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Several weeks ago, word surfaced that recent developer builds of Mac OS X 10.6.2 had ceased to support Intel's Atom processors, the basis of many netbook systems popular with those who wish to modify non-Apple systems to run OS X. The news set off a tremendous amount of discussion about the change until additional news surfaced that Atom compatibility had resurfaced in a subsequent developer seed, Build 10C535, released in late October.

A new post by developer and Tumblr user stellarola who has been monitoring the situation indicates that the claim of restored Atom support in Build 10C535 had been faked. He claims to have received confirmation from multiple sources that Atom is not supported in the latest developer seed, known as Build 10C540, released last week.
I spoke to another colleague of mine and he noticed the date of the kernel. He sent me a picture of his kernel information from 10.6.1, which uses the same kernel as 10.6.0. (The name has been removed for privacy purposes)

As you can see the date is exactly the same as the old kernel. Now, let's take a look at my gf's Core2Duo system that's running 10.6.2 Build 10C535. (The name has been removed for privacy purposes)

Obviously the date is different than the previous two. Anyone can tell the first image from "MachVoluM" is a fake. My sources still tell me the Atom CPU is still unsupported even in the latest 10.6.2 build 10C540.
A video has also been posted showing an MSI Wind netbook attempting to boot on the latest 10.6.2 seed, but being unable to do so.



Article Link: Intel Atom Still Unsupported on Mac OS X 10.6.2 Seeds
 

Eidorian

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Mar 23, 2005
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Well that's a real pickle.

I have my doubts that this is intentional to malicious targeting against Atom. We'll have to see once everything is out.
 

iPoodOverZune

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Damn this news is so persistent! Quite frankly it is getting more coverage than the launch of VMware fusion or Parallels desktop or comparison between them, or things like that, which can be interest to regular mac user.

Honestly, I myself have a hackintosh built but for news related to it, I go to insanelymac or netkas blog, and not come to macrumors to hear about it. Lets stick with core mac news (ahem rumors :) )
 

doug in albq

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media: run to the right side. now media run to the left. now all media back to the right side…

at this point no one has access to the mythical 10.6.2
 

balamw

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Aug 16, 2005
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Well that's a real pickle.

I have my doubts that this is intentional to malicious targeting against Atom. We'll have to see once everything is out.

I just hope there are some folks testing it out on the 2006 vintage Yonah Core Duo boxes as well, since they are 32 bit only as well.

B
 

SydneyDev

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I also doubt it's malicious. Perhaps they are compiling more stuff with LLVM/Clang now (instead of GCC) and it generates instructions that only work on desktop CPUs. LLVM is Apple's own compiler, and since they sell no Atom products, there's no reason to believe they would conduct any testing on these CPUs.
 

balamw

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So what do you think it is if not intentional?

Apple is phasing out support for anything but 64 bit in many ways. My iMac won't be supported for Boot Camp in W7, and for a while there it looked like it would not be able to run SL at all.

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Eidorian

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I just hope there are some folks testing it out on the 2006 vintage Yonah Core Duo boxes as well, since they are 32 bit only as well.

B
I would hope so as well. It would be disastarous for the update to somehow break the support for Yonah as well.

So what do you think it is if not intentional?
I don't really know. Yonah is much older than Atom but there might be some specific feature sets that aren't replicated on Atom that 10.6.2 is looking for. I have no idea what the reasoning behind that is though.
 

synth3tik

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Oct 11, 2006
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I think it's a real shame. I don't know if I'd want Apple to officially support non-Apple hardware, but I don't think they should limit the products. It could be a great introduction to OS X for people that might not be able to afford a Mac.

I don't care if they support it, I just don't want them to break it.
 

HLdan

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Aug 22, 2007
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Excellent!!! I hope Apple succeeds in getting rid of all of these useless Hackintosh users. They are not customers of Apple and they just make useless justifications as to why they think they should have the RIGHT to install OS X on non-Apple hardware. GO APPLE!! Get rid of the fake Mac users.
 

edesignuk

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Mar 25, 2002
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Excellent!!! I hope Apple succeeds in getting rid of all of these useless Hackintosh users. They are not customers of Apple and they just make useless justifications as to why they think they should have the RIGHT to install OS X on non-Apple hardware. GO APPLE!! Get rid of the fake Mac users.
What have these evil hacktintoshers done to you? I'm interested to know, you seem to have such a strong opinion and all.
 

Mattie Num Nums

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Excellent!!! I hope Apple succeeds in getting rid of all of these useless Hackintosh users. They are not customers of Apple and they just make useless justifications as to why they think they should have the RIGHT to install OS X on non-Apple hardware. GO APPLE!! Get rid of the fake Mac users.

As a Mac user I would rather you not tarnish the image of other Mac users with your insulting and ignorant comments.
 

badapple18

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Sep 17, 2007
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Excellent!!! I hope Apple succeeds in getting rid of all of these useless Hackintosh users. They are not customers of Apple and they just make useless justifications as to why they think they should have the RIGHT to install OS X on non-Apple hardware. GO APPLE!! Get rid of the fake Mac users.

Get off your high horse, My family and I have purchased MANY apple items to date and I'm typing this on a unibody macbook pro. but there is just something fun about having an OSX Netbook (my Macbook Wind)
 

bsamcash

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Jul 31, 2008
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Well, the netbooks were fun while they lasted. Now their highest selling point has been nullified by his majesty Jobs.
 

Mattie Num Nums

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So?

Macs don't use Intel Atoms anyway.

As much as this is hotly disputed I must agree. It just seems to me like Apple is doing what it can to keep its OS's proper to its hardware. Do I agree, not really, does it make sense, yes.
 

Mattie Num Nums

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Get off your high horse, My family and I have purchased MANY apple items to date and I'm typing this on a unibody macbook pro. but there is just something fun about having an OSX Netbook (my Macbook Wind)

My Dell Mini 9 is what I use on my way to work. It fits in my pocket for the most part and is easy to use on a cramped train. I tried using my MBP but it was just too big.
 

djellison

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Feb 2, 2007
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Excellent!!! I hope Apple succeeds in getting rid of all of these useless Hackintosh users. They are not customers of Apple and they just make useless justifications as to why they think they should have the RIGHT to install OS X on non-Apple hardware. GO APPLE!! Get rid of the fake Mac users.

THIS 'useless Hackintosh user' tried a Hackintosh and only AFTER it, bought his first mac - and since spent a total of about £3500 on Apple hardware.

THIS 'useless Hackintosh user' refused to buy a Mac for a very long time because of the hideous, vitriolic troll like behaviour of mac users like yourself.

THIS 'useless Hackintosh user' wonders if you actually realise that by being such a hideously offensive character, you're damaging the reputation of Apple and its users and reducing the likelihood of people wanted to try a Mac.

THIS 'useless Hackintosh user' knows several people who refuse to try or buy a Mac specifically because of people like you.
 

bsamcash

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Jul 31, 2008
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Excellent!!! I hope Apple succeeds in getting rid of all of these useless Hackintosh users. They are not customers of Apple and they just make useless justifications as to why they think they should have the RIGHT to install OS X on non-Apple hardware. GO APPLE!! Get rid of the fake Mac users.

Some people believe they own whatever software they pay for, and therefore should have a right to do with it as they please.
 

jimmyjoemccrow

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Jul 15, 2009
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Excellent!!! I hope Apple succeeds in getting rid of all of these useless Hackintosh users. They are not customers of Apple and they just make useless justifications as to why they think they should have the RIGHT to install OS X on non-Apple hardware. GO APPLE!! Get rid of the fake Mac users.

Go read their forums. A lot of them are Apple users, or at the very least buy legit copies of OSX to install. Not every Mac user blindly follows Apple's ideas of what the best hardware is.
 
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