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'Intel Based Mac' Rumor Roundup...

Mac-Xpert said:
Macrumorslive workes again for me.

What should I make of this:
5:33 pm most say intel rumors

Is he saying they are only rumors?
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No no, the RSS feeds he shows only mentions Intel rumours. He just said that all the demo he's been doing has been on Intel chips.
 
From Macnn:

Widget/Scripts/Java --> Just work. Cocoa --Xcode (tweaks, recompile) --> A few days. Carbon - Xcode (twek, recompile) --> A few weeks. Carbon Apps --Metroweks -- Jobs says to transfer to Xcode. Over half of 100 developers using Xcode. Nex Xcode 2.1 delivered today. News Xcode generates a single "universal binary" that supports both processors. Available to everybody at registration desk following the keynote. [10:37 am]

Mac OS X has been leading secret double life. Every Mac project build for Intel and PowerPC and Intel. Every release of Mac OS X has been built for both Intel and PowerPC-based Macs. For the last 5 years. Mac OS X is cross-platform by design. Apple's demo is on an Intel-based system. Jobs shows all Mac OS X Tiger features are already compatible with Intel-based processors. Not done yet. Will put into the developer hands to help Apple finish it. [10:32 am]

Two major transitions for Mac: 68K to PowerPC. Next Mac OS 9 to Mac OS X. Now time for third transition. Transition to Intel-based Macs. Developers Now. Next year for users. "Because we want to make the best computers for our customers." No G5 PowerBook yet. Future products can't be build on IBM of PowerPC. Intel has performance and better performance per watt. Intel delivers much better performance per watt. Starting next year the first Macs with Intel processors. Shipping by next WWDC. Mostly complete by 2007 WWDC. Complete by the end of 2007. Two-year transition. [10:28 am]
 
apelet said:
Macs on Intel

Mudbug: new site on Apple.com for widgets
MacRumor: shows Apple stories in RSS feed
Mudbug: 15% of mac users on Tiger
Mudbug: expect Tiger to be 1/2 of installed base by this time next year
Mudbug: over last 5 years
Mudbug: 5 major versions of OS X
Mudbug: next release will be called Leopard
Mudbug: Transitive
Mudbug: 2 major transitions
Mudbug: so far
Mudbug: 10 years ago - mid 90's
Mudbug: team did a great job, even though Steve wasn't there
Mudbug: 2nd - even bigger
Mudbug: trans from OS 9 - OS X earlier this decade
Mudbug: Brain Transplant
Mudbug: worlds apart in technology
Mudbug: X most advanced on planet
Mudbug: Today - time to begin 3rd transition
Mudbug: constantly inventing best computers
Mudbug: move from PowerPC to Intel Processors
Mudbug: given to devs now for customers next year
Mudbug: Why another transition?
Mudbug: want best computers for end users
Mudbug: haven't been able to deliver what we wanted
Mudbug: no powerbook yet -
Mudbug: not the most important reasons
Mudbug: looking ahead
Mudbug: PPC products yet to come
Mudbug: don't know how to build with the future of PPC
Mudbug: PPC = PowerPC
Mudbug: performance for what - raw power?
Mudbug: future roadmap - 2006 & beyond
Mudbug: Intel roadmap is exceptional
Mudbug: tells us what we have to do
Mudbug: not going to be an overnight transition
Mudbug: will happen over a few years
Mudbug: great products now
Mudbug: great stuff in pipeline
Mudbug: introduce Mac for Intel processors next year
Mudbug: this time next year - plan is to ship macs w/ intel procs
Mudbug: complete transition by end of 2006
Mudbug: 2007*
Mudbug: whoops
Mudbug: PowerPC to Intel - 2 year transition
Mudbug: 2 major challenges
Mudbug: 1) making OS X think on intel procs
Mudbug: rumors about this
Mudbug: crowd laughs
Mudbug: rules are - design for OS X be processor independent
Mudbug: every release of OS X has been compiled for Intel x86 for the last 5 years
Mudbug: cross platform by design
Mudbug: from the very beginning
Mudbug: DEMO
Mudbug: all demos up to this point have been done on an intel proc
Mudbug: crowd amazed
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could you please post more updates? Mine has frozen
 
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Mudbug: 2 major challenges
Mudbug: 1) making OS X think on intel procs
Mudbug: rumors about this
Mudbug: crowd laughs
Mudbug: rules are - design for OS X be processor independent
Mudbug: every release of OS X has been compiled for Intel x86 for the last 5 years
Mudbug: cross platform by design
Mudbug: from the very beginning
Mudbug: DEMO
Mudbug: all demos up to this point have been done on an intel proc
Mudbug: crowd amazed
Mudbug: everything is seemless
Mudbug: opens dashboard, mail, safari, widgets, etc.
*** maradong became a #MacRumors operator.
Mudbug: iPhoto running
Mudbug: 4000 photos in iphoto
Mudbug: hears "file's done"
Mudbug: video demo
Mudbug: OS X on Intel Processors
Mudbug: odd sigh of relief in room
Mudbug: Not done - will put in dev hands soon
Mudbug: how to make it work with your apps
Mudbug: separate code
Mudbug: xcode will compile for all
Mudbug: cocoa w/ minor tweeks and recompile - will work without a hitch
Mudbug: can be ready in a few dyas
Mudbug: days*
Mudbug: carbon will still take a few weeks to recompile - but xcode makes things faster
Mudbug: key is xcode
Mudbug: devs doing well on xcode
Mudbug: over 1/2 of software developers using xcode
Mudbug: somewhere around 80% have it running in some form or function
Mudbug: xcode 2.1 released
Mudbug: machine that pops down -
*** sparkleytone became a #MacRumors operator.
Mudbug: builds "universal binary"
Mudbug: one binary works on both PPC and Intel architecture
Mudbug: very large installed base
Mudbug: smaller on Intel - for now
Mudbug: ready immediately following keynote
Mudbug: let's see what we can do
 
Mac-Xpert said:
Macrumorslive workes again for me.

What should I make of this:
5:33 pm most say intel rumors

Is he saying they are only rumors?
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I know i couldnt figure out what he ment either ... everyones going to feel stupid if all this was just rumor
 
macrumorslive.com is, unfortunately, totally useless

Get your updates elsewhere, folks. I've had great results with Mac Observer.
 
Rosetta is a dymanic binary translator. Runs PowerPC code on Intel-baesd Macs. Transparent to users. Pretty fast. Jobs demos Rosetta used to run PowerPC macs on Intel-based Macs. Jobs shows Microsoft Excel/Word running on Intel-based Mac (without any porting and/or recompiling). [10:46 am]

[From Macnn]
 
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Dr.Gargoyle said:
could you please post more updates? Mine has frozen
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*** Mudbug became a #MacRumors operator.
Mudbug: sorry -
Mudbug: Wolfram Research guy on stage talking now
Mudbug: thx
Mudbug will kick for CTCP requests
Mudbug: 20 lines or so of code out of millions - recompile won't be hard for mathematica
Mudbug: something you haven'ts een
Mudbug: 1 calculation at a time previously
Mudbug: can now navigate through a world of calculations
Mudbug: based on new technology working on for many years
Mudbug: still talking about mathematica
Mudbug: thanks for the demo time - back to teh Steve
Mudbug: create universal binary - will let us move all of our apps over
Mudbug: tools are very pleasant to use
Mudbug: not every app will be this easy
Mudbug: what to do?
Mudbug: translate powerPC code translates inline to Intel
Mudbug: dynamic binary translator
Mudbug: transparent to the user
Mudbug: users are unaware of translation occuring
Mudbug: opening different PPC binaries on the Intel machine -
Mudbug: no noticable change
*** sparkleytone became a #MacRumors operator.
Mudbug: photoshop plug-ins for PPC binary translate without a hitch
Mudbug: demo works fine
Mudbug: will have for users of every app from day one - covers the bases
Mudbug: Mac on Intel
 
maveness said:
Get your updates elsewhere, folks. I've had great results with Mac Observer.
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So are people getting their fix somewhere else or is there anyone that wants me to keep posting the IRC?
 
Launch of Microsoft Office 2004 was best product launch for Mac OS X. New version of Messenger due for Macs in the next few months. Additionally, a new update for Exchange users. MacBU commits to delivering a "Universal Binary" for Microsoft Office. [10:52 am]
 
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Spanky Deluxe said:
keep posting!!
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Mudbug: xcode 2.1
Mudbug: developer transition kit
Mudbug: 3.64 Ghz P4
Mudbug: developer platform
Mudbug: ships just for developers
Mudbug: select & premier members only
Mudbug: $999
Mudbug: that section of keynote over
Mudbug: Most hearing about this for first time today
Mudbug: crowd laughs
Mudbug: Inviting Microsoft members onto the stage
Mudbug: Mac Business Unit folks
Mudbug: getting to be a habit to be here
Mudbug: involved in changes from Apple
Mudbug: exciting times for Apple customers
Mudbug: look forward to opportunities ahead
Mudbug: M$ has been making Mac software over 20 years
Mudbug: dedication in support is the essence of software they make
Mudbug: mac only features important
Mudbug: __name of tranlator program is "Rosetta" - couldn't hear before
Mudbug: working closely with engineers for xcode
Mudbug: Mac group and Apple evolving relationship - look forward to new applications for a great platform
Knox: mud..
Mudbug: back to his Steveness
Mudbug: ya
Knox: msgs
Mudbug: k
Mudbug: someone else on stage
Mudbug: Adobe rep
 
MacRohde said:
Uhm...it is confirmed in the live feed.
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I'm sorry. I was looking at macrumorslive which doesn't show it.

I saw mudbugs covering and really have a hard time digesting this news
:eek:

No more PPC, I think it's a big mistake. I think we can all guess what will happen next, Apple switches to x86 Intel, and Intel stalls getting stuck at x.x Ghz while Microsoft switches windows to PPC introducing windows running on 6 Ghz PPC boxes :rolleyes:
 
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