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'Intel Based Mac' Rumor Roundup...

Dr.Gargoyle said:
God knows how much we pay for our virus ridden mess. The problem is that the science community is very conservative. New systems are bad by default. Macs are regarded as toys and not workstations. :(
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Time to hire competent sysadmins then.
 
aussiemac86 said:
id like to hear from someone with indepth knowledge of this kind of thing, but how likely is it that transitive is as good as they claim (ie no real performance losses). It just seems odd that Virtual PC etc havent been able to come up with something that comes anywhere close to what this promises.
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It's not odd at all that Virtual PC can't match the speed of QuickTransit.

A.) QuickTransit is hardware, not software.

B.) QuickTransit doesn't emulate an entire OS, just the architecture (more or less).
 
A more accurate assessment would be Apple is ADDING x86 chips. They will be running on both ppc chips and x86 chips. In fact, I suspect Apple wants OSX to be chip agnostic. :rolleyes:
 
WHAT TO DO???

Do I now:

1) Go home to NO B/Band or dial-up and wait until tomorrow morning to find out what happened?
2) Stay at work and keep pressing F5 in BinDoze IE (like I've been doing ALL DAY - on contractor rates :cool: )
3) Go to the local hotel, park in the bar, hook up to the free WiFi using my lovely PPC based P/Book, and become skint paying for hotel priced booze to calm the nerves while not being alowed to smoke as all the places round here are no smoking :mad: :mad: :mad:

Can't Do 1) WONT DO 1)!!!

Won't get overtime for 2.

Might meet a nice young lady in the posh hotel with option 3). Looks like it option 3 then.

20 mins to go!!!!!!!! :p
 
Thank you IscariotJ! Finally someone who knows this is all BS!!:cool:
Neither CNet nor The Wall Street Journal reports offer any technical details whatsoever regarding the supposed switch. None. Why? Is it because their sources (and both publications claim multiple sources; let’s hope neither publication is using the plural to describe a a single source) don’t know the technical details? Don’t understand them? Or that they refused to reveal them?
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JRM PowerPod said:
Wise members of Macrumors. WTF is happening?

My bet is that nothing big happens
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Come on people, it's going to be true - all of it.

1. Apple switches to x86. Period.
2. Apple is PPC free in a year.
3. Apple migrates first to some Pentium M system then the Pentium D later.

Denial will get you no where and, besides, this would be a GREAT move for Apple.

Haven't you coveted a 1 pound laptop like Sony's x505? I have and with Pentium M, that will be possible.
 
holy jesus what a long thread. i'm sure i'm just echoing others here, but i really do think it's going to happen today, the announcement. And hopefully, that will be a good thing. But there is a gamble here... I mean, OS X for intel would be out for like, a day before it was hacked to run on standard PCs, probably no matter how hard Apple tries to stop them... A lot of people just want OS X on cheap hardware, it's their wet dream. If it caught on, it could reduce Apple to try and make money with software, which opens a whole new can of worms.

If Jobs does announce it, it'll be the biggest, most radical thing to happen to the Mac platform since it's creation...
 
lady's and gentlemen.. i give u the new ibook.. featuring the new intel proc... u heard it here first lol :p
 
If they switch to x86, why now?

What seems strange to me is that they would switch to x86 now. Why didn't they switch before the G5 was made, when the performance of the fastest available Powermac was seriously lacking to Intel and AMD offerings. Currently the G5 keeps up pretty good with Intel and AMD pure on performance (not clock speed in the Intel case). We already know that IBM is working on the 970 MP, which should keep the G5+ on par with AMD and Intel offerings.

And with Freescale offering 2 GHZ+ dual core e600 processors later this year, or early next year, Apple should be able to get the powerbook/ibook and macmini up to date as well.

I really don't see any good reason to switch to Intel now. After all Intel seems to be stuck to 3.8 Ghz and AMD is gaining on them quickly with their more powerful dual core chips.

The switch to Intel could very well mean the end of Apple hardware, if OS-X runs on X86 and offers windows compatibility allowing viruses and adware to infiltrate our systems. Emulation of PPC software will likely create a slow and unstable platform. Also it will create customer confusion, when people with legacy G4/G5 systems can't run new OS-X software written for x86.

If this is all true, the apple future start to look really dark to me. It might just end up like the Amiga did, with only a very small group of dye hard users still supporting it long after the company died. :(
 
One thing I do truly hope Steve announces is that Carbon is finally dead! With Macromedia owned by Adobe now, there aren't many more apps left lagging around using this (MS is the only other that comes to mind). Pure Cocoa is what need from now on, whatever chip doesn't matter.
 
rashdown_online said:
Do I now:

1) Go home to NO B/Band or dial-up and wait until tomorrow morning to find out what happened?
2) Stay at work and keep pressing F5 in BinDoze IE (like I've been doing ALL DAY - on contractor rates :cool: )
3) Go to the local hotel, park in the bar, hook up to the free WiFi using my lovely PPC based P/Book, and become skint paying for hotel priced booze to calm the nerves while not being alowed to smoke as all the places round here are no smoking :mad: :mad: :mad:

Can't Do 1) WONT DO 1)!!!

Won't get overtime for 2.

Might meet a nice young lady in the posh hotel with option 3). Looks like it option 3 then.

20 mins to go!!!!!!!! :p
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I'd go for the alcohol, too. Make up a drinking game while you read.
 
hashkey said:
no really. get outside, get some fresh air. please. it's for your own good.
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LOL
:D :D

I just can't. I have to know. This news is bigger than any other Apple news.
 
They are switching because:

1) They can reach a wider audience
2) Longhorn is late, and still will have security flaws. Why not make OSX a viable choice for everyone?
3) Pentium D security for Itunes "movie" store
4) Steve-o just doesn't like to get dicked around by companies he doesn't have control over.
 
I think this switch can be a good thing for Apple users in the end.

For me basically the only thing that really counts if I can use the software I bought in the past on any new Apple Computer I will buy in the future.

If thats the case - I don't care. If not - well that is a different story...
 
HUH?

Mac-Xpert said:
What seems strange to me is that they would switch to x86 now. Why didn't they switch before the G5 was made, when the performance of the fastest available Powermac was seriously lacking to Intel and AMD offerings. Currently the G5 keeps up pretty good with Intel and AMD pure on performance (not clock speed in the Intel case). We already know that IBM is working on the 970 MP, which should keep the G5+ on par with AMD and Intel offerings.

And with Freescale offering 2 GHZ+ dual core e600 processors later this year, or early next year, Apple should be able to get the powerbook/ibook and macmini up to date as well.

I really don't see any good reason to switch to Intel now. After all Intel seems to be stuck to 3.8 Ghz and AMD is gaining on them quickly with their more powerful dual core chips.

The switch to Intel could very well mean the end of Apple hardware, if OS-X runs on X86 and offers windows compatibility allowing viruses and adware to infiltrate our systems. Emulation of PPC software will likely create a slow and unstable platform. Also it will create customer confusion, when people with legacy G4/G5 systems can't run new OS-X software written for x86.

If this is all true, the apple future start to look really dark to me. It might just end up like the Amiga did, with only a very small group of dye hard users still supporting it long after the company died. :(
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Whatever, Steve will make sure that you can't install OS X on anything that it isn't meant to be. A CPU is only part of the system. True, anything is possible, but it wouldn't be too hard to make it too much of a pain to hack. Even if windows could be installed, viruses affect the OS, not the hardware, how would a virus mess up an OS X system without root privledges? Apple having a choice of CPU manufacturers can only be a good thing. The emulation that Transitive uses looks very promising, I have a feeling that there will be a speed boost with the new chips even though there is emulation involved. The Freescale stuff is a dead end. Regardless of how fast they make their processors, the bus speeds are pathetic. Apple will be more succesful than ever because of this, why all the Fear? It's just a CPU...

Isaac
 
isaacc7 said:
OK, here's my guess. Apple will go with x86 on the lower end machines and laptops now and leave the G5 alone. The x86 machines will run with emulation so that the transition is seamless. New G5 machines will be released, but they'll just be a speed bump, no dual core:-( They may have PCI express in them though. In addition to having new x86 chips in them, the Mac Mini will have it's RAM boosted and have a new video card. Basicly, I see Apple ditching the dead end stuff from Freescale immediately and leave the door open for the top end stuff later on. They can make the decision on what to put in the powermac series based on what is availible at the time. This will eventually mean that they will put some sort of AMD or Intel chip in them. The best news is that this will mean that APPLE will at long last be able to choose the best processors for the top end, regardless of who is making them. They won't be locked into a particular manufacturer any longer! Yipee! Big things are ahead, choice can only be good!

Isaac
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I agree.

One other item to note is that Apple announced at the last earnings report, that it will no longer break down the sales of the computers. They knew this was coming and it would hurt them for a few quarters. The move will drive down the demand for the G5 machines, however there are plenty of new customers who will continue to buy regardless of what the future holds. Apple is in the best position ever to make the transition without hurting them that much.
 
Expect the fanboy to come out strong this afternoone... what is so bad about running Mac Os X on a x86 or PPC processor anyway ? As long as I have Mac Os X, the rest doesn't matter. It's all about the software, the user experience, not about hardware.

If this rumors is true, the Congrats Mr Jobs for having the balls to make the switch.
 
Dr.Gargoyle said:
30 minutes until the world as we know will cease to exist.
Have a wonderful day.
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I just counted how many days it's been since Tiger was released to see if it was 42 days...38. Damn.
 
rashdown_online said:
Do I now:

1) Go home to NO B/Band or dial-up and wait until tomorrow morning to find out what happened?
2) Stay at work and keep pressing F5 in BinDoze IE (like I've been doing ALL DAY - on contractor rates :cool: )
3) Go to the local hotel, park in the bar, hook up to the free WiFi using my lovely PPC based P/Book, and become skint paying for hotel priced booze to calm the nerves while not being alowed to smoke as all the places round here are no smoking :mad: :mad: :mad:

Can't Do 1) WONT DO 1)!!!

Won't get overtime for 2.

Might meet a nice young lady in the posh hotel with option 3). Looks like it option 3 then.

20 mins to go!!!!!!!! :p
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Yes definitely no. 3. Have a little one-man party. Good luck with the dames. ;)
 
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