Intel Announces Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Extreme

[SiliconAddict]

sounds really dumb in english <core to do-o> but a bit more in italian <core dueduo>... lazy intel, lazy

What else did you want them to call it? What is the sucessor to 1? Two right? Gah. You want to pick on a crappy name pick on Nintendo's next gen console....WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 

[sneaky]

Extreme is sooo 2002.

How about Uber Core Duo?

 

[AidenShaw]

Extreme is sooo 2002.

But it does follow the current "Extreme Edition" branding...it's not a "new" use of "Extreme", at least.

 

[AidenShaw]

The G naming convention is dead. End of story. close the book.

...it's time to update your avatar

 

[line]

What else did you want them to call it? What is the sucessor to 1? Two right? Gah. You want to pick on a crappy name pick on Nintendo's next gen console....WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

core duo x2
..x3, x4 so on perhaps

core 2 duo is not crappy, it's quite logical but it sounds dumb.

 

[SiliconAddict]

...it's time to update your avatar

Ahh but that is what is in my MBP

 

[AidenShaw]

Ahh but that is what is in my MBP

'til eBay in August, right?

 

[rxse7en]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/web/display/20060505150459.html


Interesting results and speculation if follow the embedded links. One statement I found interesting was "Yonah, maybe is the shortest life of all CPU history. From Q1 started and Q3 replace by T7 model, his big brother, Merom."

I haven't been as excited about waiting to buy a new Mac since the G3s and G4s first came out. I'm psyched for a Merom 'book!

B

 

[QPlot]

whatever the name is, just release it, I can't wait.

 

[Multimedia]

What Will Be The Difference Between Core 2 Duo 5000 & 7000 Series?

Actually, it will be Core 2 Duo 5000 series and Core 2 Duo 7000 series.

Conroe will be Core 2 Duo 4000 series and Core 2 Duo 6000 series (and maybe 8000 for the extreme).

What Will Be The Difference Between Core 2 Duo 5000 & 7000 Series? And what will the Core 3 Duo be and when will it begin manufacturing?

OK So it looks like the 5000 series are those processors under 2 GHz with a 2 MiB L2 cache while the 7000 series is the over 2 GHz with a 4 MiB L2 cache all running with a 667 MHz FSB.

I'll take one 17" MBP with a T7600 Core 2 Duo 2.33 GHz (4 MiB L2, 667 MHz FSB) please.

Alden: I am unfamiliar with the abbreviation "MiB". Can you tell us what that means please?

 

[^squirrel^]

What Will Be The Difference Between Core 2 Duo 5000 & 7000 Series? And what will the Core 3 Duo be and when will it begin manufacturing?

lol lets just get the Duo 2 outta the way first......

But i see the point your trying to make.

 

[AidenShaw]

What Will Be The Difference Between Core 2 Duo 5000 & 7000 Series? And what will the Core 3 Duo be and when will it begin manufacturing?

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=28&threadid=1854596

Merom
Core Duo T7600 - 2.33 GHz (4 MiB L2, 667 MHz FSB)
Core Duo T7400 - 2.16 GHz (4 MiB L2, 667 MHz FSB)
Core Duo T7200 - 2.00 GHz (4 MiB L2, 667 MHz FSB)
Core Duo T5600 - 1.83 GHz (2 MiB L2, 667 MHz FSB)
Core Duo T5500 - 1.66 GHz (2 MiB L2, 667 MHz FSB)

That's not a confirmed listing, however.

Similar info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_2_microprocessors

 

[modernpixel]

So - do I have this straight???

The base brand name of the chips is "Intel Core"

The "2" represents that it is the second generation of the "Intel Core"

And the "Duo" represents that it has two cores.

So, theoretically, if they keep with this branding scheme, the third generation of dual-core processors will be called "Intel Core 3 Duo"

But then the high end chips will be "Intel Core 2 Extreme" ... so will the Extreme's predecessor be the "Intel Core 2 Extreme 3?"

Using multiple numbers in a brand name is a really bad idea.

I think "Intel Core Duo" is a catchy name. If they need to use numbers to demarcate generations -- the number should come after "Duo" As in:

Intel Core Duo 2
Intel Core Duo 3

A simple rearranging illuminates the meaning.

I agree that "Extreme" is a terribly overused adjective. A quick trip to Thesaurus.com doesn't yield many good alternatives:

Intel Core Duo Extreme
Intel Core Duo Max
Intel Core Duo Supreme
Intel Core Duo Ultimate
Intel Core Duo Severe
Intel Core Duo Uttermost
Intel Core Duo Zenith
Intel Core Duo Infinite
Intel Core Duo Precocious
Intel Core Duo Fierce
Intel Core Duo Intense
Intel Core Duo The Unction of God

Thesaurus.com - you are of no use to us.

How about they ape Apple and just use "Intel Core Duo Pro" yay - perfect.

Joe

 

[Multimedia]

Intel Core Duo Ultra?

How about they ape Apple and just use "Intel Core Duo Pro" yay - perfect.

Intel Core Duo Gamer
Intel Core Duo 3-D
Intel Core Duo Ultra

 

[steve_hill4]

the point is that typing apple music into google, saying it on the street, looking it up in any sort of directory, the first result will be Apple Computer Inc. nowadays, rather than Apple Corps. as it used to be.

Even if Apple had never entered the music industry, I doubt many would have noticed the record label name of the Beatles unless they were from the generation that it was launched into. I like the Beatles and am a big classic rock fan, but I wouldn't have been able to tell you what their record label was without these court cases.

Different generations I guess, and I am more of a Pink Floyd fan, (Harvest).

 

[steve_hill4]

Conroe uses roughly twice the power of Merom, so it might be too hot for the iMac - unless you want a noisy fan that runs all the time.

I'm predicting that Conroe will show up in a new mini-tower/pizza-box form factor - filling the gap between the mini/iMac and the maxi-tower PM.

While I am in full agreeance that a mini tower should return to the line-up, not a pizza box though, (friend has spare LCIII that was promised to be sold onto me, but I think that design has had it's time), I would say that the iMac may also use Conroe. Think about it, the G5 was also hot and noisy, but they overcame this. I guess this may bump the price up however, but we'll see. It would be nice to see the iMac return to a desktop processor after a brief affair with Yonah.

 

[AidenShaw]

While I am in full agreeance that a mini tower should return to the line-up, not a pizza box though...

By "pizza box" I mean a horizontal system the size of home video/audio components (styled to match your DVD/TiVo as well).

The Media Centre Edition, also suitable for a desktop - give it a little stand to use if you want to mount it on edge.

 

[steve_hill4]

sorry not to be picky.. or too be picky the offical name change came with the 60x series processors the chips right before the g series. i should know this as i owned a 3000 dollar computer with 15 inch color monitor with a 150 mhz 604 powerpc chip inside. ohh and they were blazing fast. the 8500 nice expandable case. and made even better by the 86/9600 side panel access.

Well several sources point to the G3 being the last Power model to be called Macintosh rather than Mac. I may be wrong, hell I probably am as even Apple classes some in the Power Macintosh category and then calls them PowerMacs, but I do know there was a minor name change at some point in their life.

I'll stop being picky now though.

 

[steve_hill4]

By "pizza box" I mean a horizontal system the size of home video/audio components.

The Media Centre Edition, also suitable for a desktop - give it a little stand to use if you want to mount it on edge.

I know what you meant, hence my reference to the LCIII, (remember the LC was referred to as a Pizza Box).

I do see you point in the context of a Media Centre machine, but in many ways I would see this potential iMac-Mac pro filler not as a media centre, but as a machine to compete with other Wintel towers. Just as long as it is easier to upgrade than a cube and about the same price as an iMac, (if more powerful), or cheaper, (if same power), it would help sales rise.

 

[Multimedia]

Can Two 3.33 GHz Conroes Be Paired For A Mac Quad Ultra?

That Extreme Edition "Conroe" is going to to be VF Quick!!

3.3GHz, two cores, 1.3GHz FSB and 4MB L2 cache? Holy Cow Batman!!

I forget. Can two of those be paired for a Quad Mac Ultra Alden?

 

[steve_hill4]

Alden: I am unfamiliar with the abbreviation "MiB". Can you tell us what that means please?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte
1 MebiByte = 1024KiB = 1048576 Bytes, (MB means MegaByte and using SI measurements, this should be 1000000 Bytes and so MebiByte fills that gap).

 

[milo]

More interesting than the name change is the announcement that Conroe (C2D Extreme) will be socket compatible and will work in shipping Yonah motherboards.

I wonder if it will work in either the iMac or mini? I assume the biggest issues are heat and power consumption.

don't you think that apple will use it earlier? or does it take for apple longer to user them e.g. in a revision of macbook pro 17"?

Nobody knows yet. So far apple has only used one chip for the intels, and they got it out about the same time as everyone else.


I do agree that the names are a bit silly and confusing. Duo and 2 in the same name is fairly risible. At least they could have gone with Core Duo 2, sounds more like a sequel while Core 2 Duo sounds like you have two duos. And extreme is cheesy and cliché. If apple hadn't already used the core in a couple desktop machines, the more appropriate names would just be Core and Core Mobile.

 

[bretm]

I agree. Its very redundant. Translation, Core two two. Or a Two-Two Cores. Doesn't make sense. I think they could come up with a better name.

It would not mean 2 2 cores. Core 2 duo would mena the Core 2 chip in a dual configuration.

Just like Core and Core Duo. A single and dual config.

Geez if we had the G4 with a quad config everybody would be complaing about the G4 Quad. Seems the same to me Core 2 duo. Core 2 Quad (doesn't exist, but anyway)

 

[nagromme]

I assume next year we will see Core 2 Quad ? Or maybe that IS what "Extreme" will mean: 4 cores on one die.

Would it be "stupid" of me to buy a macbook (intel ibook) if it is announced during the next couple a days. I don't believe there will be Core 2 Duo/Solo in them very soon, perhaps first mid-2007. I don't care much for the extra power. If I just buy a maxed out one now, it will last a logn time. By the time the MacBooks have Core 2 Duo, the others will probably have something else.

Not stupid at all. They're great buys on fast machines. If you CAN wait, waiting always has benefits, for ANY computer product. Improvements are made (large or small) and prices come down over time. But there's ALWAYS something "better" on the horizon. People who buy Merom MacBooks will be seeing rumors of the NEXT Merom chips. So wait if you don't need something now, but if you do, go for it!

One statement I found interesting was "Yonah, maybe is the shortest life of all CPU history. From Q1 started and Q3 replace by T7 model, his big brother, Merom."

Yeah, when was the last time Macs went through two whole GENERATIONS in about half a year?

 

[bretm]

core duo x2
..x3, x4 so on perhaps

core 2 duo is not crappy, it's quite logical but it sounds dumb.

Yours is harder to say and not logical. Core Duo x2 sounds like a 4 processor machine. 2 Core Duo chips. A configuration that isn't supported and doesn't exist.