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sushi said:
Going way out on a limb, mind you...as in I have no idea.

You may be right that Apple may be heading towards this concept.

I notice the one that CmdrLaForge linked did not contain all the 86 variants.

Without some research, no idea how many Applo chip sets there are, but my guess is more than shows.

We do know that Unix/Linux runs on just about anything these days.

Looking at the Mac OS X's underpinnings, maybe that is the long term goal of Mac OS X.5 and up. That is run on a variety of chip sets that meet certain criteria.

Well the Keynote will be starting soon...anticipation! Arg!

Edit: Then again, Apple may just being prudent in case they do need to switch at some future date -- as in not today or two years from today.

Sushi
Ok, assume OSX could be CPU independent, would that mean programs/apps would be CPU independent too? I saw some referrence to Dynamite before.
We would in other words be able to run any program through OSX on any CPU given it had the Apple ROM.... Could that be it?????? :confused:
If so.....
O M G!!!! :eek:
 
Doctor Q said:
Our plan is to keep the forums open during the keynote, if all goes well. Discuss what you hear and enjoy the keynote!.
Great! My only problem now is that I'm still at work watching this news with much anticipation, but I should really go home now....
At least Steve isn't wearing a intel shirt yet :rolleyes: :p
 
Mac-Xpert said:
Not likely I'm sure if this gets official the the WWDC thread will get some spectacular negative rating
;)


If it means an improvement in performance (the only reason I can think of for switching chips) then why would there be any negativity at all?

Isaac
 
Dr.Gargoyle said:
Ok, assume OSX could be CPU independent, would that mean programs/apps would be CPU independent too? I saw some referrence to Dynamite before.
It could also simply mean that a program can be compiled for any platform where the operating systems runs. That's standard issue for Unix-like operating systems.
We would in other words be able to run any program through OSX on any CPU given it had the Apple ROM.... Could that be it?????? :confused:
If so.....
O M G!!!! :eek:
There really hasn't been very much important stuff in the Apple ROMs for years now, and Open Firmware is just that, open. Apple have already done their homework in the past few hardware generations to make any potential switches or additions easier.
 
I have gotten this:

Time to refresh : 16 secondsLive Updates
5:33 pm next release will be called Leopard
5:33 pm 5 major versions of OS X
5:33 pm most say intel rumors
5:33 pm shows Apple stories in RSS feed
5:33 pm over 400 dashboard widgets
5:33 pm this week - will deliver the 2 millionth copy of OS X Tiger
5:33 pm quicktime 7.0 for windows available later today
5:33 pm over a billion copies of quicktime downloaded
5:33 pm mentions spotlight, dashboard, h.264
5:33 pm one more way iPod/iTunes at the forefront of digital music revolution
5:33 pm makes podcasting mainstream for everyone
5:00 pm recently had 430 million songs downloaded - marketshare going up
5:00 pm last quarter - sold 16 million ipods, reflected in market share - overall 76% among ALL players
5:00 pm update on iPod
5:00 pm best buying experience in the world
5:00 pm retail group trying to find best interface for stores
5:00 pm 109 stores worldwide
5:00 pm $1/2 billion products moved
5:00 pm 109 stores worldwide
5:00 pm steve wearing all black
10:12 am steve wearing all black
10:05 am Steve takes the stage
9:59 am *music playing*
9:46 am testing 1234
 
Dr.Gargoyle said:
what is true?

Macs on Intel

Mudbug: new site on Apple.com for widgets
MacRumor: shows Apple stories in RSS feed
Mudbug: 15% of mac users on Tiger
Mudbug: expect Tiger to be 1/2 of installed base by this time next year
Mudbug: over last 5 years
Mudbug: 5 major versions of OS X
Mudbug: next release will be called Leopard
Mudbug: Transitive
Mudbug: 2 major transitions
Mudbug: so far
Mudbug: 10 years ago - mid 90's
Mudbug: team did a great job, even though Steve wasn't there
Mudbug: 2nd - even bigger
Mudbug: trans from OS 9 - OS X earlier this decade
Mudbug: Brain Transplant
Mudbug: worlds apart in technology
Mudbug: X most advanced on planet
Mudbug: Today - time to begin 3rd transition
Mudbug: constantly inventing best computers
Mudbug: move from PowerPC to Intel Processors
Mudbug: given to devs now for customers next year
Mudbug: Why another transition?
Mudbug: want best computers for end users
Mudbug: haven't been able to deliver what we wanted
Mudbug: no powerbook yet -
Mudbug: not the most important reasons
Mudbug: looking ahead
Mudbug: PPC products yet to come
Mudbug: don't know how to build with the future of PPC
Mudbug: PPC = PowerPC
Mudbug: performance for what - raw power?
Mudbug: future roadmap - 2006 & beyond
Mudbug: Intel roadmap is exceptional
Mudbug: tells us what we have to do
Mudbug: not going to be an overnight transition
Mudbug: will happen over a few years
Mudbug: great products now
Mudbug: great stuff in pipeline
Mudbug: introduce Mac for Intel processors next year
Mudbug: this time next year - plan is to ship macs w/ intel procs
Mudbug: complete transition by end of 2006
Mudbug: 2007*
Mudbug: whoops
Mudbug: PowerPC to Intel - 2 year transition
Mudbug: 2 major challenges
Mudbug: 1) making OS X think on intel procs
Mudbug: rumors about this
Mudbug: crowd laughs
Mudbug: rules are - design for OS X be processor independent
Mudbug: every release of OS X has been compiled for Intel x86 for the last 5 years
Mudbug: cross platform by design
Mudbug: from the very beginning
Mudbug: DEMO
Mudbug: all demos up to this point have been done on an intel proc
Mudbug: crowd amazed
 
Never thought I'd see the day...

... this is a fascinating development.

I WAS about to buy a G5 iMac. Now I need to think long and hard about my best move.

A big price drop would persuade me to purchase now.
 
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