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'Intel Based Mac' Rumor Roundup...

looking into the crystal ball...

whats going to be announced will all be driven by the desire to keep the apple brand untarnished, so they will try to keep end-users, buyers and developers happy. hence the announced smooth long-term transition phase. such transitions have been done before, not only by Apple but also Digital, HP, SGI, SUN, etc. etc.. and they all had long lead-times in common.

- move to intel x86 processors mid 2006 for the notebooks
- improved ibook and powerbooks running G4 NOW, so that their sales don't collapse, possibly with dual-core
- dual-core PowerMac and iMac soon so that those sales don't collapse either
- apple will continue to build their own machines with their own motherboards etc but will base this on intel chipsets, having control over the hardware people use is vital for this effort.
- macosx will only run on those machines, not sure about macosx server..
- developers can get prototype machines running intel processors soon, maybe via a pci daughterboard (?)
- steve will show a prototype, possibly the machine that they will make accessible to developers
- xcode 2.0 will be able to cross-build for all platforms and produce fat binaries
- some sort of built-in processor emulation for the apps that can not be ported
- move the rest of the line beginning of 2007, well in advance of longhorn

I think this is how its going to turn out and if so, I'm pretty sure it's going to be a big success.
 
rendezvouscp said:
Nope, I'll look for some figures, but PPC chips indeed are cheaper than their Intel and AMD counterparts.
-Chase
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Intel and AMD make a broad range of processors. The latest and greatest Intel/AMD are always premium priced, but the chips a click or two below the latest and greatest are almost dirt cheap.

FWIW...
 
Omen88 said:
Maybe it's been mentioned before, but I'm too lazy to look in such a long thread.

Intel lets Aopen design a mac mini look-a-like (rip-off). Why the hell would they do that, when later on the macs will contain Intel processors anyway (including the mini from the c-net article)?

Maybe Apple is pissed off at Intel and lets such a rumor loose, and then at WWDC says in your face intel. And keep that crappy Aopen look-a-like, cause that's the closest you will get to getting in a mac.

And then 3.5Ghz G5's with some Cells... now that would be some news.
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Now that's a view I likie, probably unlikley but that would be funny
 
rashdown_online said:
53 PAGES!!! :eek:

Is this a record for M.R.F.???

Do we need to call The Guiness Book Of Records??? :confused:

EDIT: 54 PAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Probably 55 by the time I press Submit!)
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Not even close, the record is for Dual 2.5ghz Powermacs shipping with 6,197 replies! This one would have to get to 2,000 to get to second place.
 
WWDC 2005

Apple will switch to Intel. They probably already have Tiger totally fonctionnal on Intel HW, and all their core apps too. Steve Jobs will bring CEO of Intel on stage (they are friend) and they will bring a representative of Transitive (the emulation/recompilation software compagny) and make a demo on stage of recompiling a small app in a couple of minute, with absolutely no speed problem. Next month they will open the Imovie store, with a video/ipod like device, and mac mini with intel centrino/WiMAX chip to stream the movies.

As much as i like my 17" inch powerbook(mainly for os X), the pentium M/centrino stuff completely beat the hell out of it in term of rendering speed, etc.
If they switch to Intel/x86, it will be easier for next version of Adobe, microsoft and the like to code their software. There's not much third party software exclusively develop for the mac, so every software developer should be happy in the long run.

(sorry for my english, its not my native language).
 
mspock said:
Apple will switch to Intel. They probably already have Tiger totally fonctionnal on Intel HW, and all their core apps too. Steve Jobs will bring CEO of Intel on stage (they are friend) and they will bring a representative of Transitive (the emulation/recompilation software compagny) and make a demo on stage of recompiling a small app in a couple of minute, with absolutely no speed problem. Next month they will open the Imovie store, with a video/ipod like device, and mac mini with intel centrino/WiMAX chip to stream the movies.
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I hope you're right :D Although it would be iMovie and they would have to figure out what to do with their application with the same name...
 
myapplseedshurt said:
I know what I'm talking about... even at large volume purchaches, the G5 is cheaper.
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It's inane because you don't specify which Intel processor you're talking about. What chip. What socket. What speed. The price of the Intel line drops exponentially as the clock speed decreases.
 
rashdown_online said:
Old:

BinDoze;
Idiot Outside;
BinTel
Devil Inside;

New:

WidowMACer (Works SOOOO well, it can't be put down).
ProzMAC (A well known sleep suppressent brand needs to be taken 'cause the NEW (formaly known as G5) I5 PowerBook makes an appearance, and can't be put down);

Come to think of it: iMac -> IMac...

Any more for any more???

Can have some fun here me thinks :rolleyes:
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Depending on how much of his soul Steve sold to Intel will decide whether we have a Macintel or an Intelimac.
 
I wondering how much the apple loyalist are willing to pay for my new PM G5 on ebay ?

I think apple is going in the right direction : Mac OS X on x86. I can finnaly get rid of my WinSpyware XP for good.
 
rdowns said:
Shares of Apple Computer Inc. were up 2.3 percent before the bell, ahead of Chief Executive Officer Steve Jobs' keynote speech at the company's Worldwide Developers Conference on Monday.

Apple shares gained 88 cents to $39.12 on Inet, up from their $38.24 close on Friday on the Nasdaq.
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Now that the real buyers are active it's down .36 to $37.88. Not sure what to read into it yet.
 
has this been posted here?

I ran across this on another board. Sorry if this is a repost, but I thought it might be of interest:

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"Intel is rolling out a new line of processors. It will
have multiple cores, NOT x86-based, 3 GHz and up, will license the
AltiVec/Velocity Engine from Apple, will not require any software
rewrites. This is from my good friend who is one of the chief
engineers at Intel."

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Wow, I hope it is true!
 
I don't get why they would make this switch - at least based on everything else I have heard. It seems all other tech sources have been pointing to IBM as having the chip of the future. The chip that can grow and grow. Isn't that why MS went with an IBM chip for the X Box?

I also don't understand it from a MGHz perspective. I could see if the G5 was still stuck at less than 2 Ghz, and while 2.7 isn't 3Ghz it isn't that far behind the 3.8Ghz being offered by Intel.

If heat is an issue, I could see the change to Intel working for some lower end work stations and maybe laptops (uncertain here), but in the high end desktops I would think a 3.8Ghz machine would run as hot if not hotter than a 2.7Ghz G5.

The only major benefit (from Steve's perspective) I could see is if Apple wanted to take MS head on. Afterall, Tiger is supposed to be much like Longhorn (or vice versa). Move to the same chip and you can compare apples to apples (pun intended). Given all the virus problems this could gain many customers - until some start being written for OSX. The real key is how much effort it would take to port windows apps to OSX on Intel.

Should be interesting - if this is true.
 
changey processor changey name

As i said before you will have to lose the POWER if x86 comes about:


Powerbooks = Telbooks
Powermacs = TelMacs (or something hideous like TelMaX)
 
Chimera said:
Not even close, the record is for Dual 2.5ghz Powermacs shipping with 6,197 replies! This one would have to get to 2,000 to get to second place.
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But the 6,197 post for Dual 2.5s was over a 6 month period. This thread has been up for less than 48 hours. :eek:
 
isaacc7 said:
Maybe, but all of the supporting things are more expensive. If Apple goes with an off the shelf processor, it could also use off the shelf motherboards, controllers, video, etc. This is where the cost savings could come from. Not having to custom design everything will save tons.

Isaac
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It's not just the processors that cause apple to go with non-standard mobos etc. it's the innovative design and architecture of their hardware. Unless apple completely bought in to the intel mentality and will now be producing beige boxes and trashy see-through cases with neon lighting, then we will still have to shell out extra for the classy apple design. I for one am okay with paying a premium for something that doesn't depress me everytime I look at it.
 
soldat said:
I ran across this on another board. Sorry if this is a repost, but I thought it might be of interest:

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"Intel is rolling out a new line of processors. It will
have multiple cores, NOT x86-based, 3 GHz and up, will license the
AltiVec/Velocity Engine from Apple, will not require any software
rewrites. This is from my good friend who is one of the chief
engineers at Intel."

-----

Wow, I hope it is true!
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Yes, but what are the odds that Intel will be willing to produce a completely new chip for a company that has very little market share? This question has come up many, many times.
 
alexeismertin said:
As i said before you will have to lose the POWER if x86 comes about:

Powerbooks = Telbooks
Powermacs = TelMacs (or something hideous like TelMaX)
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How about the PowerMac Gx86!
 
After the keynote today it will be interesting to see if they leave the information on apple.com about the G5 processor unchanged. Right now the G5 page DOES NOT speak very highly of anything offered in the x86 world and shows the G5 completely crushing them all in benchmarks. My guess is that this information will be gone by this afternoon.

http://www.apple.com/powermac/performance/
 
Abercrombieboy said:
After the keynote today it will be interesting to see if they leave the information on apple.com about the G5 processor unchanged. Right now the G5 page DOES NOT speak very highly of anything offered in the x86 world and shows the G5 completely crushing them all in benchmarks. My guess is that this information will be gone by this afternoon.

http://www.apple.com/powermac/performance/
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If this page goes down before the keynote, we should know that something is up...
 
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