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Intel Announces Thunderbolt 3 With USB-C, Single-Cable Support for Dual 4K Displays at 60Hz
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Honestly this is kind of confusing to me. I don't fully understand what is referencing the port and what is referencing the connection protocol. Will we start discussing cables in the future by saying "It's a Thunderbolt cable with a USB-C plug"? That's one thing to make it more difficult for consumers to adopt and understand at the mass level.
Having more flexible options for a port? Yes please. 5 ports down to 3? No thanks. I'm short of ports as it is on my rMBP.
I agree, but with apple's desire to make everything thinner, the lack of ports maybe the cost for the thinner machines.
Nice specs. Would have liked to see DP1.3 included, though.
I can see some consumer confusion going forward with USB-C, TB3, and DP1.3, especially when they all have similar specs and connectors.
Intel should just turn over TB to VESA, and have them merge all 3 into 1 standard.
I can see some consumer confusion going forward with USB-C, TB3, and DP1.3, especially when they all have similar specs and connectors.
Intel should just turn over TB to VESA, and have them merge all 3 into 1 standard.
I personally don't see what would be confusing.
Apple just needs to print thunderbolt/usb symbols above each port that is Thunderbolt 3, otherwise you would just have the usb symbol above the port on plain usb c machines.
Also, your normal consumers aren't going to be seeking out Thunderbolt devices anyways, and I'm sure usb c has confused the snot out of the average user with the port size change.
Professionals who need Thunderbolt will be/should be up with the latest technology, and should welcome the change to a omni port spec.
Apple just needs to print thunderbolt/usb symbols above each port that is Thunderbolt 3, otherwise you would just have the usb symbol above the port on plain usb c machines.
Also, your normal consumers aren't going to be seeking out Thunderbolt devices anyways, and I'm sure usb c has confused the snot out of the average user with the port size change.
Professionals who need Thunderbolt will be/should be up with the latest technology, and should welcome the change to a omni port spec.
I've already made a thread about this in the MacBookPro forum, so do post there in regards to how type c will affect future MacBookPro
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1-port-to-rule-them-all.1888641/#post-21390876
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1-port-to-rule-them-all.1888641/#post-21390876
Why sorry, again, they are using them NOW to make money and do work NOW, if it helps them do it better than the 2013 model they had (like me) then its perfect, every day is a help up until when the new one comes and i'll sell it, buy the new model (which will be a minimum of 8 months away at very best, probably not announced at all till 2016) and it'll probably work out at less than £2 a week to use.
So, if the next Macbook Pro has multiple USB-C ports, which one do you use for power? Any of them? Or will one of them be labeled as the one to use for plugging the power adapter into? Will be interesting to see how Apple handles that, as it seems like that could be a source of confusion for people. (though I do like the idea of a unified cable type for everything)
... or will they only include one USB-C port and force you to use adapters just like the Macbook. (ugh)
... or will they only include one USB-C port and force you to use adapters just like the Macbook. (ugh)
Well, first of all nobody's going to buy last years tech when this years tech is only 100-300 more. And in any case you would lose money because of depreciation. There has been never been a spec bump that earns itself back in a year.
And since we're moving into a new standard all stuff before TB3 is going to take a nosedive in value.
There's different ways to look at it.
You could also say that if you would've kept your old tech you would've have made more of a profit by squeezing more money out of it instead of upgrading and then having to sell at a loss later.
But hey, just enjoy your laptop.
It's unlikely after the 12" Macbook they'll release anything with a UBC-C port that isn't Thunderbolt 3 and USB 3.1 in one to be honest.
It will, as was already addressed on pg2, and judging from other comments, it's already breeding confusion. Anytime you have two cable standards piggybacking off of the same connector type, you're asking for confusion.
You can avoid all of the hassle of labeling etc by just merging all 3 standards and dropping the price of TB.
Almost certainly. Thunderbolt 3 and 2 are both backwards compatible with 1 - so there should be a USB-C Connection to DisplayPort Connection Type adapter (note connection type used, not bus protocol)
Why not just use ethernet for data transfer if you already have everything networked together? Gigabit CAT 6 & Cat5e is still faster than this, no?
Well, this is starting to make sense. so USB-C will be a standard and we can expect it across all of the Mac lines soon. It would be great to move the iOS devices to this as well so that I can carry one cord to charge everything instead of the various required now.
Nonsense, all Apple computers are resellable thats one of the main points thats one of the main things that Apple haters fail to point out when arguing about price. My 2013 Macbook is still worth £1200 minimum!
I won't be really losing any money - don't forget there will be a bunch of the usual bores that crop up when the redesign with USB-C ports come out say "don't buy gen 1 of a redesign always buy gen 2" - i'm surprised anyone buys anything on here, there always waiting 8 months for the next thing that'll supersede it. Buy and enjoy, you only live once, stop wasting your life waiting for the next better thing cos its always MONTHS away around the corner, at which point you might be dead.
No where near, its "Gigabit" as the name suggests. Thunderbolt 1 is 10gigabit, Thunderbolt 2 20... It enables me to copy from one Mac to another at faster than the the SSD's can even operate inside them (Thunderbolt 2 to 2 allows me to max out the new Samsung SSDs in the 13" and 15" machines in target disk mode...impossible with USB 3.1, 3, or any other connection type, by a long way)
Surely if TB was ubiquitous it would be cheap(er)? The industry has moulded itself deliberately like this to make more money from the consumer. What would be the price per unit, (logic board/chipset etc), if both consumer and pro devices used TB?