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Intel CEO Hopes to Win Back Apple by Making Better Chips Than Apple
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Apple has used multiple different chips and architectures over the decades. Intel was a big part of Apple's resurgence. As always with processors, there are peaks and valleys for everyone. Remember when AMD was dead? Intel will be just fine if you remember that Apple is about 8% of the computer market.
Did I say anything about YOUR soft skills? I don’t even know who you are or even if you’re an engineer.
I said MY experience with engineers. Yours very likely may vary.But your statement was about all engineers. Not engineers that you know.Did I say anything about YOUR soft skills? I don’t even know who you are or even if you’re an engineer.
I suspect if Apple ever makes a CPU that can compete with high-end x86 desktop CPUs in terms of raw power it will use just as much power as Intel's/AMD's, expecially now that x86 CPUs with big/little design with efficiency cores are becoming available (Intel Alder Lake). Also, the CPU is not the only power consumer in a complete system.
Apple going back to Intel?
Sure... right after Elon puts a gas engine in a Tesla...
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Sure... right after Elon puts a gas engine in a Tesla...
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In my follow up to you I clarified, to you that what I said was based on my experience with actual engineers. If you’ve had a different experience, good for you! However, based on what I see coming out of Intel… he’s no Lisa Su.
All engineers aren’t the same. I’m sure SOME are doctors. However, if you asked my opinion of whom you should hire to head your hospital, an accomplished medical doctor or an accomplished engineer, I’d say “Hire the accomplished medical doctor”… that’s not stereotyping engineers to say so.
I’m sure Intel will do just fine. My point is that Apple is not going back to Intel. They want to control every part of their products and they finally have control over the timing and spec of CPU. Why would they want to throw this away? No chance. Intel can do whatever they want. It doesn’t matter to Apple now. Just like how your ex can date anyone she wants. It doesn’t matter to you anymore.
You're probably right but never say never. Microsoft is going to do its own silicon, and Google will next week as well. I guess it's the new business model of choice, until the next one.
Yeah, my comment didn't age very well. You nailed it! 🤣
Maybe he'll put an Intel fab'ed FSD chip in a Tesla.
I think Intel's strategy for the next 5 years should be 1) fill the domestic backlog of silicon fabrication that doesn't require the smallest process and milk the government 2) let TSMC fab your most advanced chips 3) figure out your next leapfrog move.
Intel could lean on Optane to drive a revolution in unified RAM and storage, or if they are real lucky they have a quantum computing breakthrough hiding in an underground R&D lab somewhere. I just don't know if there are enough geniuses left at Intel for that.
After the M1 Max reveal today, I can't even wait to see what they do with the Mac Pro. M2 Max w/ 32 CPU cores and 128 GPU cores?! We will see next summer.
Apple told Intel it needed better processors 17 years ago. Intel never really delivered what Apple wanted, especially the past 10 years or so. I can't see Apple working with them again anytime soon.
In a new episode of Axios on HBO shared by MarketWatch, Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger sat down with Axios' Chief Technology Correspondent Ina Fried to discuss various topics, including Apple's transition to its own custom-designed silicon chips across its Mac lineup.
When asked if Intel has given up on the idea of the Mac running on Intel processors in the future, Gelsinger said that he hopes to win back this segment of Apple's business over time by outcompeting the company in chipmaking.
In the interview, Gelsinger acknowledged Intel's "stumbles" and said the company will "fight hard" to win back Apple's business by making better chips than Apple:In June 2020, Apple announced that it would be transitioning the Mac from Intel processors to its own custom-designed silicon chips, promising industry-leading performance per watt and improved graphics. The transition to Apple silicon began with the M1 chip in the MacBook Air, lower-end 13-inch MacBook Pro, and lower-end Mac mini in November 2020, and Apple said the transition would take around two years to be completed.
Intel has a lot of catching up to do if it aims to outclass Apple silicon, as benchmarks revealed that the MacBook Air with an M1 chip and a starting price of $999 outperforms a maxed-out Intel-based 16-inch MacBook Pro priced at $2,999.
In the meantime, Intel has been running ads promoting Windows PCs over Macs, and it even recruited former "I'm a Mac" actor Justin Long for the campaign.
The transition to Apple silicon is set to continue at Apple's virtual "Unleashed" event tomorrow, with the company widely expected to unveil redesigned 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with a faster version of the M1 chip. The notebooks are also rumored to feature brighter mini-LED displays, an HDMI port and SD card slot, and a magnetic power cable, while the Touch Bar is expected to be removed in favor of physical Fn keys.
Intel still supplies processors for some other Macs, including the 27-inch iMac and the Mac Pro, but those models are expected to adopt Apple silicon by next year.
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Especially now that some of what Apple’s going to want in ANY SoC is going to be hardware accelerated ProRES. The BEST Intel can hope for is to just be a foundry for Apple.
No way is Apple going to ever turn their backs on all their devs and abandon PPC.
I mean 32bit apps.
I mean Intel.
...I mean ARM.
lol
I mean 32bit apps.
I mean Intel.
...I mean ARM.
lol
That would explain why their chips runs so hot... I'll show myself out.
I guarantee you it doesn’t beat the Max in ’currently shipping in devices’. It also doesn’t beat the Max in processing 8k ProRes video.
Especially in sustained performance and we are talking about professional computers not laptops. The new alderlake chips beat anything out right now. They are shipping now and all benchmarks will be posted Nov 4th when nda is up. Just wait for Anand to review it.
I mean Newegg has shipped a few cpus early but they are out Nov 4th.