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Benchmarks!!!!
It's nice to see the hardware shipping in Early November. I was expecting just before the end of the month. Barefeats and MacWorld should be covering the benches we want. Seeing desktop processors in the iMac is a nice change over the mobile components. Though we're still stuck with the mobile GPUs.

I hate to say it but why is there not an i6? Does it have anything to do with the Tick/Tock processor rollout from Intel?
There's a Core i6 now?
 
Are you kidding?

ATI Radeon 4850? Really? I thought we are in 2009 and 5XXX series are already getting deployed by PC makers. The pace of technological development in Apple land must be really slow

Although I have to say it comes handy to chip manufactures since they can dump their old outdated hardware to Apple buyers and charge them twice. They know nobody buys obsolete hardware in PC land....

the ATI Radeon HD 4850 is a really good graphics card.
just look at this chart: Go Here
Besides Apple computers are currently cheaper than PCs,
And the pace of technological development in Apple is way faster than other companies.
 
the ATI Radeon HD 4850 is a really good graphics card.
just look at this chart: Go Here

This chart seems to be making the point of the OP - the 5850 is about twice the performance. A quick Google search indicates the retail price is about $100 more than the 4850, (So $50 more OEM?) - it does seem a shame not to have it in the quad.

Can someone here explain the difference in performance the video card makes to NOT gaming? (But rather image editing: e.g., Aperture & Photoshop.)

Does Snow Leopard use the GPU for "general" processing? I remember a utility you could run that allowed 10.5 to use the GPU for some tasks...
 
i5 shipping!!

That is good news. I am anxiously waiting for an i7 to be shipped. It will be a long month.
 
the ATI Radeon HD 4850 is a really good graphics card.
just look at this chart: Go Here
Besides Apple computers are currently cheaper than PCs,
And the pace of technological development in Apple is way faster than other companies.

Yeah the pace is much faster

)PCs had quad core chips since 2007 (for $250) while first imacs with quad core are just coming out

)PCs had i7 920 processor since November 2008 while Mac had their first Mac Pro (which is a Xeon branded 920) in 2009

)PCs had 4850 since 2008 and now they are using 5870, 5850, 5770 and 5750. 4850 is considered obsolete in PC land

)Windows 7 supports TRIM natively for flash drives; something that mac OSX lacks

)No Blu-ray on macs

)No e-SATA

Yeah Macs are really ahead when it comes to using yesterday's technology
 
This chart seems to be making the point of the OP - the 5850 is about twice the performance. A quick Google search indicates the retail price is about $100 more than the 4850, (So $50 more OEM?) - it does seem a shame not to have it in the quad.

Can someone here explain the difference in performance the video card makes to NOT gaming? (But rather image editing: e.g., Aperture & Photoshop.)

Does Snow Leopard use the GPU for "general" processing? I remember a utility you could run that allowed 10.5 to use the GPU for some tasks...

For anything not gaming, 4850 is fine

You'd need a better GPU if

)You're a gamer
)You do folding on the GPU and you want fast performance
)You want a faster GPU for future GPU applications

For everyday task including photoshop, 4850 is plenty
 
ATI Radeon 4850? Really? I thought we are in 2009 and 5XXX series are already getting deployed by PC makers. The pace of technological development in Apple land must be really slow

Although I have to say it comes handy to chip manufactures since they can dump their old outdated hardware to Apple buyers and charge them twice. They know nobody buys obsolete hardware in PC land....

the imac 27 has a 27" inch screen IPS dont you no what is IPS?? its quality , its professional hardware and its a piece of design and a great os. not cheap crap like pcs.
 
the imac 27 has a 27" inch screen IPS dont you no what is IPS?? its quality , its professional hardware and its a piece of design and a great os. not cheap crap like pcs.
The same distinction could be made for the HD 4850 since it's over a year old and considered a budget component.
 
+1

Exactly what blows me away with these machines. Everything is great looking and that 27 inch screen is awesome. I go to the spec page and my jaw drops. A 4850 powering that screen!! There goes my dream of a perfect dual boot computer.

haven't been watching the graphics card scene, the '4850' is a bad card? is there a bto version?

is the 4850 good enough for after effects, fcp, 3d graphics?
 
Yeah the pace is much faster

)PCs had quad core chips since 2007 (for $250) while first imacs with quad core are just coming out

)PCs had i7 920 processor since November 2008 while Mac had their first Mac Pro (which is a Xeon branded 920) in 2009

)PCs had 4850 since 2008 and now they are using 5870, 5850, 5770 and 5750. 4850 is considered obsolete in PC land

)Windows 7 supports TRIM natively for flash drives; something that mac OSX lacks

)No Blu-ray on macs

)No e-SATA

Yeah Macs are really ahead when it comes to using yesterday's technology

how much is the cost of a monitor 27" inch IPS dont you no what is IPS ??? you can buy one and try to bulit in your pc in there behind the monitor , see how much you spend....:D
 
haven't been watching the graphics card scene, the '4850' is a bad card? is there a bto version?
The HD 4850 is a midrange performer around $100 for 1680 x 1050 gaming. It's from June 2008 in its desktop incarnation as well.

ATI has already released the HD 5000 Series and nVidia offers more powerful cards.
 
how much is the cost of a monitor 27" inch IPS dont you no what is IPS ??? you can buy one and try to bulit in your pc in there behind the monitor , see how much you spend....:D

Considering over 90% of the world purchase and choose Windows over Macs on a daily basis and world's biggest corporations run their company on PCs, I'd say it appears than an overwhelmingly large number of people in the world choose a proper hardware over an obsolete overpriced piece of a computer even if it has a quality IPS screen because you know people do stuff with their computer and want to be fast rather staring at a screen

It hurts when 90% of the world flat out rejects you in a market you created yourself!

And by the way, it's not about being cheap. It's about Value. People are not in the habit of paying twice for something. Specially that $2000 computer that is unable to run flash properly!
 
Yes yes yes can we now fail in peace with our beloved overhyped underpowered ripoff toys? I'm sure you can get more frags per second somewhere else.
 
Considering over 90% of the world purchase and choose Windows over Macs on a daily basis and world's biggest corporations run their company on PCs, I'd say it appears than an overwhelmingly large number of people in the world choose a proper hardware over an obsolete overpriced piece of a computer even if it has a quality IPS screen because you know people do stuff with their computer and want to be fast rather staring at a screen

It hurts when 90% of the world flat out rejects you in a market you created yourself!

And by the way, it's not about being cheap. It's about Value. People are not in the habit of paying twice for something. Specially that $2000 computer that is unable to run flash properly!

Yes, you are certainly right. The same way the rest of the world rejects Ferrari or Bugatti, or even BMW cars. Because they are obviously inferior to a Ford, or Kia.... OR It could be people buy what they can afford. Just because the "majority" of people buy something doesn't make it better. Have fun being a sheep buying what everyone else buys. I prefer a quality piece of equipment, with a quality OS, and quality aesthetics. That may not be everyone's experience, but it is mine. My teams support thousands of Windows machines every day and I have any combination of power or config at my fingertips to buy and test. At the end of the day I go home to my Mac. It works well in ALL aspects of computing, not just the cheapest box of hardware that could be cobbled together.
 
ATI Radeon 4850? Really? I thought we are in 2009 and 5XXX series are already getting deployed by PC makers. The pace of technological development in Apple land must be really slow

Although I have to say it comes handy to chip manufactures since they can dump their old outdated hardware to Apple buyers and charge them twice. They know nobody buys obsolete hardware in PC land....

Welcome to two weeks ago, when this was already covered.
 
Yes yes yes can we now fail in peace with our beloved overhyped underpowered ripoff toys? I'm sure you can get more frags per second somewhere else.

More framerates. Exclusive Pro software such as AutoCADand many more. Did I mention all the big companies in the world DEPEND on Microsoft?

So yeah. Stick to those overpriced oboslete toys. There is a reason that only 4% for the world is willing to bend over for such a rip off!

By the way, how is the iDelete feature in OSX coming along? or the new feature in Apple TV that deletes your content? It Just Works!
 
For anything not gaming, 4850 is fine

You'd need a better GPU if

) Want to play modern complex 3D games on your new $2000+ home computer
)You do folding on the GPU and you want fast performance
)You want a faster GPU for future GPU applications

For everyday task including photoshop, 4850 is plenty

There, fixed that for you
 
Considering over 90% of the world purchase and choose Windows over Macs on a daily basis and world's biggest corporations run their company on PCs, I'd say it appears than an overwhelmingly large number of people in the world choose a proper hardware over an obsolete overpriced piece of a computer even if it has a quality IPS screen because you know people do stuff with their computer and want to be fast rather staring at a screen

It hurts when 90% of the world flat out rejects you in a market you created yourself!

And by the way, it's not about being cheap. It's about Value. People are not in the habit of paying twice for something. Specially that $2000 computer that is unable to run flash properly!

dont talk about value.... your $2000 pc will cost less than $1000 in 6 months
and a imac still worth a lot after few years

90% of the people you talking , at least 40% dont now what they are buying. you are part of the 40% im sure.
 
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