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That's an if ...?

Sure. We don't know if the next MacBook Air is already an Apple Silicon Mac. They might do a speedbump from from the current Ice Lake Air to a Tiger Lake one. It would come with some very nice benefits — faster CPU, much faster GPU, Thunderbolt 4, Wi-Fi 6, PCIe 4 (which could mean a much faster SSD).

The performance gains don't look all that impressive.

Well, they essentially catch up, roughly, with Apple's A13. It's not a 1:1 comparison, though; they draw more power, but also require less clock.

Compared to AMD, though, these seem to be about 30% faster in single-threaded performance.

Please give me a 16" MBP with this.

The 16-inch MBP, if it does get another Intel chip, will likely get Rocket Lake-H next.

The 16-inch MBP uses 45W chips; these are 15-28W chips. Not powerful enough; not enough cores.

Tiger Lake-H (which hasn't actually been announced yet) could be an option especially if Apple wants to do a 16-inch MBP without discrete GPU again, which I'd be quite interested in. But they probably won't bother. Instead, they'll go with Rocket Lake-H, which will have similar features, but at 14nm. Much weaker integrated GPU, but more cores; possibly up to ten.

In the Business World, it's the software that matters, NOT the hardware !

Apple's custom Si Macs will very-likely establish a beachhead with Gamers & Hobbyists first !

What good is having a Mac that mostly runs iOS apps ?

Isn't that what an iPad is ?

Just because it can run iOS apps doesn't mean it "mostly runs" them.
 
Interested to see how Intel's new integrated GPU shakes out; I plan on building a little iGPU/APU-based Gaming PC soon and I'm undecided between the 4000-series Ryzen chips and what Intel has to offer since neither has hit retail yet.
 
Yeah, these sound quite impressive, but based on past performance, I’m not certain the new apple silicon won’t match or beat them.
 
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Not Tiger Lake but Alder Lake, being a big+small architecture, could be seen as the real answer to Apple Silicon


but I bet
- Apple Silicon will destroy it per watt
- macOS/iPadOS scheduler (to assign tasks to big and small cores) is better than whatever Windows will do, with a decade of head start

Too little, too late, many promises and slides this summer for Intel..
 
You lost me at 10nm
Process comparisons based on the name only make sense when comparing processes from the same vendor (i.e. Samsung, TSMC, Intel). Intel could have called this process "1nm" if they wanted to, instead they called it 10+++ (or something like this)
 
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I have a heat sink that could protect Yellowstone. Let's see your next gen k series desktop chip Intel.
 
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The GPU improvements are really impressive, the CPU side initially seems underwhelming to me. The claimed performance improvements over Ice Lake are consistent with clock increases, so again no improvements in peak single-core throughput.
Tigerlake uses a new willow cove core which has improvements before clock increases:
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For Intel, year over year this is finally a decent improvement
 
Came here to say this verbatim…
I will take a wait and see approach. Apple is going to attempt to push ARM on the Mac. They can do that no problem at the hardware level. They have dumbed down their own apps enough to run on iOS/macOS so that is not a problem either.

Its success is going to rely on NATIVE software from the likes of Adobe, Microsoft and others. The iPad versions of these apps are not going to cut it. Emulated software is not going to cut it either. It will take native App support for this push to ARM to be successful.

Then again if the cost of supporting x86/64 Mac's comes close to how much that make on Mac's and Mac revenue is a small portion of their overall revenue then maybe Apple does not care if they get native App support from those vendors. They will make more money per device sold once they control the whole Mac (no Intel) and that might make up for the loss of Mac sales due to people leaving to Windows to run Adobe CC, MS Office and other apps that do not get ported.
 
Its success is going to rely on NATIVE software from the likes of Adobe, Microsoft and others. The iPad versions of these apps are not going to cut it. Emulated software is not going to cut it either. It will take native App support for this push to ARM to be successful.

[..] people leaving to Windows to run Adobe CC, MS Office and other apps that do not get ported.

I… don't think there's any risk Adobe CC and MS Office don't get ported.

Less popular apps that haven't been updated in a while anyway, that's another question.
 
The CPU gains are not. The major gains are with the iGPU, plus TB4 support.

As for TB4, last time I looked, that promised to deliver 100% the speed of TB3!!! with 1000 elephants!!!! and sprinkles!!!!!. Which will be a big step forward /s.

Seriously, it sounded like TB4 was just Intel's certified version of the full USB4 stack (i.e. USB-C/3.1 + Thunderbolt 3-based 20/40Gbps modes) which is presumably exactly what Apple will implement on the AS Macs.
 
Intel Announces 11th-Generation Tiger Lake Chips as Apple Plans Transition to Arm-Based Apple Silicon. Interesting.
 
The all new 11th gen Intel! Built on ground-breaking 10nm technology, Intel has been painstakingly working on this technology for dozens of years, and it's finally here!

Meanwhile, the rest of industry has moved on.......
 
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