I can picture the Super Bowl commercial this year: “On March 1 Intel will release RealSense ID. And you’ll see why 2021 will be like 1984.”
Ah yes, ATMs. Will you also add them to petrol pumps?
It doesn't matter if its a hash or not. In order for the device (eg. atm) to "process" it, the required data needs to be stored or transmitted from somewhere to do the comparison. Like passwords, eventually its found that a programmer made a mistake or added a backdoor where your data gets leaked. Unlike passwords, where I can use a different one and change it when it does actually get comprised, I only have one face.Same with passwords, they store a hash of it instead of the actual data. The typical issue with passwords is there's always some trash website that stores the actual password then leaks it, but if everyone were using standardized face ID tech, that'd be a lot less likely to happen. And most likely the face ID wouldn't be the only step to get into something like an ATM, just an additional layer.
I'm still not interested in this, at least not until it's much more mature, I mean like 10 years.
Lol Zen2 was a joke. Its fastest model is slower than the 8700k in gaming and that thing was released in 2017.
There is also a statistic (which I have not seen proven or disproven) that about one in a million people look so similar to you that your friends can't decide which is which. When I read it, it was accompanied by photos of a young woman convicted for shoplifting, who was identified by two security guards without any doubt, and a photo of the real shoplifter who saw her picture in the paper and fortunately decided she didn't want an innocent person to be in jail. And the two photos looked identical.1 in a million means about 8,000 people out there that can look like you.
It doesn't. When you set your face, it immediately hashes it. The central authority only stores the hash. The scanner sees your real face but immediately hashes it. It compares the hashes. If the hash is leaked, no big deal, you can re-set your face with a different salt. Not saying that's their exact method, but it has to be something along those lines.It doesn't matter if its a hash or not. In order for the device (eg. atm) to "process" it, the required data needs to be stored or transmitted from somewhere to do the comparison.
I think that's the wrong take.Intel already was implementing Realsense into windows devices for Windows Hello before Apple was.
I would not be surprised if FaceID is inherently significantly less secure for people with beards. A full beard hides the geometry of face below it. Plus a good deal of people will somewhat vary their beard regularly, if only because of irregular grooming, and FaceID might automatically allow a greater margin of error when it detects a beard.I can unlock my buddy’s iPhone with Face ID. We’re both Caucasian, in our 30s, with beards, but other than that, we don’t look anything alike. If you’re interested in stealing other people’s money if this becomes a thing, I think this will make it easier as long as you select targets who don’t look entirely different from you.
I wonder how well hashing works when the verified data is noisy (as all biometrics are to some degree).It doesn't. When you set your face, it immediately hashes it. The central authority only stores the hash. The scanner sees your real face but immediately hashes it. It compares the hashes. If the hash is leaked, no big deal, you can re-set your face with a different salt. Not saying that's their exact method, but it has to be something along those lines.
I'm guessing it would be hashed in blocks and considered a match if enough blocks match. There's lots of research on inexact hash matching, but I haven't read any.I wonder how well hashing works when the verified data is noisy (as all biometrics are to some degree).
It may be better to enter this arms race than to ignore it. Foreign governments and domestic criminals don't follow laws.Now we need more than ever laws to limit the usage of such biometric data collection!
I get that there are ways of doing it with out "storing" your actual face data. However, each company (bank, airline, pizza joint, etc) that implements such a system needs to scan your face at least once to set up and then subsequently scan it every time you use one of their devices. In a perfect world, what you mentioned can be done but unfortunately this world is full of nefarious people. If this becomes main stream and you go in for your initial face scan, how do you know what software they are using for scanning and if they are storing your face data or not? Because they tell you they're not... HA. How do you know what else they are going to use it for? Sell it to facebook so as you are walking through the mall, targeted ads magically appear on in-store screens. Like I said, You only have one face. All I am saying is be careful what you do with it. This is not for me.It doesn't. When you set your face, it immediately hashes it. The central authority only stores the hash. The scanner sees your real face but immediately hashes it. It compares the hashes. If the hash is leaked, no big deal, you can re-set your face with a different salt. Not saying that's their exact method, but it has to be something along those lines.
The jank part is this: There's nothing but hardware security (fancy term for obscurity) preventing a hacked device from grabbing your original face data when you scan it, then that likeness somehow being force fed into an ATM. But it'll be very strong hardware security. I mean, ATMs already contain large amounts of physical money that they have to prevent people from stealing.
The system described in the article would probably do the hashing on the hardware, not at all providing the original face data to the software using it. Otherwise, it'd be pretty irresponsible.I get that there are ways of doing it with out "storing" your actual face data. However, each company (bank, airline, pizza joint, etc) that implements such a system needs to scan your face at least once to set up and then subsequently scan it every time you use one of their devices. In a perfect world, what you mentioned can be done but unfortunately this world is full of nefarious people. If this becomes main stream and you go in for your initial face scan, how do you know what software they are using for scanning and if they are storing your face data or not? Because they tell you they're not... HA. How do you know what else they are going to use it for? Sell it to facebook so as you are walking through the mall, targeted ads magically appear on in-store screens. Like I said, You only have one face. All I am saying is be careful what you do with it. This is not for me.