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Damn this news is so persistent! Quite frankly it is getting more coverage than the launch of VMware fusion or Parallels desktop or comparison between them, or things like that, which can be interest to regular mac user.

Honestly, I myself have a hackintosh built but for news related to it, I go to insanelymac or netkas blog, and not come to macrumors to hear about it. Lets stick with core mac news (ahem rumors :) )
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Seconded. I would much rather hear about VMware Fusion, and whether I should pay for Expose and game support even though that was promised as something we'd see in 2.1.
 
No doubt about iPods/iPhones, but as I said, I know several former PC users who bought Macs because of hackintoshing. iPods and iPhones had nothing to do with their decisions.

And believe it or not there are Apple users who don't go nuts over the iPod of iPhone.
 
Extremely doubtful. Hackintosh users are either already Mac users or users who refuse to pay an Apple tax. You take their Hackintosh away they are just going to say oh well and move on. If anything it will deter potential customers.

Their numbers don't amount to anything significant. Apple losing a few customers (who are already outside the norm) in order to make it more difficult to circumvent their policies is nothing.
 
But remember, part of the Apple experience is the combination of OS X on Apple hardware. Anything outside of that experience has the potential to taint the Apple experience and Apple will do everything to keep that from happening.

Yes this is exactly how we should be selling it on sites like Engadget.

Bottom line is Apple is in the right to protect its profits by locking out people who also want to cheapen the Mac experience by putting our OS on rubbish Winblows machines.
 
Their numbers don't amount to anything significant. Apple losing a few customers in order to make it more difficult to circumvent their policies is nothing.

So then by your statement it should be insignificant to waste time on limiting such a few amount of customers when Apple could be fixing real issues.
 
Yes this is exactly how we should be selling it on sites like Engadget.

Bottom line is Apple is in the right to protect its profits by locking out people who also want to cheapen the Mac experience by putting our OS on rubbish Winblows machines.

Again for the ignorant, underneath the Mac is the same damn hardware used on countless PC's that sell for less.
 
Yes this is exactly how we should be selling it on sites like Engadget.

Bottom line is Apple is in the right to protect its profits by locking out people who also want to cheapen the Mac experience by putting our OS on rubbish Winblows machines.
Our OS?
Like it is the love child of you and Jobs, Inc? :rolleyes:
I would think self-delusion has its limits… but seems not…
 
Bottom line is Apple is in the right to protect its profits by locking out people who also want to cheapen the Mac experience by putting our OS on rubbish Winblows machines.
A "windblows" machine isn't a Windows machine unless it has windows installed. It's all the same hardware. Maybe this is a bit complicated for you? Probably best you just stick with your current line of nonsense.

HACKINTOSH: BAD!
WINDBLOWS: BAD!
APPLE: <3!
 
So then by your statement it should be insignificant to waste time on limiting such a few amount of customers when Apple could be fixing real issues.

Apple fighting Psystar over running OS X on unauthorized hardware and then turning around and doing absolutely nothing about making it more difficult for everyone else to do the same, is hypocritical. Apple won't go after hackintosh users legally, but making at least a show of enforcing your own policies across the board is the right thing to do, even if it's all for show in court.
 
Again for the ignorant, underneath the Mac is the same damn hardware used on countless PC's that sell for less.

*Correction* Mac is the same damn hardware used on countless Laptop PC's that sell for less. for the first time the imac has a desktop class processor and not everybody needs a f ing xeon processor.......
 
*Correction* Mac is the same damn hardware used on countless Laptop PC's that sell for less. for the first time the imac has a desktop class processor and not everybody needs a f ing xeon processor.......

Well you'd figure that since the iMac is a desktop, it would have a desktop class processor. I mean "windblows" desktops have had them for years. :rolleyes:
 
threads like this would be perfect for populating my MR Forums Ignore List if such a thing existed.

Why don't we have an "ignore" list?
 
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*Correction* Mac is the same damn hardware used on countless Laptop PC's that sell for less. for the first time the imac has a desktop class processor and not everybody needs a f ing xeon processor.......

I'm not an electronics engineer, so I have a question. I know it's all the "same" hardware, but Doesn' Apple design it's own boards in a specific way and engineer their software specifically to understand the exact hardware layout, and doesn't that whole integration have something to do with the "Mac experience"?

I'm being serious, I really don't know, but that's the way I understand it. Maybe I'm a fool.
 
THIS 'useless Hackintosh user' knows several people who refuse to try or buy a Mac specifically because of people like you.

I'm in full agreement here. A lot of people I know won't even try the OS or walk into a store to check things out just because they're sick of the elitest jerks that ruin it for everyone.

It is tough to throw your cash into something completely new to you, and in that regard I don't mind the hackintosh community. Sooner or later they'll get pissed off with all the OS update / driver speed bumps and spend the money to make it official. A warm welcome to them all.

I'm sure Apple is closing support because they aren't interested in giving hacked netbook owners the plethora of fixes and stability improvements that this update brings. Apple has a market to target with this supposed tablet, if it runs a unique version of SL.
 
A lot of these Hackintosh users are people they kept Apple alive when they were struggling. Have you been on Hackintosh forums? Most of the users are LONG TIME Apple supporters.

You surely mean WERE LONG TIME supporters of Apple? I'm not sure how anyone can claim to be a supporter of Apple if they are using hacked versions of OS X on unapproved winblows hardware.
 
What have these evil hacktintoshers done to you? I'm interested to know, you seem to have such a strong opinion and all.

Apple putting resources into supporting Atom costs money. Why should Apple invest in supporting a processor they have no intention of using in their products?

It negatively affects their bottom line, and they could be using that money to invest in their own products that customers actually pay them for.
 
I'm not an electronics engineer, so I have a question. I know it's all the "same" hardware, but Doesn' Apple design it's own boards in a specific way and engineer their software specifically to understand the exact hardware layout, and doesn't that whole integration have something to do with the "Mac experience"?

I'm being serious, I really don't know, but that's the way I understand it. Maybe I'm a fool.

The only difference today is that Apple utilizes a EFI setup instead of using Bios to talk to the hardware as windows does. Windows 7 supports EFI nativley now so we won't even need the bootcamp bootloader to run windows 7. Now when your talking about hackintoshes all you need is "apple supported hardware" for sound, video, and internet, and then you need a nifty EFI bootloader (the one pystar is selling comes to mind, or something more open source) to interface between bios and OSX basically i could set up a coreI7 with the right hardware running osx and it would work just as good as the imac counterpart. just not look as good.
 
While I agree that his post was rather mean spirited, you also overestimate the impact people like you have on Apple's bottom line.

'people like me' - being the 90% of the worlds population that don't buy Mac's? I do - but I didn't, and I'm fairly close to not doing so again. And I know people who refuse to for the reasons I cited ( and cite in detail below) Nahh - if they all bought Mac's - Apples bottom line wouldn't change one tiny bit would it. An order of magitude increase in revenue wouldn't change a thing, would it.


babyjenniferLB said:
You work for your money and buy what you wish with it, this is not high school where everyone must ware the "cool" branded shows or there considered poor or uncool.

The reason I refused to buy a Mac for so long, and the reason given by colleagues I know who refuse to buy one still, is this...

Firstly - they don't want to be a part of the smug, arrogant, lying, troll like community that is the world of Apple users.

and secondly - given what that community says about Windows, and it users ( which, coming from the standpoint of a windows user is 99% pure lies, fiction and insults) then what is this Mac community hiding? If we know them to be lying about Windows so much, then how many lies are they telling about OSX?

I'm actually trying to get the company I work in to switch to Macs. 6 people in the production team. Four of us have Mac's at home, and would all like a 27" iMac at work. One is ambivalent but would be happy to try. One is adamant she doesn't want a Mac. #1 reason cited? Mac users are smug, arrogant ****s. Her words, not mine. 4 years ago, I'd have agreed with her. Without the option to try a Hackintosh - I would still be on her side, and sadly, even after being a Mac user for 3 years - the best I could muster in response is "I know exactly what you mean".
 
Makes sense to optimize the OS for the hardware that it supports. Just like getting rid of PPC code from the binaries.

Apples SNL is a move for optimization and for allowing full 64 bits. Why would they use compiler directives that produce code for hardware that does not exist in the Mac line?
 
I'm not an electronics engineer, so I have a question. I know it's all the "same" hardware, but Doesn' Apple design it's own boards in a specific way and engineer their software specifically to understand the exact hardware layout, and doesn't that whole integration have something to do with the "Mac experience"?

I'm being serious, I really don't know, but that's the way I understand it. Maybe I'm a fool.

This extends only as far as writing drivers etc. The chipset, the CPU, the firewire chips, USB chips - all the various components on an Apple motherboard are the same as a PC motherboard. And an Apple motherboard only differs from a PC motherboard in the same way that different PC motherboards also differ from one another ( a gigabyte, an MSI and an Asus are not identical) - the only difference is the EFI Bios.
 
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