Let's hope they include the Kaby lake chips, but I'm going to mitigate my expectations on that and not get my hopes up too high.
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Intel Announces First Low-Power 'Kaby Lake' Mobile Processors
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Do you know what hardware acceleration is? Well, this is it. You take a task that's often performed and develop specific hardware to do that task insanely fast (famous example: GPUs. Your CPU will probably take a few seconds to render a single frame from a current game title. You GPU does that 60 times a second). In this case it's the decoding and encoding of h265 or VP9 or whatever else is developed in parallel. A CPU doesn't just have a register to add numbers and a register to multiply them or something like that. It's much more complex, there's a huge and growing instruction set available for software developers to take advantage of, i.e. very specific instructions to accelerate encryption or compression. That's why the transistor count in a CPU doesn't stay the same generation after generation. Making CPUs faster these days is not so much about cranking up the voltage and clock, but rather about teaching the CPUs new tricks that may not make them perform better in all benchmarks, but in specific tasks that take up a lot of CPU time with typical usage.
Despite the evidence of Intel being late with their CPUs, it's astonishing some people really think that it's all about Apple getting the oldest and cheapest processors. With nothing to back that up.
Macbooks with Kaby lake *before* Macbook Pros with Skylake is also terrific idea. haha. sounds:
Hey, MacBooks already have USB-C before every other Apple product, so who knows?
The 12" MacBook was outdated in a mere 5 months. I'm still SMH.
Looks like this will be Apple's new trend. Charge premium prices for last-generation processors.
Although, at least this wasn't as bad as the 2015 15" rMBP, which was technically outdated in a matter of weeks, which could have used the Iris Pro 6200 boost from Broadwell.
The Kaby Lake Surface Book 2 and Pro 5 are something to look forward to, at least.
Kaby Lake will grant users the power to create and edit their own 4K content with speeds up to 8x faster than a five-year-old PC.
So this is why we haven't seen upgrade for Mac Pro. They're waiting the low-power Core-U Kaby Lakes. With them the Mac Pro will scream! Like Macbook air but in a silent tube. /S
After showing off the capabilities of its new 7th Generation Core, Kaby Lake, during the Intel Developer Forum earlier in the month, Intel corporate vice president Navin Shenoy today gave more details regarding the third "optimized" member of the 14 nm chip family following Broadwell and Skylake. In today's announcement -- focused on the speed and 4K UHD support the new CPUs provide -- Intel officially unveiled its first Y-Series and U-Series processors, which could be included in future Retina MacBook and MacBook Air updates, respectively.
The new Kaby Lake processors (prepared as a mid-generation update ahead of Intel's Cannonlake processors) offer a moderate upgrade on earlier Skylake chips, with Intel focusing on the user benefits of its 7th Generation Core processors. These advantages namely include: 4K ultra-HD video streaming, 360-videos, and more intensive graphical performance for video games on smaller computers.
In addition to gaining access to 4K content from services like YouTube and Netflix, Kaby Lake will grant users the power to create and edit their own 4K content with speeds up to 8x faster than a five-year-old PC. Kaby Lake was manufactured using an upgraded version of Intel's 14-nanometer process, referred to as 14nm+, which the company claims has produced a processor with 12 percent faster productivity performance and up to 19 percent faster web performance over previous generations.
Everyday users will see these manifested in smooth app switching, even within performance-heavy apps like 4K video editing software, and basic battery life improvements. In this department, Kaby Lake will bring up to 9.5 hours of playback on 4K videos in any computer it's found in this fall. The release of Kaby Lake will mark Intel's first processor released after the company abandoned its tick-tock release cycle, where "ticks" represented shrinking chip fabrication processes and "tocks" introduced new architectures.
Kaby Lake "Y-Series" chips appropriate for MacBook
The three Kaby Lake Y-Series processors announced today are suitable upgrades for the MacBook, which was just updated to Skylake chips in April and thus is not expected to see another upgrade in the near future. The three U-Series chips could potentially make their way into future MacBook Air models, assuming graphics performance is sufficient for Apple's needs. The new U-Series chips include Intel HD "GT2" graphics, while Apple has historically preferred to use chips with relatively higher-performance "GT3" graphics in the MacBook Air.
Kaby Lake "U-Series" chips possibly appropriate for MacBook Air
Apple is rumored to be launching updated MacBook Air models as soon as October, but it is unclear whether the machines will use Skylake or these new Kaby Lake chips, as the current models continue to run on earlier Broadwell chips.
More powerful mobile Kaby Lake chips with Iris graphics and desktop chips such as those appropriate for the MacBook Pro and iMac are expected to begin debuting in January, but Intel did not release a specific timeline or specs for those families.
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I hope Apple with abandon Intel Chip on Mac series. I am confident that Apple could own fabricate a chip for their lineups and make MAC even a better machine. I don't see Intel chip give a good performance to MAC over the past few updates though, moreover Intel already shifting their tick tock strategy which obviously do not want to invent a better chips in more frequent basis like Apple did.
I hope Apple will never change their strategy as well.
[doublepost=1472576488][/doublepost]And what about the MacBook Pro?
After showing off the capabilities of its new 7th Generation Core, Kaby Lake, during the Intel Developer Forum earlier in the month, Intel corporate vice president Navin Shenoy today gave more details regarding the third "optimized" member of the 14 nm chip family following Broadwell and Skylake. In today's announcement -- focused on the speed and 4K UHD support the new CPUs provide -- Intel officially unveiled its first Y-Series and U-Series processors, which could be included in future Retina MacBook and MacBook Air updates, respectively.
The new Kaby Lake processors (prepared as a mid-generation update ahead of Intel's Cannonlake processors) offer a moderate upgrade on earlier Skylake chips, with Intel focusing on the user benefits of its 7th Generation Core processors. These advantages namely include: 4K ultra-HD video streaming, 360-videos, and more intensive graphical performance for video games on smaller computers.
In addition to gaining access to 4K content from services like YouTube and Netflix, Kaby Lake will grant users the power to create and edit their own 4K content with speeds up to 8x faster than a five-year-old PC. Kaby Lake was manufactured using an upgraded version of Intel's 14-nanometer process, referred to as 14nm+, which the company claims has produced a processor with 12 percent faster productivity performance and up to 19 percent faster web performance over previous generations.
Everyday users will see these manifested in smooth app switching, even within performance-heavy apps like 4K video editing software, and basic battery life improvements. In this department, Kaby Lake will bring up to 9.5 hours of playback on 4K videos in any computer it's found in this fall. The release of Kaby Lake will mark Intel's first processor released after the company abandoned its tick-tock release cycle, where "ticks" represented shrinking chip fabrication processes and "tocks" introduced new architectures.
Kaby Lake "Y-Series" chips appropriate for MacBook
The three Kaby Lake Y-Series processors announced today are suitable upgrades for the MacBook, which was just updated to Skylake chips in April and thus is not expected to see another upgrade in the near future. The three U-Series chips could potentially make their way into future MacBook Air models, assuming graphics performance is sufficient for Apple's needs. The new U-Series chips include Intel HD "GT2" graphics, while Apple has historically preferred to use chips with relatively higher-performance "GT3" graphics in the MacBook Air.
Kaby Lake "U-Series" chips possibly appropriate for MacBook Air
Apple is rumored to be launching updated MacBook Air models as soon as October, but it is unclear whether the machines will use Skylake or these new Kaby Lake chips, as the current models continue to run on earlier Broadwell chips.
More powerful mobile Kaby Lake chips with Iris graphics and desktop chips such as those appropriate for the MacBook Pro and iMac are expected to begin debuting in January, but Intel did not release a specific timeline or specs for those families.
Article Link: Intel Announces First Low-Power 'Kaby Lake' Mobile Processors
Can we please stop saying "as soon as October?" October isn't "soon" when discussing a product line that hasn't seen significant updates in years.
To all those who are thinking the MBP will get a Kaby Lake update next spring, go back to this time last year and read the MacRumors comments when Intel announced Skylake was coming in spring 2016.
Then watch other PC manufacturers start using them…
Then watch people waiting for Apple to include them in a MBP update… and waiting… and still waiting…
I'm a little surprised Apple didn't decide to do a Skylake update for the MBP with the current case earlier this year and just hold off for the dynamic function keys and thinner case for the Kaby Lake update next spring.
Then watch other PC manufacturers start using them…
Then watch people waiting for Apple to include them in a MBP update… and waiting… and still waiting…
I'm a little surprised Apple didn't decide to do a Skylake update for the MBP with the current case earlier this year and just hold off for the dynamic function keys and thinner case for the Kaby Lake update next spring.
Hi guys,
It is good news intel still exists there days, but milking the last cent out of "core Ix" tech is just deplorable.
They have tech over 50-60% more efficient these days, but still make this "obsolete upgrades"
They do give out the said tech to partners for future chipset and arch development "luckily"
Again, milking the cow is the plan here, current software is very much bellow hardware these days, so there is no need for better stuff, just pass it on as new and get the new cash. I agree on this perspective since if i needed to buy a PC, i would do get the latest CPU/chipset. Good job intel at that.
Again, 3nm is the word, 'till then, just milking cows and market for 3% visible improvements.
It is good news intel still exists there days, but milking the last cent out of "core Ix" tech is just deplorable.
They have tech over 50-60% more efficient these days, but still make this "obsolete upgrades"
They do give out the said tech to partners for future chipset and arch development "luckily"
Again, milking the cow is the plan here, current software is very much bellow hardware these days, so there is no need for better stuff, just pass it on as new and get the new cash. I agree on this perspective since if i needed to buy a PC, i would do get the latest CPU/chipset. Good job intel at that.
Again, 3nm is the word, 'till then, just milking cows and market for 3% visible improvements.
And who's gonna supply them with the chipset architecture? Wait, let me guess - Apple too, right? Piece of cake.
And since you probably won't find a southbridge interconnect with attached perephials that is compatible to this highly integrated, super-custom CPU (we all know that this is the Apple-way of doing things), just design your own too. It's not THAT hard really, I mean there are a handful of companies on the planet that can do that too!
Don't forget to write them some drivers and kext's for their currect operating system as well (the one that doesn't get viruses) and the other one (the one that does) - if you can make it compatible with the new CPU in the first place.
These threads are all the same and hilarious. There are 2 camps:
"zOMG Skylake MBP's will be out of date when they are released" or "WTF Apple hurry and release the new MBPs already".
Apple is at the mercy of Intel's schedule and get this, 99.99% of the mac users could give a two ***** if their computer has kabylake or skylake, nor would they know the difference.
"zOMG Skylake MBP's will be out of date when they are released" or "WTF Apple hurry and release the new MBPs already".
Apple is at the mercy of Intel's schedule and get this, 99.99% of the mac users could give a two ***** if their computer has kabylake or skylake, nor would they know the difference.
Hardware acceleration would be amazing on laptops which run super hot while playing/decoding videos. Unfortunately, they are already targeting a codec that will be outdated by next year (see AV1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_for_Open_Media
Skylake has been out for a year. How is Apple at the mercy of Intel's schedule?
And you think it's okay for Apple to continue to sell computers with 2013 Haswell chips in 2016 because you believe people don't care or know the difference? What reason is there for Apple to continue selling 2013 hardware at 2013 prices when everyone else has been on 2015 hardware for a year and will transition to 2016 within a few weeks?