I wonder...will the iPhone update this fall include USB-C instead of lightning connector, they are about the same size connection?
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Intel Announces Thunderbolt 3 With USB-C, Single-Cable Support for Dual 4K Displays at 60Hz
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Fingers crossed that they still put normal USB ports on the Pro (along with MagSafe and HDMI and a Cardreader....) They're fine to replace the thunderbolt ports with this though.
Ha! Just checked the UK Apple store. So let me see if I got this right.
You want to sell you 2013 13" MPB at 1200 pounds when I can buy the midrange 2015 13" MBP for 1200 pounds at the Apple Store?
I'll hire you if you can make that sale.
Well, and I assume similar to Apple's approach to USB 2.0 and 3.0, all their USB-C ports will also be thunderbolt ports. I don't expect Apple to follow other manufacturers when they color code or label seemingly identical ports.
I see no reason to drop magsafe on the MacBook Pros. Apple won't be able to make them too thin for the port with the current heat and battery constraints so changing it now would be changing for the sake of change.
That is what I'm thinking. Though with this port Apple could make the MacBook Pro Retina even thinner now! :O
I hope can support 5K displays. I look forward to see at some point a stand alone TB display like the iMac 5k.
My guess is that when they make the MacBook mainstream it will get the Thunderbolt 3 port. For now it's a niche product released slightly ahead of its time (like the first MacBook Air).
Let the dongle-ception begin... again (like when USB 1.0 made the rounds). I know at the least I will be seeing teachers I know plugging a MiniDisplay to VGA, into a USB-C(TB3) to MiniDisplay, because VGA is what the physical cable runs in the bloody walls of schools are. Sure eventually there may be USB-C to VGA adapters, but for at least a few years it's going to be dongles into dongles.
The article says DisplayPort 1.2 but 1.3 is the current new thing. Two steps forward on one front and no steps forward on another. Why?
It's nice to see Thunderbolt and USB coming together in one form factor. This will improve overall usage of ports on a device. I've spent too much time deciding between USB and Thunderbolt for drives, that I just went with the cheaper USB.
I think the next MBP design will only have USB C. A dedicated USB A, HDMI, and Thunderbolt 2 are all pretty much obsolete.
4-5 USB C ports, sd reader, headphone, and maybe a magsafe.
Sounds like a perfect engineering solution.
As to end users (regular people) they will be confused as hell.
Why? One of the reasons we use different connectors is to distinguish between what can be hooked up to them. Thunderbolt has one style connector -- and lots of expensive adapters for everything else -- and USB has another one (USB-C).
High end Macs will eventually support Thunderbolt devices with USB-C adapters -- the reverse of how you use Thunderbolt now (Thunderbolt port + adapters for USB, FW, etc). Eventually new Thunderbolt devices will just have USB-C ports. Makes sense? It does for everyone except those people who will try to hook USB-C port Thunderbolt devices to plain old USB with USB-C ports. Will Thunderbolt devices work on USB chains that are hooked together with USB-C connectors? Sure -- they will.... Until you actually try it. And there will be way more USB chains because they are cheap using USB-C port than Thunderbolt devices with USB-C ports.
Brilliant in some ways...less so if you are one of the lucky few to actually use Thunderbolt devices like a display on one of these future Macs. Apple has complicated it by releasing Macs with non-Thunderbolt USB-C ports....some USB-C ports will be USB, some will be Thunderbolt. Fortunately those will be more high end buyers and they can always call an Apple Genius to get out of their mess. "Sorry, you bought a Macbook with a USB USB-C port...you want a Thunderbolt USB-C device to use an external monitor. Will that be cash or credit?"
As to end users (regular people) they will be confused as hell.
Why? One of the reasons we use different connectors is to distinguish between what can be hooked up to them. Thunderbolt has one style connector -- and lots of expensive adapters for everything else -- and USB has another one (USB-C).
High end Macs will eventually support Thunderbolt devices with USB-C adapters -- the reverse of how you use Thunderbolt now (Thunderbolt port + adapters for USB, FW, etc). Eventually new Thunderbolt devices will just have USB-C ports. Makes sense? It does for everyone except those people who will try to hook USB-C port Thunderbolt devices to plain old USB with USB-C ports. Will Thunderbolt devices work on USB chains that are hooked together with USB-C connectors? Sure -- they will.... Until you actually try it. And there will be way more USB chains because they are cheap using USB-C port than Thunderbolt devices with USB-C ports.
Brilliant in some ways...less so if you are one of the lucky few to actually use Thunderbolt devices like a display on one of these future Macs. Apple has complicated it by releasing Macs with non-Thunderbolt USB-C ports....some USB-C ports will be USB, some will be Thunderbolt. Fortunately those will be more high end buyers and they can always call an Apple Genius to get out of their mess. "Sorry, you bought a Macbook with a USB USB-C port...you want a Thunderbolt USB-C device to use an external monitor. Will that be cash or credit?"
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First of all, wtf happened to the Macrumors forums?!
Second -- I love my new retina Macbook, but when a new version comes out next year with one of these ports, I'm going to get one and LOVE IT EVEN MORE!!!! Holy cow! Seems obvious in retrospect that Apple expects 1 port to work fine for most people in about a year. I had heard that essentially USB Type-C and Thunderbolt would merge, and this seals it! Wicked!
Second -- I love my new retina Macbook, but when a new version comes out next year with one of these ports, I'm going to get one and LOVE IT EVEN MORE!!!! Holy cow! Seems obvious in retrospect that Apple expects 1 port to work fine for most people in about a year. I had heard that essentially USB Type-C and Thunderbolt would merge, and this seals it! Wicked!
I guess using hubs and daisy chains is going to become less of a power user option if they go down to 3 ports
This has probably been said, but what of the ThunderBolt 1 & 2 devices we already have? (I don't have any myself but ~ ) Hopefully there will be a USB-C/TB3 to TB1/2 adapter.
But I do agree this makes way more sense to combine USB-C and TB than it did to combine DisplayPort and TB. Looking forward to new improvements!
But I do agree this makes way more sense to combine USB-C and TB than it did to combine DisplayPort and TB. Looking forward to new improvements!
The way that USB-C with and without Thunderbolt will be distinguished to the average consumer is the use of the thunderbolt icon next to the USB-C port, am I guessing correctly?
