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Intel Admits A Chip Error - Shares Halted - is it Sandy Bridge!
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plinden
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The $300 million is just for the current quarter. Intel estimates total cost to be $700 million
From the press release - http://newsroom.intel.com/community...s-chipset-design-error-implementing-solution:
vipergts2207
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I think one or more people will soon be getting their walking papers from Intel.
Hellhammer
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AFAIK Huron River is the codename for mobile platform and in this case, the platform includes Sandy Bridge CPUs and Cougar Point chipsets. To be honest, I haven't seen Huron River codename used that much, people often just talk about Sandy Bridge as it's clearer.
Folks, it's not necessarily a problem for the upcoming MBP.
The chipset has a problem with SATA ports 2-5 / eSATA, which wouldn't be used in the MBP.
SATA port 0: HDD/SSD
SATA port 1: ODD, if anything.
That being said, a recall is a recall, so it'll be interesting to see how Apple handles it.
Let the rumor mill continue for Feb22!
The chipset has a problem with SATA ports 2-5 / eSATA, which wouldn't be used in the MBP.
SATA port 0: HDD/SSD
SATA port 1: ODD, if anything.
That being said, a recall is a recall, so it'll be interesting to see how Apple handles it.
Let the rumor mill continue for Feb22!
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zorinlynx
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THIS, friends is why Apple tends to not adopt bleeding edge technology.
People seem to be bitching and whining that Sandy Bridge-based Macs aren't available now. Well guess what, if they were, Apple would have to do a recall! Your hardware would be flakey.
It is to your benefit to not be an early adopter. Once hardware is proven, THEN manufacture millions of them.
People seem to be bitching and whining that Sandy Bridge-based Macs aren't available now. Well guess what, if they were, Apple would have to do a recall! Your hardware would be flakey.
It is to your benefit to not be an early adopter. Once hardware is proven, THEN manufacture millions of them.
Hellhammer
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Anand twitted that Intel is saying a few weeks delay for dual core SBs so it looks like mid March release for MBP at the earliest
Again, I am just glad they caught it. March, April, May, or June... better than dealing with a recall of new Apple hardware.
vipergts2207
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I may be wrong as I'm not familiar with all of the intricacies of chipsets and such, but don't the other SATA ports get used for things besides HDD and ODD? I believe express card in the original MBP was connected to a SATA port. I imagine the SD slot in the uMBP is as well.
Hellhammer
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Only HD and ODD use SATA connection in current MBPs. SD slot is connected via USB. Not 100% sure about the ExpressCard slot though
So are you seeing hope for the MacBook Pro still shipping soon?
Or do you believe it will be delayed along with the chipset fix?
Hellhammer
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I'm pretty sure Intel won't be shipping any of these defective chipsets anymore. I don't even know where someone got that it only affects 2-5 SATA ports, I'm eager to see the source for that. I wouldn't expect new MBPs before March at the earliest
ExpressCard is connected through PCI-E, not SATA.
There is no 'chipset fix' needed. If Apple has already made 50k mbps and they're sitting in a warehouse ready to go, they can still ship as long as they have reasonable assurance that the first two SATA ports don't degrade. This all assumes that the machines were designed logically in the first place and those two ports were used.
Whenever they get the "fixed" chipsets, it's just business as usual. It wouldn't have affected them.
greytmom
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Here's some more news:
http://208.65.201.194/comments.php?nid=9689
"As you might expect, the pending dual-core versions of the Sandy Bridge processors that were set to launch in about two weeks, is going to be delayed another 3-4 weeks because of the chipset issue. I know that many notebook vendors that were eager to get their latest iterations of products out in the market will be forced to wait at least another month (and also replace any produced and stored parts) ."
http://208.65.201.194/comments.php?nid=9689
"As you might expect, the pending dual-core versions of the Sandy Bridge processors that were set to launch in about two weeks, is going to be delayed another 3-4 weeks because of the chipset issue. I know that many notebook vendors that were eager to get their latest iterations of products out in the market will be forced to wait at least another month (and also replace any produced and stored parts) ."
plinden
macrumors 601
Whether or not this chipset issue directly affects ports used on the MBP, all the chipsets currently out there are being recalled and a new design moving into manufacture. Apple won't use any affected chipsets.
So, no, there's probably no hope of a new MBP before end of March or April.
plinden
macrumors 601
Some random dude (apparently a custom PC manufacturer) posted on notebookreview.com - http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/551892-intel-recall-sandy-bridge-cpus-2.html#post7112914 - and got linked to on ArsTechnica.
Which is why I'm very hesitant to get rid of my Core2Duo. It's tried and tested and proven. It's rock solid for all my work. A little underpowered, but to me, stability trumps power every single time. These kind of reports reaffirm my thinking.