I'm actually considering that option... and aftermarket drive would be cheaper... however...would that void an applecare warranty? And how easy is installing ur own hard drive? I know its only like 1 cable connection but the concern is the space in the unibody and disassembling the unibody. Is it an easy diy?
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I'm actually considering that option... and aftermarket drive would be cheaper... however...would that void an applecare warranty? And how easy is installing ur own hard drive? I know its only like 1 cable connection but the concern is the space in the unibody and disassembling the unibody. Is it an easy diy?
Well, my boss' Sony Z series had a problem (it was switching off at will). I phoned to sony's authorised service. First they wanted us to ship the machine. After I have explained to them that I know for sure the problem is the battery, we just agreed on exchanging batteries (bad to sony, new to us) via mail and that was it. So I guess it depends on country / particular person you speak to. The same applies to Apple.
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Is there a 1TB western digital 2.5" sata that will fit into my MacBook Pro Aluminium 2.4ghz?
Half the price, ~half the features
So, here's a Dell Studio 14. Note, they don't seem to make an XPS 13" anymore? Didn't look hard.
http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/note...s=19&~oid=us~en~29~laptop-studio-14z_anav_1~~
$600. Cheap. Core2Duo (slower). NO optical drive. No Bluetooth. 14" screen with "720p" resolution with 9400m NVidia. No Web cam. All the specs are basically 2 years old. Yes, it's cheap, 'cus it's old.
Yep, Apple costs a bit more, but you don't generally have to worry if it has anything. It's got most everything out of the box, for better and worse (e.g.- they don't have a $600 laptop which doesn't have half the stuff you might want).
Also, Win 7 Home can't join an AD domain. All versions of OS X can (though I know that isn't always seamless).
Anywho, some folks like Macs. Some don't. Buy what you like. My Santa Rosa MacBook is very fast with Snow Leopard and Win7. I would love a new MacBook, but can't justify it 'cus my 2.5 year old one is still plenty fast.
I'll find a way to go on...
So, here's a Dell Studio 14. Note, they don't seem to make an XPS 13" anymore? Didn't look hard.
http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/note...s=19&~oid=us~en~29~laptop-studio-14z_anav_1~~
$600. Cheap. Core2Duo (slower). NO optical drive. No Bluetooth. 14" screen with "720p" resolution with 9400m NVidia. No Web cam. All the specs are basically 2 years old. Yes, it's cheap, 'cus it's old.
Yep, Apple costs a bit more, but you don't generally have to worry if it has anything. It's got most everything out of the box, for better and worse (e.g.- they don't have a $600 laptop which doesn't have half the stuff you might want).
Also, Win 7 Home can't join an AD domain. All versions of OS X can (though I know that isn't always seamless).
Anywho, some folks like Macs. Some don't. Buy what you like. My Santa Rosa MacBook is very fast with Snow Leopard and Win7. I would love a new MacBook, but can't justify it 'cus my 2.5 year old one is still plenty fast.
I'll find a way to go on...
The fact that they use the same manufacturer doesn't mean the quality doesn't vary from laptop to laptop (or even from product to product from the same manufacturer - Toshiba certainly is capable of making higher quality laptops as well).
I'm not going to argue with you and say you're wrong about the Toshiba or its various issues - as I basically said, if you do not care about the screen, weight, thickness, etc. then go for the Toshiba. You will get the specs you care about, and if you are happy with the screen and keyboard, etc. you should be more than happy. There's no reason for you to pay a lot more.
-Zadillo
ProTip: Wait about a day until MacMall gets the new MBPs, and then order it from them. Their prices are better than Apple's, PLUS no tax which is a biggie. Even if you are qualified for an educational discount at the Apple online store, it will still be cheaper to buy it from MacMall...
You know you are still legally required to pay taxes on it, right? It's called use tax. Burden just shifts from seller to buyer. Not that it's enforced all that often, but publically declaring you are skipping a couple hundred bucks of it and telling others to do the same might not be the best idea.
In depth comparison of the new models
Just stumbled upon an in-depth comparison of the new models against the prior models. It details all the key specs in an easy-to-read table. Here's what's compared:
Model
Price
Processor Type
Processor Speed Standard
Processor Speed Optional
System Bus
Cache Shared
Hard Drive
Optional SSD
Memory (RAM) standard
Memory (RAM) max
Memory (RAM) type
Graphics
Display
Battery
Link
Just stumbled upon an in-depth comparison of the new models against the prior models. It details all the key specs in an easy-to-read table. Here's what's compared:
Model
Price
Processor Type
Processor Speed Standard
Processor Speed Optional
System Bus
Cache Shared
Hard Drive
Optional SSD
Memory (RAM) standard
Memory (RAM) max
Memory (RAM) type
Graphics
Display
Battery
Link
Save your money and get an SSD in a year or so when they're cheaper. I put a 48GB SSD in my ExpressCard slot to run OS X off of… it’s night and day compared to the internal 5400rpm 320 GB drive.
I really had hope there would be blu-ray support on this update.
Not that I don’t agree with you, but can’t you use an external drive to rip a Bluray disc into a standard movie file? There are for sure Windows utilities that do it, but I feel like I’ve seen some Mac software being developed to do this as well.
Ugh, here we go again. If you need balls to the wall performance, but don’t give a damn about weight or battery, then it sounds like you need a desktop. The amazing thing is that they’re both cheaper and faster than even the fastest notebooks.
Look, it’s obvious the MacBook Pro is not designed with only performance in mind. If the balance between portability, aesthetics, and performance doesn’t work for you, and you’re willing to use a different OS, then what’s the problem?
Just listen to yourself.
The same tired argument. Look, I could go on and on about how I’ve had more issues with the PCs I’ve owned than the Macs I’ve owned, but the truth is our anecdotal horror stories prove nothing.
Right, engineering doesn’t have anything to do with it. Build quality solely depends on the manufacturer.
Plastic is impervious to dents, bends, warps, and scratches?
1. OH MY GOD
Price for an entry 15" Macbook Pro
Us: 1.799 $
Ca: 1.849 $
Ch: 2.181 $
Uk: 2.305 $
Fr, It, De, Sp (Europe): 2.381 $
F*ck Apple ! Plus in Europe we have a lower Buying Power.
I'm definately switching to...
2. HACKINTOSH
Aka Snow Leopard on a PC with custom hardware, way cheaper and moreover, so powerful and fast !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPb8_vNJQ58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzxDAL_bwOo&feature=related
Price for an entry 15" Macbook Pro
Us: 1.799 $
Ca: 1.849 $
Ch: 2.181 $
Uk: 2.305 $
Fr, It, De, Sp (Europe): 2.381 $
F*ck Apple ! Plus in Europe we have a lower Buying Power.
I'm definately switching to...
2. HACKINTOSH
Aka Snow Leopard on a PC with custom hardware, way cheaper and moreover, so powerful and fast !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPb8_vNJQ58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzxDAL_bwOo&feature=related
And, again, what about those things? What about the screen? Apple screens are better because Apple says they're better? I hate to break the news to you, but if you look up part numbers, Apple uses the same exact screens as everyone else. Apple even took the idea of glass screens from HP.
Weight? The Toshiba doesn't even weigh as much more than the 15" MBP as a fast food cheeseburger.
Thickness is a non-issue when the system gives you much more powerful hardware and better hardware all around.
Oh and the keyboard? Yes, I do NOT like my MacBook's keyboard. I've never liked the keyboard in the years I've been using a Mac and most likely never will. I definitely prefer my HP's keyboard or my Logitech MX5500.
Yes, Apple's screens are better because Apple says they are better - that's obviously what I meant
I'm not going to go into the technical details of the different screens, but every laptop on earth doesn't use the same screens/etc. Check out most reviews of your typical Toshiba, HP, Asus, etc. laptop. Most of them are often quite critical of poor viewing angles, poor color reproduction, etc. The MBP's are generally regarded as having excellent screens in independent reviews (as are some Sony Vaio's and the HP Envy, for example). The 1366x768 15" screen on that Toshiba though is washed out with poor backlighting bleed and other issues.
But really, what are we arguing about? It's obvious what your priorities are and what is important to you... you've stated that weight and thickness are not important to you (although you seem to be extending that to argue they shouldn't be important to anyone). So what Apple is selling is not going to suit your needs.
So get that Toshiba - it sounds like it fits your needs perfectly and you should be very happy with it.
But if you're trying to argue that that Toshiba is automatically a better bet for everyone here, then that's ridiculous. Some people do care about the hardware and build differences, some people care a lot about OS X.
Yes, Apple's screens are better because Apple says they are better - that's obviously what I meant
I'm not going to go into the technical details of the different screens, but every laptop on earth doesn't use the same screens/etc. Check out most reviews of your typical Toshiba, HP, Asus, etc. laptop. Most of them are often quite critical of poor viewing angles, poor color reproduction, etc. The MBP's are generally regarded as having excellent screens in independent reviews (as are some Sony Vaio's and the HP Envy, for example). The 1366x768 15" screen on that Toshiba though is washed out with poor backlighting bleed and other issues.
But really, what are we arguing about? It's obvious what your priorities are and what is important to you... you've stated that weight and thickness are not important to you (although you seem to be extending that to argue they shouldn't be important to anyone). So what Apple is selling is not going to suit your needs.
So get that Toshiba - it sounds like it fits your needs perfectly and you should be very happy with it.
But if you're trying to argue that that Toshiba is automatically a better bet for everyone here, then that's ridiculous. Some people do care about the hardware and build differences, some people care a lot about OS X.
Man...the Apple screens are really bad. They are TN panels like any other cheap machine.
I'm sorry, but the 15.6" MBP screen is NOT as bad as the 1366x768 15.6" screen in those $900 Toshiba he's talking about. Most every independent reviewer I've seen has pointed it out as one of the top 15.6" displays on the market.
-Zadillo
So, here's a Dell Studio 14. Note, they don't seem to make an XPS 13" anymore? Didn't look hard.
http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/note...s=19&~oid=us~en~29~laptop-studio-14z_anav_1~~
$600. Cheap. Core2Duo (slower). NO optical drive. No Bluetooth. 14" screen with "720p" resolution with 9400m NVidia. No Web cam. All the specs are basically 2 years old. Yes, it's cheap, 'cus it's old.
Yep, Apple costs a bit more, but you don't generally have to worry if it has anything. It's got most everything out of the box, for better and worse (e.g.- they don't have a $600 laptop which doesn't have half the stuff you might want).
Also, Win 7 Home can't join an AD domain. All versions of OS X can (though I know that isn't always seamless).
Anywho, some folks like Macs. Some don't. Buy what you like. My Santa Rosa MacBook is very fast with Snow Leopard and Win7. I would love a new MacBook, but can't justify it 'cus my 2.5 year old one is still plenty fast.
I'll find a way to go on...
Case in Point'
Asus U30Jc
13.3"
Core ix CPU's
Nvidia optimus 310m /1gb
9.5 hr battery.....
I could go on- but you get the point.
Thats funny because the MacBook Pro uses the same exact screens as other PCs. Part numbers are EXACTLY the same.
Well, most PCs have moved on to 16x9 now. Apple is the only company stuck in the past with 16x10.
The viewing angle on my old HP notebook is no worse than my 13.3" unibody MacBook or the Mac's I saw in the Apple store last week.
What 15" screen Toshiba? I linked a 16" screen.
Oh and says who?
I've never seen a Mac of any type receive a positive review from someone who wasn't already an Apple fan. Truly independent reviews blast Macs for their lack of features and inflated prices.
People carrying notebook computers in bags. So a slight increase in thickness or taking the computer's weight back to where it used to be isn't an issue. Has everyone suddenly gotten weaker with time? People suddenly can't carry a weight that they used to be able to?
No reason for me to. Just showing that the revised MacBook Pros are Apple's most overpriced systems yet. How far can they go? Are they going to do to the Mac mini what they did to it before? No updates for 18 months? Just leave it at the current price? At the current price its terribly underspec'ed. But with this release by Apple, it shows that Apple only cares about seeing how much they can rip people off before they finally break.
What build differences? Real world experience has shown me that Apple products are built no better than anyone else. Having a shiny aluminum case isn't any better than a hard plastic case. Aluminum is a VERY soft metal. The bottom casing and top LCD cover are more likely to to bend, warp, dent, etc. than the hard plastic on the bottom of my HP.
Thats a whole other argument. I use Windows 7 and Snow Leopard. Mac OS X still has a lot of catching up to do. Especially in the video playback arena.
In that case the lower-res 15.4" has a slightly lower pixel density than the 13.3" 1280x800 MB (about 6% fewer pixels/cm^2, or 3% fewer dpi if you prefer linear dimensions), while the high-res version has a significantly higher density (about 28% more pixels/cm^2 than the MB, or 13% more dpi).
The other difference is that the gloss MBP screen has a sheet of glass in front of it, so is more reflective than the MB screen. Bothers some people, not others.
The possibility of a resolution boost was one reason I waited, so unless
have chosen a truely shocking 1680x1050 panel my choice is simple, especially as I require matte. I do feel for those who wanted the 1440x900 matte and waited for the update.Hundreds of comments... just going to add mine
What a joke Apple, you guys have clearly abandoned your notebook lineup to focus all your attention on the iPad and the iPhone. It's almost as if you don't really care about selling computers any more, you want everyone to buy your little toys.
Fine, I'll buy your toys (and I did, I own one of each...) - but in the future I won't be buying your notebook computers...
What a slap in the face to charge $1499 for a 13 inch Macbook pro and not even give it a proper Core i5 or i7 Processor. If you think for a minute that the majority of your users use your computers to play games, you're living in a pipe dream. Gamers use real gaming consoles, or a PC, or an iPad, so what the hell is the point in putting a better graphics card in the system? Oh wait, maybe openCL will use that extra processing power to make up for the lack of the Core i5/i7? WTFE.
And still, the same old 8x Superdrive that's been in your computers for years.... Get with the times, no blu-ray...
Audio over displayport? Great, but that should have been there years ago..
An extra hour of battery life, I'll give you that, very impressive, but probably not real you say 8 hours with the old battery, I only get 3 with my 13.3 even when it was brand new.
There is a REASON why I chose a 13 inch laptop, I don't want to lug the 15 inch around, but now you're basically forcing people to spend more money and lug a heavier laptop around if they want to get with the current times of processor technology.
What a joke Apple, you guys have clearly abandoned your notebook lineup to focus all your attention on the iPad and the iPhone. It's almost as if you don't really care about selling computers any more, you want everyone to buy your little toys.
Fine, I'll buy your toys (and I did, I own one of each...) - but in the future I won't be buying your notebook computers...
What a slap in the face to charge $1499 for a 13 inch Macbook pro and not even give it a proper Core i5 or i7 Processor. If you think for a minute that the majority of your users use your computers to play games, you're living in a pipe dream. Gamers use real gaming consoles, or a PC, or an iPad, so what the hell is the point in putting a better graphics card in the system? Oh wait, maybe openCL will use that extra processing power to make up for the lack of the Core i5/i7? WTFE.
And still, the same old 8x Superdrive that's been in your computers for years.... Get with the times, no blu-ray...
Audio over displayport? Great, but that should have been there years ago..
An extra hour of battery life, I'll give you that, very impressive, but probably not real you say 8 hours with the old battery, I only get 3 with my 13.3 even when it was brand new.
There is a REASON why I chose a 13 inch laptop, I don't want to lug the 15 inch around, but now you're basically forcing people to spend more money and lug a heavier laptop around if they want to get with the current times of processor technology.
I do remember mentions of rebranding Penryn processors into the Core i3 line. Thankfully Intel never went that far.
Core i3 brings 32nm, a two chip system (processor/IGP + platform controller if you choose the Intel GMA HD), and hyper threading. Apple decided to offer a superior GPU solution given the limitations of the 13" logicboard. The 2.4 GHz/2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo products will hold their own against the slower clocked Core i3 models unless it's a heavily threaded situation. It's the best solution without resorting to using the Intel GMA HD in my opinion.
All Core i3 processors are going to be Arrandale based.
Do we think these new MacBook Pro's will ship with the improved Mag Safe cables that ship with the latest MacBook?
The aluminum connector looks considerably more durable than the plastic white one. In fact, most of the plastic connectors on Apple Cables are crap - iPod/iPhone included!
The aluminum connector looks considerably more durable than the plastic white one. In fact, most of the plastic connectors on Apple Cables are crap - iPod/iPhone included!
