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Intel Core i5 Quad-Core iMac Begins Shipping

6-12 months is a good guess. Usually trickles down in a revision or two. 21.5" core i7 would be one bad ass little machine.


meli said:
Anyone care to take an educated guess as to when we'll see i5's and/or i7's in 21-inch iMacs? Are there currently any smaller All-In-One PC's with an i7 or i5?

I'd love the power of an i7, but I don't need, or even want, a 27-inch screen. I'd actually prefer a 17-inch screen, but I know heat is an issue.
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I've done it both ways, I know that i'm getting certain limitations and I'm paying more and so on and so on, call me a sucker but I can just tell you that my experience has been much more positive on practically every level in the long run, and that is MY personal experience. Given that, i will invest money in another Apple computer, and trust me i considered every alternative for what i should do with my hard earned money. It's worth it to me - period. end.

Anyyyyways..... i just came on here to see if anyone got any emails about their i7 shipping. I understand that the holdup is on the graphics card so i would imagine that if the i5s are shipping then the i7s are too? Maybe just wishful thinking but yea...
 
Bubba Satori said:
Nope, same software as Mac folks, only a lot more of it. And often times, more up to date versions too. :D
"The hardware is useless" ? Well, if you're going to be a drama queen and over react, might as well go all the way.
More variety, more choices, more bang for the buck. Oh the huge Manatee.

PC design doesn't exist ? :rolleyes: PCs come in hundreds if not thousands of different configuration and case designs that come in new colors and varieties practically every month. The four Apple computers have had the same, boring, stale look for three years. Where's that much talked about innovation ? :confused:
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Is a green colored iMac too much to ask for? It would go so nice with my forest themed room. :D
 
LagunaSol said:
I would love to see a good-looking PC. The HP Blackbird was OK. Most of it looks like complete and utter crap. Seriously.

And slapping a new color and screenprint on a laptop lid (which pretty much sums up Dell's industrial design efforts, except for the I-want-to-be-a-MacBook-Air Adamo) is innovation in your mind? Really?

I'd rather have good-looking design for 3 years (the Apple world) than crap designs unleashed every 3 months (the PC world).

Frankly, the current Mac Pro and the current MacBook Pro could go a decade in their current forms and I'd love them just as much. They're just that good.

Timeless design is...timeless.
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Isn't that subjective, though? I mean, do you really think any computer that isn't aluminum just looks like crap? :confused:

I don't want a macbook that reminds me of my Bosch dishwasher, but then again, that's just me...
 
TennisandMusic said:
Man some of you guys make me embarrassed to use a mac.

Apple hardware is certainly no better than PC hardware. My 1k PC kicks the pants off a 3k mac pro, both performance and hardware quality wise (of course I built it myself).
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Wow, you can build an awesome computer! Congrats!!

OSX is no better than Windows 7, in general, and in many ways is quite a bit behind.
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Neither is better than the other, just different.

Some of you guys really need to take the blinders off. This whole "I come home and my computer just works!" bit is hilarious, and more than a bit tired. My PC's have WAY less trouble than my macs. My PC "just works." My macbook pro (2009 model) is slow, and doesn't allow me to do some basic things (like easily edit avchd video, or you know...CUT and paste). I think some of you guys think Windows is still on version "95".
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Thanks for the personal anecdote. My Macs just work, sorry if that's a cliche for you, but it's true. I realize it's not that way for everyone, but it is for me. If you can't edit AVCHD video and can't cut and paste, you might want to either learn how to use the computer or take it in to get it fixed.

Apple truly has their diehards in a vice. They provide inferior mass produced hardware at boutique prices, with a decent OS, put them in very nice designs and people eat it up.
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Which hardware is better? Dell? Not really. HP? Absolutely not. Lenovo? Probably on par with their Thinkpads.

I also find it funny that some people actually call Windows users "sheep" when you can generally do anything you want with Windows, on any hardware, but if you want Apple you gotta do it the Steve Jobs way, and that is the ONLY way. By definition Apple users (or ones who ONLY use that, I use OSX but I don't drink the kool-aid) are much more akin to sheep than windows users.

Some of you guys just need to get out more. Take a breath. Etc.
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Sounds like Macs aren't for you, and that's fine. How about selling it, and quit whining about it?

I don't drink the Kool Aid either, and I use more than just OS X. But really the concept of someone having a bad experience about an OS or product and suddenly everyone else who likes it are fanboys or sheep is ridiculous.
 
People that own macintosh computers usually love them. they usually love the company. the even love the CEO. no other technology company has such an emotionally invested consumer base. I had pc's from win 98se to vista and now 7. walk up to ten diff pc owners and say "so you're working on windows" and see the apathetic response they give you. next go to 10 mac users and say "so you use mac huh?" and the consistent response is a smile followed with some words to express the fondness they have for their product. If they are fools and idiots then let em be. it's ok to think different.
 
j-traxx said:
People that own macintosh computers usually love them. they usually love the company. the even love the CEO. no other technology company has such an emotionally invested consumer base. I had pc's from win 98se to vista and now 7. walk up to ten diff pc owners and say "so you're working on windows" and see the apathetic response they give you. next go to 10 mac users and say "so you use mac huh?" and the consistent response is a smile followed with some words to express the fondness they have for their product. If they are fools and idiots then let em be. it's ok to think different.
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SJ's bed is so comfy. Its like I'm sleeping on air...
 
Wakashizuma said:
Considering over 90% of the world purchase and choose Windows over Macs on a daily basis and world's biggest corporations run their company on PCs, I'd say it appears than an overwhelmingly large number of people in the world choose a proper hardware over an obsolete overpriced piece of a computer even if it has a quality IPS screen because you know people do stuff with their computer and want to be fast rather staring at a screen

It hurts when 90% of the world flat out rejects you in a market you created yourself!

And by the way, it's not about being cheap. It's about Value. People are not in the habit of paying twice for something. Specially that $2000 computer that is unable to run flash properly!
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/shoo away :mad:.. If you wanna troll here, just **** and take your piece of garbage of an opinion elsewhere..
 
Wakashizuma said:
Yeah the pace is much faster

)PCs had quad core chips since 2007 (for $250) while first imacs with quad core are just coming out

)PCs had i7 920 processor since November 2008 while Mac had their first Mac Pro (which is a Xeon branded 920) in 2009

)PCs had 4850 since 2008 and now they are using 5870, 5850, 5770 and 5750. 4850 is considered obsolete in PC land

)Windows 7 supports TRIM natively for flash drives; something that mac OSX lacks

)No Blu-ray on macs

)No e-SATA

Yeah Macs are really ahead when it comes to using yesterday's technology
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You forgot to mention 6 core gulftown CPU's in a couple months.
 
organerito said:
Yes, Windows 7 just works. It has some little bugs, but nothing as embarrassing and mediocre as the SL bugs.
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What're some known bugs with Windows 7? All I've noticed was the occasional freeze on my laptop if I turn off wifi before opening it back up and waking it from sleep.
 
i7 is on the way too?

just checked my order. although it still said my i7 will be shipped in november, i couldnt change or cancel my order any more. may be its already under production. :)
 
Even though the CPU in the new 27" is desktop, isnt the gfx still a mobile version?

Have Ati even released a mobile 5850?
 
j-traxx said:
People that own macintosh computers usually love them. they usually love the company. the even love the CEO. no other technology company has such an emotionally invested consumer base. .
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There is a medical term for this type of problem.

Honestly, the ones who fall under your description worry me more than millions of unprotected windows machines.
 
Ironduke said:
Even though the CPU in the new 27" is desktop, isnt the gfx still a mobile version?

Have Ati even released a mobile 5850?
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Based on a Youtube video from Europe (was it a Dane?) the hex numbering was declared to be a mobile unit.
 
johnrs said:
be interesting to see if anyone from the UK or Europe has received shipping confirmation..
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I ordered the big one, a quad core 27" within hours of the UK Apple Store re-opening on launch day. I haven't had any shipping notice yet!

I just called Apple and they say I have a order commitment date of 25th November which apparently is still not cast in stone :-(
 
Wakashizuma said:
ATI Radeon 4850? Really? I thought we are in 2009 and 5XXX series are already getting deployed by PC makers. The pace of technological development in Apple land must be really slow

Although I have to say it comes handy to chip manufactures since they can dump their old outdated hardware to Apple buyers and charge them twice. They know nobody buys obsolete hardware in PC land....
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Shiner said:
+1

Exactly what blows me away with these machines. Everything is great looking and that 27 inch screen is awesome. I go to the spec page and my jaw drops. A 4850 powering that screen!! There goes my dream of a perfect dual boot computer.
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bertman said:
This chart seems to be making the point of the OP - the 5850 is about twice the performance. A quick Google search indicates the retail price is about $100 more than the 4850, (So $50 more OEM?) - it does seem a shame not to have it in the quad.

Can someone here explain the difference in performance the video card makes to NOT gaming? (But rather image editing: e.g., Aperture & Photoshop.)

Does Snow Leopard use the GPU for "general" processing? I remember a utility you could run that allowed 10.5 to use the GPU for some tasks...
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Wakashizuma said:
Yeah the pace is much faster

)PCs had quad core chips since 2007 (for $250) while first imacs with quad core are just coming out

)PCs had i7 920 processor since November 2008 while Mac had their first Mac Pro (which is a Xeon branded 920) in 2009

)PCs had 4850 since 2008 and now they are using 5870, 5850, 5770 and 5750. 4850 is considered obsolete in PC land

)Windows 7 supports TRIM natively for flash drives; something that mac OSX lacks

)No Blu-ray on macs

)No e-SATA

Yeah Macs are really ahead when it comes to using yesterday's technology
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Eidorian said:
The HD 4850 is a midrange performer around $100 for 1680 x 1050 gaming. It's from June 2008 in its desktop incarnation as well.

ATI has already released the HD 5000 Series and nVidia offers more powerful cards.
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German said:
The 4850 in the iMac is the mobility Version (even slower).
I think the 5xxxx mobility isn't out yet?
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The only currently shipping mobile product from AMD faster than the Mobility Radeon HD 4850 is the Mobility Radeon HD 4870.

Unfortunately there isn't a Mobility Radeon HD 5xxx series until probably early next year, so the iMac had to stay with the Mobility Radeon HD 48x0 series. NVIDIA wasn't an option due to various reasons.
 
Pressure said:
The only currently shipping mobile product from AMD faster than the Mobility Radeon HD 4850 is the Mobility Radeon HD 4870.

Unfortunately there isn't a Mobility Radeon HD 5xxx series until probably early next year, so the iMac had to stay with the Mobility Radeon HD 48x0 series. NVIDIA wasn't an option due to various reasons.
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How dare you use facts instead of wild ass speculation and conjecture!
 
VoR said:
Various reasons? :)
And...They have to use a mobile chip?
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Traditionally Apple has used mobile chips for both the CPU and GPU in the iMac lineup. Just because they are able to use a desktop CPU in the 27" doesn't mean that they could automatically start using a desktop GPU as well.

I don't know the specifics, but my educated guess is that the heat of a desktop CPU and GPU would push the machine over the edge into unreliable territory without increased cooling capacity. And Apple has never been into the whole "shove a bunch of fans into the machine to cool it down" philosophy. So to keep the machine running quiet (which may or may not matter to some customers -- but that's beyond the point) they stuck with a mobile GPU instead.
 
SmileyDude said:
Traditionally Apple has used mobile chips for both the CPU and GPU in the iMac lineup. Just because they are able to use a desktop CPU in the 27" doesn't mean that they could automatically start using a desktop GPU as well.

I don't know the specifics, but my educated guess is that the heat of a desktop CPU and GPU would push the machine over the edge into unreliable territory without increased cooling capacity. And Apple has never been into the whole "shove a bunch of fans into the machine to cool it down" philosophy. So to keep the machine running quiet (which may or may not matter to some customers -- but that's beyond the point) they stuck with a mobile GPU instead.
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I know what apple have done traditionally, but is using a mobile gpu what makes the imac the imac?
Many people said they couldn't use desktop cpus because of heat restraints, that's obviously changed now.
You're right, apple have never been one to shove a load of fans into a machine to cool it - they seem to let their machines run hot. It's not like 'a load of fans' means you've got a loud machine anyway, again it's form factor issue.
The heatsinks in imacs have never been particularly impressive, especially considering what they're trying to achieve with the size of the case. My point is that it's their machine, they can obviously design and build it with any components - putting a desktop chip on their own board I would assume costs more than integrating a reference design off mobile specs, to cool a chip you just need a lump of copper and some airflow... Marketing>Cost>Looks>everything else
 
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I've have/had PC's and MAC's and - overall - I prefer MAC.

This nouveau uber-focus upon Graphics Cards seems a tad over the top..

The 4850 ain't the world's biggest&fastest GPU,
yet it ain't iShabby by any means.. !!!

AND, has any PC manufacturer yet offered
a close-comparable-to an -> i7 - 27" iMac All-in-One?

AND, one which sports a GPU clearly superior to the 4850?

iThink Forever Whiny SpeedFreak PeeCee Trolls
should be given the ass-spanking that they're begging for,
and THEN be Forever Banned to NeverLand... :D

ELSE, purchase an :apple: MacPro like us nouveau riche folk do... :p

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