Intel Announces First Low-Power 'Kaby Lake' Mobile Processors

[deconstruct60]

What happened to the Apple that used to get Intel's chips BEFORE anyone else?

That "BEFORE" everyone was more reality distortion field than reality. What is missing now is more so that RDF.

Apple could roll out a Mac Pro on early pre-release, production ramp up volumes. There are series 7 (Kaby Lake) systems coming which have been in production before Intel made this announcement.). At this point the major vendors have enough to sell. It was easier for Apple to roll out early in the workstation market than for their major competitors (and hasn't really happened again since that one time).

The others have largely been around the same time. If anything arrived incrementally earlier look at the volume at roll out.
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Lol so your whole point is that the A series will remain static.

No. The whole point is that Apple's A series are dedicated to different products. Inside of those products they are not static. But one reason they are ahead in that set of products is largely because they don't spend time on other things.
For example, they didn't do 64 bit to break into server market. They did 64 to get to more efficient instruction set for what they were trying to do ( of largely single application at a time context. )

 

[pkissel]

I'd be happy to wait for a MBP refresh in Q1/2017 if it included Kaby Lake. We've waited all of these years for a large refresh so what's a little more time. My Mid 2012 MBP is still plugging along very well. Apple might not be on the cutting edge in notebook features right now but at least my notebook has given be over 4 great years of service with super OS support. Even with the "deluxe" price tag I paid I'm very happy with my MBP. Thanks Apple!

 

[9081094]

I don't mind what's in... Just want to see something good and new. I'm getting Apple fatigue lately. Same old, same old but totally expensive.

 

[headcartoon]

Please, Apple, delay the Macs a little bit but put Kaby Lake in them. Please!

Or use AMD they are snappier and we know how doggy iPhoto is to start AMD can fire that hog faster than any intel.

 

[Ajrmatt]

Ok, what the heck. Anyone else having this video activate Siri?? Go to 37 seconds and play it. Happening to my iPad Pro 9.7"'s Siri.

 

[coolfactor]

15x improvement in "4K UHD usage"

First of all, that statement makes no sense. Secondly, they should be fined for making such bogus claims. 15% is more likely.

Likely, it means that the processor can do 15x more 4K processing per cycle as the previous generation, or decoding 4K streams 15x more quickly. That's reasonable.

However, the focus on 4K processing is a bit bizarre. I guess they needed to describe the improvements in terms that the average consumer might relate to, since 4K video is the latest "thing".

 

[512K Fat Mac]

What kind of name is Kaby Lake?

I believe it is Anishinaabemowin.

 

[Appleaker]

I guess I may be right with what I said:

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...se-i5-and-i7-processor.1988987/#post-23301417

 

[9081094]

Likely, it means that the processor can do 15x more 4K processing per cycle as the previous generation, or decoding 4K streams 15x more quickly. That's reasonable.

However, the focus on 4K processing is a bit bizarre. I guess they needed to describe the improvements in terms that the average consumer might relate to, since 4K video is the latest "thing".

You can't have enough power in your computer. Future software like 4K and VR will be common technology sooner then you think. If it's more energy efficient and powerful I would say 'bring it on'. But since it's Apple who has to implement it and seeing the pace to bring products to market... 2017 is a safer bet. They'll sell it when Intel lowers the prices to get more profit from it.

 

[autrefois]

Despite the evidence of Intel being late with their CPUs, it's astonishing some people really think that it's all about Apple getting the oldest and cheapest processors. With nothing to back that up.

So what would be the response, then, to the fact that other companies now seem to be able to adopt newer processors months or years before Apple?

 

[fastasleep]

So what would be the response, then, to the fact that other companies now seem to be able to adopt newer processors months or years before Apple?

There are no other shipping products using the Skylake chips expected to land in the next 15" MBP aside from Intel's own very recent Skull Canyon NUC. Who else is shipping laptops with the Skylake 6770/80/90-HQ with Iris Pro 580? And these were announced in January with none seen in the wild until just this past month.

Everyone here seems to think all the Skylake chips came out on the same day. You realize the Xeon Skylakes won't even be out til next year? Same thing with Kaby Lake - low power chips now, desktop and other mobile variants will come at different times all across 2017, Xeons after that, lather rinse repeat.

So we can stop with the unrelated Kaby Lake chips coming out now having anything at all to do with MacBook Pros coming out with chips from the previous family that have barely seen the light of day thus far. They're not year old chips.

 

[9081094]

There are no other shipping products using the Skylake chips expected to land in the next 15" MBP aside from Intel's own very recent Skull Canyon NUC. Who else is shipping laptops with the Skylake 6770/80/90-HQ with Iris Pro 580? And these were announced in January with none seen in the wild until just this past month.

Everyone here seems to think all the Skylake chips came out on the same day. You realize the Xeon Skylakes won't even be out til next year? Same thing with Kaby Lake - low power chips now, desktop and other mobile variants will come at different times all across 2017, Xeons after that, lather rinse repeat.

So we can stop with the unrelated Kaby Lake chips coming out now having anything at all to do with MacBook Pros coming out with chips from the previous family that have barely seen the light of day thus far. They're not year old chips.

MacBook Pro is 4+ years old as much as the rest of Apple computers.

 

[rp2011]

That "BEFORE" everyone was more reality distortion field than reality. What is missing now is more so that RDF.

Apple could roll out a Mac Pro on early pre-release, production ramp up volumes. There are series 7 (Kaby Lake) systems coming which have been in production before Intel made this announcement.). At this point the major vendors have enough to sell. It was easier for Apple to roll out early in the workstation market than for their major competitors (and hasn't really happened again since that one time).

The others have largely been around the same time. If anything arrived incrementally earlier look at the volume at roll out.
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No. The whole point is that Apple's A series are dedicated to different products. Inside of those products they are not static. But one reason they are ahead in that set of products is largely because they don't spend time on other things.
For example, they didn't do 64 bit to break into server market. They did 64 to get to more efficient instruction set for what they were trying to do ( of largely single application at a time context. )

And you think that will remain static whereas they could include whatever they need to make it applicable to not just Macs, but the future of mobile devices. Truth is they have to advance the A series. especially as has been said by Intel that they are marginalilzing their X86 development.

 

[Domen151]

m3, i5 and i7? That's some pretty weird naming. Especially since they were called m5 and m7 last generation.

It looks like they've ditched the m5 and m7 entirely, since they didn't offer any real performance advantages over the m3. Now it seems we're getting a fanless m3 solely, with the next jump up being to the higher powered i5s and i7s.

Or they just changed the name of m5 and m7 to i5 and i7, so they would seem more powerful to people who don’t know much about processors. At least thats what I think

 

[Renzatic]

Or they just changed the name of m5 and m7 to i5 and i7, so they would seem more powerful to people who don’t know much about processors. At least thats what I think

If that were the case, they probably would've called them ZoomPower69's.

 

[Feenician]

MacBook Pro is 4+ years old as much as the rest of Apple computers.

And? That's 4 years where chips that were significantly faster than the ones they ship did not exist.

There are no other shipping products using the Skylake chips expected to land in the next 15" MBP aside from Intel's own very recent Skull Canyon NUC. Who else is shipping laptops with the Skylake 6770/80/90-HQ with Iris Pro 580? And these were announced in January with none seen in the wild until just this past month.

Everyone here seems to think all the Skylake chips came out on the same day. You realize the Xeon Skylakes won't even be out til next year? Same thing with Kaby Lake - low power chips now, desktop and other mobile variants will come at different times all across 2017, Xeons after that, lather rinse repeat.

So we can stop with the unrelated Kaby Lake chips coming out now having anything at all to do with MacBook Pros coming out with chips from the previous family that have barely seen the light of day thus far. They're not year old chips.

Too much sense in this post for the Macrumors forum.

 

[ssgbryan]

I still don't get why Macs aren't 100% on ARM by now.

I take it you weren't around when Apple hardware was on the PowerPC platform.

Because software houses wouldn't make ARM versions of their software.

 

[MacNeto]

 

[fastasleep]

MacBook Pro is 4+ years old as much as the rest of Apple computers.

Not true.

 

[ghost187]

If they actually update the MBA, they could put the Kaby Lake i7-7500U into it while the MBP gets a more powerful Skylake processor. Then in the spring, a Kaby Lake refresh and maybe a few minor modifications if Apple realizes just like with iPhone 6, it might be prudent to do so.
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Yeah, and because it's a little bigger, maybe it will get the more powerful Kaby Lake-U processors, including the i7-7500U (and one more USB-C port of course).

If more powerful means putting back a fan, I wouldn't even want that. I have the retina macbook currently and the screen is just a bit too cramped which I manage, but the battery life is far worse than the 13 inch MBA.

 

[ThaRuler]

Wake me when they put cannonlake on macs

 

[rp2011]

As the year comes to a close, it seems Apple has made a concerted effort not to waste engineering talent on refreshes.
2016 was all about Apple products in development behind the scenes.

There has been no major Apple product released this year that is not a new product but a barely updated one. Next week's iPhone 7 and watch for example. Whatever they are working on is not quite ready.

So expect to be blown away next year or so when all the products in development come to fruition.
We know next year's iPhone will be monumental, we get hints of major iPad improvements, major watch redesign, and I wouldn't doubt that next year is when the Mac blows everyone away with whatever Apple has up its sleeve.

 

[Mal67]

I don't mind what's in... Just want to see something good and new. I'm getting Apple fatigue lately. Same old, same old but totally expensive.

I know what you mean but I find for me the fatigue comes especially from looking for/ waiting for Mac products/announcements but only ever hearing about iPhone and iPad. Great if your interested in Ios etc but not so if you're following their computers. Especially when you see other manufactures moving on.

 

[fastasleep]

As the year comes to a close, it seems Apple has made a concerted effort not to waste engineering talent on refreshes.
2016 was all about Apple products in development behind the scenes.

There has been no major Apple product released this year that is not a new product but a barely updated one. Next week's iPhone 7 and watch for example. Whatever they are working on is not quite ready.

So expect to be blown away next year or so when all the products in development come to fruition.
We know next year's iPhone will be monumental, we get hints of major iPad improvements, major watch redesign, and I wouldn't doubt that next year is when the Mac blows everyone away with whatever Apple has up its sleeve.

Exactly. Apple plays the long game while people in these forums act like their engineers and designers are sitting on their thumbs doing absolutely nothing all day and Tim Cook tries to find new countries to hide money in and that's why they don't have a particular Mac they've made up in their head on their own imaginary schedule.

 

[Suprimir]

On the video at 1:30 it's that an iPad Pro? Next iPad with Intel Processors??