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'Intel Based Mac' Rumor Roundup...

IscariotJ said:
I take your point about it being primarily servers, but XP will allow multiple users to be logged on.
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In a private environment I don't see any problem with this security issue, since I don't see why a brother would hack the account of his sister and why a private user would use RSA encryption anyway...

In an enterprise environment I don't see computers used with multiple users being logged on concurrently...!?!?! No Admin normally allows that because of many security reasons.

Don't get me wrong. I don't try to say that this design flaw is not there, I just fail to see how it actually is a problem in 99.9% of the cases in real life.

groovebuster
 
Get Ready

Does Intel even know what its in for? The Mac-converted will be combing their place in no time looking for dirt on the kext chip! :p
 
groovebuster said:
In a private environment I don't see any problem with this security issue, since I don't see why a brother would hack the account of his sister and why a private user would use RSA encryption anyway...

groovebuster
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I would totally hack my brother's account...god only knows what he's doing on his computer! :eek:
 
update please

Since I seem to have missed about 700 posts, could anyone give me a short update?
I have understood that the Intel thing is going to happen, but are there any conclusions whether Apple is going PPC or x86? :confused:
From what I have gathered from the recent posts it almost looks like everybody is more or less certain that Apple is going x86.
Please say it isn't so... :eek:
 
groovebuster said:
BTW... did anyone consider another reason why Apple is going Intel/AMD...?

Built-in DRM? Anybody?
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It has been mentioned: the suggestion was that it was Hollywood's quid pro quo for distributing movies à la iTunes.
 
groovebuster said:
In an enterprise environment I don't see computers used with multiple users being logged on concurrently...!?!?! No Admin normally allows that because of many security reasons.
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Agreed, but it the vulnerability could allow a process running as another account to access a logged on users data. All I was trying to show, was that if the hardware is "insecure", it doesn't bode well for the OS.

If this rumour is true, I wonder what sort of cooling Apple are going to need to keep a PentiumD from melting the case? Perhaps they've implemented liquid metal cooling?

J
 
Dr.Gargoyle said:
Since I seem to have missed about 700 posts, could anyone give me a short update?
I have understood that the Intel thing is going to happen, but are there any conclusions whether Apple is going PPC or x86? :confused:
From what I have gathered from the recent posts it almost looks like everybody is more or less certain that Apple is going x86.
Please say it isn't so... :eek:
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Consensus seems to be x86 with Transitive's emulator on top.
 
Subtle rumblings

nagromme said:
A fat binary is still two separate apps, they're just combined for the USER'S convenience. Both in one place and the OS runs the correct one, so the user doesn't have to think about it.

But the developer still has to make both versions, whether combined as fat or not. And making the new x86 version won't be simple in every case.

Fat binaries could well be a helpful part of the transition--as it was for 680x0->PPC--but I don't think it will help the developers that much, other than by making things convenient for their customers.
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That's how fat binaries worked in the past (that was sooo 90s), but maybe they've come up with something a little more advanced. These are *FAT* binaries afterall; Some mix of java-esque byte codes, a little bit of mono... and then you have OSX.NET!!!! :eek:

Whatever it is, it has sure stirred up the rumour hornet's nest.
(planned_leak == true)

-Wyrm
 
Dr.Gargoyle said:
Since I seem to have missed about 700 posts, could anyone give me a short update?
I have understood that the Intel thing is going to happen, but are there any conclusions whether Apple is going PPC or x86? :confused:
From what I have gathered from the recent posts it almost looks like everybody is more or less certain that Apple is going x86.
Please say it isn't so... :eek:
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There doesn't seem to be much to update...there's still a bit of freaking out going on...but overall, it seems that the idea of Apple going to Intel is starting to settle in...and most people are accepting that a Mac will still be a Mac...

Umm...it's looking like most think that it's going to be Apple to x86, but still, some are hoping that it'll be Intel starts making PPCs.

And yeah, there's still a few thinking that this will all be a HUGE hoax and Steve will easily dismiss it before introducing something cool at WWDC.
 
IscariotJ said:
If this rumour is true, I wonder what sort of cooling Apple are going to need to keep a PentiumD from melting the case? Perhaps they've implemented liquid metal cooling?
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A problem every PC manufacturer is facing the same way... not Apple specific. Since the PPC970 is already far from being a cool processor Apple should be experienced enough to handle problems like that. :)

groovebuster
 
Graphics cards?

Finally, read all (sort of) pages of comments.. phew..

Does anyone know what an x86 switch would do to graphics cards compatability. Will it be easier and cheaper to put PC-versions of cards into your Mac?
 
fitinferno said:
There doesn't seem to be much to update...there's still a bit of freaking out going on...but overall, it seems that the idea of Apple going to Intel is starting to settle in...and most people are accepting that a Mac will still be a Mac...

Umm...it's looking like most think that it's going to be Apple to x86, but still, some are hoping that it'll be Intel starts making PPCs.

And yeah, there's still a few thinking that this will all be a HUGE hoax and Steve will easily dismiss it before introducing something cool at WWDC.
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Speaking for myself, I have no problems with Intel as the main chip provider. That being said.... x86... I am still in denial. The 680x0 -> PPC transition was bad enough. Another transition would probably entail the loss more or less the enitre science community.
PPC -> x86 would IMHO be a step back. A small step back for Jobs but a giant leap back for the Mac community. :(
 
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