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'Intel Based Mac' Rumor Roundup...

iGary said:
OK, with an hour and a half to go, here is iGary's official guess™:

1. Apple will not switch to X86. Period.
2. Apple MAY have Intel manufacture PowerPC chips for them.
3. The whole thing was/is a hoax.

😀
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And citing the OBVIOUS silence by ThinkSecret, Apple has discovered one very large and somewhat elusive Mole!! 😀
 
I'll get my guess on record too 🙂

Apple will announce that Darwin and OS X will be supported on Intel AS WELL AS PPC. They will have a new focus on business customers. Different product lines with different processors will allow them to focus efforts more precisely for customer needs.

or maybe an x86 based tablet... 🙂
 
iGary said:
OK, with an hour and a half to go, here is iGary's official guess™:

1. Apple will not switch to X86. Period.
2. Apple MAY have Intel manufacture PowerPC chips for them.
3. The whole thing was/is a hoax.

😀
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Couldn't agree more. 😀

Add to that: Steve announcing that the new Powermacs will be powered by the IBM Power5 processor using Translative technology. This will boost specs to the equivalent of an 8 way G5 2.7 😀 😱 😀
 
Boy, am I glad...

Boy am I glad that I decided to stick to my trusty TiBook 1Ghz. The subsequent revisions were not significant enough to upgrade.

And if it is true that the PB will be sporting new chips, I can comfortably wait the transition still using the TiBook! ;-)

In any case,whether the transition to the new chips is smooth or not, many people will not be purchasing any Macs until the next revision of the "new" PB and that the software for it is already good and running.

Apple will take a very bad, short-term hit (perhaps the first 5 years or so). But in the long run (if it doesn't fold), it will open possibilities never before imagined.

My 2 cents.
 
iGary said:
OK, with an hour and a half to go, here is iGary's official guess™:

1. Apple will not switch to X86. Period.
2. Apple MAY have Intel manufacture PowerPC chips for them.
3. The whole thing was/is a hoax.

😀
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This would be the most sensible of all the FUD that has been flung around the net since CNET started the rumor . I hope Apple sues the sh*t out of them when this is done. IMHO, number one is absolutely true. Number two has possibilities and number three is definite!
😎
 
Squidly said:
Why bother? What's the benefit of them doing it over IBM? Is the thought that they can come up with a workable G5 notebook solution or boost the MHZ on the desktop models at a faster pace than IBM? Will they be able to make them more cheaply?

Questions, questions...anyway this goes there are questions.
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Marketing is all about perception.With the new gaming consoles using the PowerPC architecture the mainstream user is going to "think" Apple computers are no better than a game console.Jobs does not want this view of Macs.

Just my opinion mind you 🙂
 
Just poking around the Transitive website...

http://www.transitives.com/gameing_oem.htm

gaming_oem_graphic.gif


I wonder who they had in mind with that graphic - backwards compatibility of X86 games on PowerPC games consoles. Looks to me like Microsoft are using Transitive technology too in the XBox360.

Or maybe Apple are adding Transitive technology to the Mac so that PC software runs at a decent speed on the Mac. Now that would be funny! All these pundits thinking Apple were switching to Intel but in fact it's Apple saying 'WE OWNZ YOUR SOFTWARE TOO'. 🙂
 
TrenchcoatJedi said:
One of my profs wanted to buy a Dual 2.7 with his own grant money. The university ITS department made him sign a waiver that they wouldn't support his machine if anything went wrong. This is the same department that has 20 hours a week of scheduled downtime for it's $10,000 barely functional Exchange 2003 Server.
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God knows how much we pay for our virus ridden mess. The problem is that the science community is very conservative. New systems are bad by default. Macs are regarded as toys and not workstations. 🙁
Apple should seriously put some more effort into the EDU sector. If an dept uses Macs and Apple apps the students will have to use Macs. After a couple of years they will be converted to the good side and be true Mac heads... 😀
 
iGary said:
OK, with an hour and a half to go, here is iGary's official guess™:

1. Apple will not switch to X86. Period.
2. Apple MAY have Intel manufacture PowerPC chips for them.
3. The whole thing was/is a hoax.

😀
Click to expand...
Nice to hear that some more than me is in denial. 😀
 
60 minutes and counting. Oh wait, that's only until the keynote OPENS. Probably closer to 120 minutes before the REAL juicy stuff comes out. 🙄
 
Dr.Gargoyle said:
God knows how much we pay for our virus ridden mess. The problem is that the science community is very conservative. New systems are bad by default. Macs are regarded as toys and not workstations. 🙁
Apple should seriously put some more effort into the EDU sector. If an dept uses Macs and Apple apps the students will have to use Macs. After a couple of years they will be converted to the good side and be true Mac heads... 😀
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I noticed that Apple has recently been winning a number of RFP's in the Academic world. A lot of them have been high profile wins with xServe nodes (256 nodes, 512 nodes with Grid software !!!)

Makes a statement about commitment to me 🙄
 
Intel PPC? Heck no...

I'm surprised that so many think this is about Intel starting a PPC production.

That, to me, seems to be least likely scenario. Why would Intel invest that amount of cash in production facility and R&D in a PPC? This is big money guys. And for what? An Apple share? That seems not to be very business savy. Further by doing that Intel might send mixed signal about their future processor technology; "Isn't the x86 good enough?", "Why PPC? What's wrong with your own architectur?" etc. etc.

Besides, pretty much all the rumours doesn't mention this as a posibility.
 
Dr.Gargoyle said:
God knows how much we pay for our virus ridden mess. The problem is that the science community is very conservative. New systems are bad by default. Macs are regarded as toys and not workstations. 🙁
Apple should seriously put some more effort into the EDU sector. If an dept uses Macs and Apple apps the students will have to use Macs. After a couple of years they will be converted to the good side and be true Mac heads... 😀
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There are about 3 Mac enabled professors here. One lab is entirely Mac and the PI is a Mac Zealot. That's the only place I've ever seen an official AirPort base station. I think all but one of his lab of post docs and grad students use Macs. With Apple technology they may unravel the mysteries of the Raphe Nuclei in the brainstem.
 
CmdrLaForge said:
http://developer.apple.com/document...r/gestalt_refchap/chapter_1.4_section_38.html

I don't know if this was posted before. Seems like a clear hint to me.
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Maybe more interesting than those old x86 chips is a big note in System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/Headers/Gestalt.h -

IMPORTANT NOTE: gestaltNativeCPUFamily may no longer be updated for any new
processor families introduced after the 970. If there are
processor specific features you need to be checking for in
your code, use one of the appropriate apis to get for those
exact features instead of assuming that all members of a given
cpu family exhibit the same behaviour. The most appropriate api
to look at is sysctl() and sysctlbyname(), which return information
direct from the kernel about the system.
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gkhaldi said:
I noticed that Apple has recently been winning a number of RFP's in the Academic world. A lot of them have been high profile wins with xServe nodes (256 nodes, 512 nodes with Grid software !!!)

Makes a statement about commitment to me 🙄
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With all due respect, that is a fart in a hurricane. Take a look at your local university and you will see what is like. I love Macs, but the sad truth is the the science community is moving away from the OSX platform. That being said, due to all the problems with viruses we might see a change...
Let's just hope it will go that way.
 
Dr.Gargoyle said:
With all due respect, that is a fart in a hurricane. Take a look at your local university and you will see what is like. I love Macs, but the sad truth is the the science community is moving away from the OSX platform. That being said, due to all the problems with viruses we might see a change...
Let's just hope it will go that way.
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Sorry to hear this but I know for sure that the 4 big universities in Belgium all have chosen for a grid solution based on xServes. I know because I lost with IBM
🙁
 
alexeismertin said:
As i said before you will have to lose the POWER if x86 comes about:


Powerbooks = Telbooks
Powermacs = TelMacs (or something hideous like TelMaX)
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I think the Power is in reference to Pro/power users.
 
Look at the benefits of Mac on PC. If Apple used all PC components this time instead of Mac Only video cards etc then Apple would finally be out of that constraint. When manufacturers of cards have to build a specific card just for apple it limits expandability and costs more. Look at the price of mac cards vs pc cards, its insane. I am very excited about the prospects of going into best buy, buying a new card for sound or whatever and putting it into my mac.
 
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