phone that was marketed incorrectly, and was certainly not without its problems. Not exactly the recipe for success. Perhaps Google should be pushing the Droid brand a little more . . .
 
lex750 said:
Subsidized phones is how the carriers get you into an overpriced two year contract, at least here in the states. Google is attempting to change that. If there were no more contracts on cell phones then the carriers would be forced to lower their prices and stop ripping people off. Yeah it's hard to let go of $530 up front, but people don't realize that they pay OVER the full price of the phone with overpriced contracts. In the long run buying you phone upfront, contract free, will be better in lowering the price carriers charge.
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Google can't change that by themselves. The carriers need to change that and the people must accept that. But people in general do not like UPFRONT cost regardless of it's benefits. It's like going to lease a car vs buying. Most of the time buying makes more sense but people can AFFORD the monthly payments for a better car than buying it outright.
 
DudeDad said:
I wonder if the Droid numbers include the Verizon Buy One, Get One deal...I don't remember Apple giving away the iPhone...
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The only Droid I've seen on a BOGO offer was the Droid Eris by HTC which wouldn't have been included in the sales figures as it's a completely different handset.
 
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lex750 said:
ChazUK said:
How much is a contractless, sim free iPhone? Over here the iPhone 3GS is £449 on O2 pay and go (simlocked to o2 too) whereas my Nexus One cost me (at todays rates) £348.57 + £60 UK Duty Tax (BOO!) which works out less than a locked iPhone on a "pay as you go" network.

An unlocked iPhone 3GS on Expansys is a staggering £799.99..... :eek: http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=183742
Far more than any phone is worth.
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Subsidized phones is how the carriers get you into an overpriced two year contract, at least here in the states. Google is attempting to change that. If there were no more contracts on cell phones then the carriers would be forced to lower their prices and stop ripping people off. Yeah it's hard to let go of $530 up front, but people don't realize that they pay OVER the full price of the phone with overpriced contracts. In the long run buying your phone upfront, contract free, will be better in lowering the price carriers charge.
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Yes but what *you* don't realize is that many people don't have that $530 up front, and if they put it on a credit card, the 19% interest is going to more than wipe out any savings. There's an economic meaning of "present value of money" that you don't seem to grasp, but even beyond that (which admittedly would not make up for the savings with the google model given current interest rates), many people just don't have the $500 in a lump sum, and if that's what's required, many people just won't buy.
 
ChazUK said:
The only Droid I've seen on a BOGO offer was the Droid Eris by HTC which wouldn't have been included in the sales figures as it's a completely different handset.
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I've seen a lot of Verizon commercials mentioning, "buy one smartphone and get another free, including the Motorola Droid." While showing a picture of one Droid turning into two. They've been doing that for a while now.
 
Juventuz said:
I've seen a lot of Verizon commercials mentioning, "buy one smartphone and get another free, including the Motorola Droid." While showing a picture of one Droid turning into two. They've been doing that for a while now.
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Was that in the first 74 days tho?

Juventuz said:
The Droid is available outside of the US as the Milestone. Different name, same phone.
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I would have thought that the GSM Milestone that wouldn't work on Verzion's CDMA Network would not be included in the first 74 days of Droid on Verizon sales chart....

Perhaps it's just me. :(
 
People are INTELLIGENT...

Droid is one of the FEW Android devices that can sync completely with MICROSOFT EXCHANGE (calendar specifically) and people who done their research knows that.

iPhone has done an incredible job of able to sync with multiple calendars INCLUDING EXCHANGE.

That's one of the biggest reason Nexsus One isn't selling and DROID is.
 
btcutter said:
Google can't change that by themselves. The carriers need to change that and the people must accept that. But people in general do not like UPFRONT cost regardless of it's benefits. It's like going to lease a car vs buying. Most of the time buying makes more sense but people can AFFORD the monthly payments for a better car than buying it outright.
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How can you compare a $530 phone to a $25,000 car? This is an electronic device we are talking about. Do people subsidize their laptops, HDTV, PS3, or any other electronic device or appliance? No. They might charge it to a credit card and make payments on it. The can do the same with a cell phone, no? We are just "programed" by the cell phone industry that a contract is the best for you, witch in the long run it's not. The only purpose is to lock you into a contract while waving a $99 carrot in front of your face.
 
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