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This thing has FireWire?

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"compared to a 5-year-old PC". Why would you compare a new system to one from 5 years ago!? Shouldn't it be compared to the processors it's replacing?

Compared to the laptops that were available when I was in high school, my current MBP is a million times faster!

They're targeting dumb/captive Apple as the buyer for these chips. Only Apple can sell a 5 year old computer (at the original price mind you), then boast the new model is 50% faster. To be fair, there was a while when the new models were actually slower than the older models, but "with better battery life" as if we didn't feel ripped off having no choice but to buy Apple's only current offering. And that's the real reason Apple went on multi-year replacement cycles… so the processors could show some/any improvement. ;)
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Sadly these chips don't have hardware fixes for Spectre/Meltdown.

they weren't bugs, they were design features… the machine runs faster… you don't care if it's insecure do you?
 
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I have 12" Macbook 2016 8GB RAM 500GD SSD ( Which I just bought off ebay for $800) - I do speadsheets, check my email and listen to news or music while I work its over kill already. The power user is not going to choose a MacBook or an Air
 
"compared to a 5-year-old PC". Why would you compare a new system to one from 5 years ago!? Shouldn't it be compared to the processors it's replacing?

Compared to the laptops that were available when I was in high school, my current MBP is a million times faster!
compared to a Mac mini...?
 
I think it's because the kind of laptops these chips will be going into are targeted at people with older, lower-end machines. Not everyone buys a $2500+ laptop every 1 or 2 years, a lot of people I know and have ran into are still using MacBook Airs from several years ago.

In fact, nearly no one buys a high end laptop every 1 or 2 years. I've often thought comparing increased performance to last year's model was silly. Almost no one buying a computer this year has real world experience with last year's model as their day to day computer. So the comparison is not informative. I love the five years ago comparison.
 
5 years is a more realistic replacement cycle for the average Joe out there. I mean, who (other than hardcore MR fans) would upgrade their computer every year?

Agree. I think there's some similarity with photographers and photography forums.

Some people are on a constant quest for "the best" gear (body, lenses, accessories, etc). And that's what drives their photography. Even more than making compelling photographs. Which can be plainly seen.
 
Can someone please educate me on the die size issue Intel are having.

There MUST be more to it than just how easy one company can make one type of chip with one size of track and another company can't made a different chip with another track size.

By that I mean, ok. Everyone is saying how hopeless Intel are with their 14nm tech, whilst others are at 9 or 7 or looking to go even lower.
But it's can't just be that easy,

What I mean is. Say Samsung or TSM are doing 7nm chips.
Intel can't just send their cpu design over to either of these and say "hey guys, you can do 7nm, make us some please"

I presume they would struggle/fail just as much as Intel is if they tried it.

Can anyone educate me and everyone else here, by explaining this simply?


I think it is unlikely that you will get a perfect answer. Lots of armchair engineers gripe every time something new comes out. "it's already outdated" they will say. They all talk about how their computer has a "Hemi" and quad carburetors and "posi traction" - it's all the same dumb talk. It's all water-cooler talk. Realize that.

Know that you, and I, and all of us, don't know. Or at least "probably don't know".

This is the best answer to "educate me" that I can think of - hope it helps.
 
Because 5 years is the average replacement cycle for PCs.

My Sony laptop is 10 years old. I still use it and it still works. Can you believe it? :)

Core 2 Duo T9900 3.06 GHz with 8 GB RAM. If I could set up this machine to allow remote access with my iPad, I would probably keep it for another 5 years.
 
Yeah they'll probably just have an 11" and 13" MacBook. The 11" will be slower with less ports and the 13" will be faster with more ports like the Air.

The 11" Air has been a useless machine that is too small.

"Intel Announces 8th-Generation Whiskey Lake and Amber Lake Processors Suitable for MacBook and MacBook Air"

No, just, no.

MBA is EOL. Period.

I don't care who says there may be a new MBA, the answer is no, there will not be a new MBA.

When Apple updates the MacBook next time, the last model will stick around this time and price lowered, then they can finally phase out the MBA.

Agreed the MBA is gone.

Apple will release a new 12" MacBook and introduce a 14" MacBook. 16GB RAM max and 1TB on 12" and 2TB drive max on the 14". Retina display. Only question will be whether the TB and T2 are included. Low power chips.
 
did anyone else catch the use of the FireWire logo on the connection to the SATA 3 bus? does that mean all storage media is connected to IEEE1394b?
 
Here's our new architecture - we're going to shoot for the sky! Lets call it Sky Lake.

Uh, oh, our 10nm shrink is delayed - the boss is getting crabby. Lets call a minor revision Kaby Lake.

Oh no - 10nm isn't working - bring on the coffee so everyone can work 80 hour weeks. Lets "rearrange the deck chairs" and call it Coffee Lake.

10nm is DOA - time to start drinking. Lets call this minor change Whiskey Lake.
I sort of expect the next revision to be called Ecstasy Lake, or whatever stimulant they use to keep trying to get to 10nm.
 
Odds are that the 2018 Air won't be using these Whiskey Lake because they appeared too late in the development cycle.
 
Odds are that the 2018 Air won't be using these Whiskey Lake because they appeared too late in the development cycle.
The current rumor is Kaby Lake Refresh and I’d be really surprised if a $999 MacBook Air replacement doesn’t use a 7th gen dual-core i3-7130U.

On the other hand, Apple would have been able to get sample parts month ago, so it’s certainly possible that a MacBook Air replacement could be using these Whiskey Lake parts.
 
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I’d be really surprised if the $999 MacBook Air replacement doesn’t use a dual-core
Indeed, when contrasted with the MBP13 upsell, I think it would be a stretch to expect the general public to care about the difference between a quad-core and a better-quad-core.

If a $999 model is quad-core, then I can only assume Tim Cook has been tied to a chair somewhere.
 
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