fredsarran
macrumors 6502
Wow,... in PC land you have great hardware for peanuts... but you have sh...t software. So it basically makes the hardware useless in my opinion. Oh and in PC land, design does not exist !
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Wow,... in PC land you have great hardware for peanuts... but you have sh...t software. So it basically makes the hardware useless in my opinion. Oh and in PC land, design does not exist !
iMac i7 for 3D Animation
I'm worried about the GPU in this thing for 3D modeling/animation and video editing. I'm sure I'm not alone.
Anyone use a similar config for 3D?
I'm worried about the GPU in this thing for 3D modeling/animation and video editing. I'm sure I'm not alone.
Anyone use a similar config for 3D?
fredsarran
macrumors 6502
Apple is not God, and does make errors hardware and software's, like every maker and developer on this planet. They use not the latest hardware on the market, and they certainly does not use Microsoft.
Yes it is overpriced, but I am willing to pay this and more for a reliable computer. I have been a Windows user for a long time, and it would crash at least 5 times a day. My iMac might crash once a month when doing something very demanding.
Nearly all the big companies uses a PC, and they have a massive support team behind them for all the problems they encounter with there PC's )they certainly create jobs). BUT most creative professionals (photos, movies, music, press industries) uses MACS.
So please leave us alone and play your games with your super over powered mind blowing PC because I clearly do not envy you.
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TennisandMusic
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Man some of you guys make me embarrassed to use a mac.
Apple hardware is certainly no better than PC hardware. My 1k PC kicks the pants off a 3k mac pro, both performance and hardware quality wise (of course I built it myself).
OSX is no better than Windows 7, in general, and in many ways is quite a bit behind.
Apple writes some of the buggiest software I have ever seen, and completely drags rear on their "pro apps."
Some of you guys really need to take the blinders off. This whole "I come home and my computer just works!" bit is hilarious, and more than a bit tired. My PC's have WAY less trouble than my macs. My PC "just works." My macbook pro (2009 model) is slow, and doesn't allow me to do some basic things (like easily edit avchd video, or you know...CUT and paste). I think some of you guys think Windows is still on version "95".
Apple truly has their diehards in a vice. They provide inferior mass produced hardware at boutique prices, with a decent OS, put them in very nice designs and people eat it up. I also find it funny that some people actually call Windows users "sheep" when you can generally do anything you want with Windows, on any hardware, but if you want Apple you gotta do it the Steve Jobs way, and that is the ONLY way. By definition Apple users (or ones who ONLY use that, I use OSX but I don't drink the kool-aid) are much more akin to sheep than windows users.
Some of you guys just need to get out more. Take a breath. Etc.
Apple hardware is certainly no better than PC hardware. My 1k PC kicks the pants off a 3k mac pro, both performance and hardware quality wise (of course I built it myself).
OSX is no better than Windows 7, in general, and in many ways is quite a bit behind.
Apple writes some of the buggiest software I have ever seen, and completely drags rear on their "pro apps."
Some of you guys really need to take the blinders off. This whole "I come home and my computer just works!" bit is hilarious, and more than a bit tired. My PC's have WAY less trouble than my macs. My PC "just works." My macbook pro (2009 model) is slow, and doesn't allow me to do some basic things (like easily edit avchd video, or you know...CUT and paste). I think some of you guys think Windows is still on version "95".
Apple truly has their diehards in a vice. They provide inferior mass produced hardware at boutique prices, with a decent OS, put them in very nice designs and people eat it up. I also find it funny that some people actually call Windows users "sheep" when you can generally do anything you want with Windows, on any hardware, but if you want Apple you gotta do it the Steve Jobs way, and that is the ONLY way. By definition Apple users (or ones who ONLY use that, I use OSX but I don't drink the kool-aid) are much more akin to sheep than windows users.
Some of you guys just need to get out more. Take a breath. Etc.
Bubba Satori
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That was a nice, mid-range card last year. It will do the job. Just seems a shame on a brand new computer that you might keep for the next three or four years, that you can't have a new 5800. But this is par for the course for Apple as far as video cards goes. I bet they got those year old ATIs dirt cheap, too. Great for margins and most users won't care.
My guess is you should be fine. C4D doesn't see any real benefit on workstation class video cards on Windows or Mac systems. After Effects will fly, Photoshop should be just fine.
But wait a little while for the iMac Cinebench numbers to get released. It's what I'm waiting for. 😉
What better way to make your final point than with a long winded rant on a forum for computers you don't like?
Bubba Satori
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Nope, same software as Mac folks, only a lot more of it. And often times, more up to date versions too. 😀
"The hardware is useless" ? Well, if you're going to be a drama queen and over react, might as well go all the way.
More variety, more choices, more bang for the buck. Oh the huge Manatee.
PC design doesn't exist ? 🙄 PCs come in hundreds if not thousands of different configuration and case designs that come in new colors and varieties practically every month. The four Apple computers have had the same, boring, stale look for three years. Where's that much talked about innovation ? 😕
hold your horses... dont make another mac vs pc fight again and again, im sick and tired
new imacs are shipping anyone getting another confirmation.
new imacs are shipping anyone getting another confirmation.
CQd44
macrumors 6502a
Think different means to have one of the four possible designs and having to share those with millions of others, obviously.
cmvsm
macrumors 6502a
No doubt PC hardware is state of the art, however....it means squat when the OS sucks balls.
LagunaSol
macrumors 601
I would love to see a good-looking PC. The HP Blackbird was OK. Most of it looks like complete and utter crap. Seriously.
And slapping a new color and screenprint on a laptop lid (which pretty much sums up Dell's industrial design efforts, except for the I-want-to-be-a-MacBook-Air Adamo) is innovation in your mind? Really?
I'd rather have good-looking design for 3 years (the Apple world) than crap designs unleashed every 3 months (the PC world).
Frankly, the current Mac Pro and the current MacBook Pro could go a decade in their current forms and I'd love them just as much. They're just that good.
Timeless design is...timeless.
Quasi26
macrumors member
I will asume the "sheep" comment was directed at me. I did not call every windows user a sheep, I use it as well. However if the argument is "Use windows because everyone else does" then yes, you are a sheep. Use what you need, not what "90%" of others use.
As for it just work, for me it does, your milage may vary. However working in IT and using all flavors of Windows, Unix and OSX daily, I happen to find my OSX config just works.
As for hardware, while I read many message boards complaining about hardware, in my 10 years with Apple hardware, they have been very solid. Not perfect but solid.
As for Windows, Windows 7 is fantastic. Its on all of my Windows machines and so far has been rock solid for me. Unfortunately it has been generally available for a few weeks, and available to businesses since august. Lets give it a little more time before proclaiming it the second coming.
LagunaSol
macrumors 601
Agreed. It's a real kick in the stones that Apple continues its tradition of putting non-cutting-edge GPUs in its cutting-edge computers. Good grief, a GT 120 in the Mac Pro??? The same 4850 from the last iMac revision in the new droolworthy 27" models?
Shame. 🙁
Guess I'll wait for the next revision.
i think we have seen the windows community coming where a lot to see whats going on in so well talk macworld reviews.
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Yes, Windows 7 just works. It has some little bugs, but nothing as embarrassing and mediocre as the SL bugs.
That shows what you know. I have a new Dell advertising brochure here that has an "iMac clone" which uses an ATI HD4570 graphics card .. which is ranked as number 221 on that table that someone else linked to.
None of the other desktop machines in the brochure even list a graphics card, although one does say "Onboard Intel X4500 graphics controller" and a couple of othres do have an "recommended upgrade" to a nVIDIA E8400.
As much as I'd have liked to have seen an option such as the 58** series when spec'ing out the 27" iMac, the reality is, TSMC yields for 40nm GPUs have been atrocious, to say the least, and thus we'd likely be looking at even worse delays in terms of new iMacs shipping out for those who configured them with 58** series GPUs.
And for most non-GPU intensive tasks, the 4850 should be fine with the 27" screen.
However, that having been said, it does seem like Apple was fairly lazy in the design & development department, as you would have thought they could have provided at least some type of better BTO option (given that they had to spend design time for getting the i5/i7 into the iMac case, they could have engineered a better BTO option during that time also).
Ultimately though (and no offense to those who do limited gaming), but the iMacs just aren't good gaming platforms. It's mediocre, but you'd have to have a fairly "low" resolution (think 1680x1050) to not have to suffer horrendously when playing any of the latest games at moderately-high graphics settings on the 4850 or other cards. The fact Apple keeps using mid-range GPUs for high-resolution monitors, shows they don't really care about whether people game or do GPU-intensive tasks on the iMac or not, lol.
And for most non-GPU intensive tasks, the 4850 should be fine with the 27" screen.
However, that having been said, it does seem like Apple was fairly lazy in the design & development department, as you would have thought they could have provided at least some type of better BTO option (given that they had to spend design time for getting the i5/i7 into the iMac case, they could have engineered a better BTO option during that time also).
Ultimately though (and no offense to those who do limited gaming), but the iMacs just aren't good gaming platforms. It's mediocre, but you'd have to have a fairly "low" resolution (think 1680x1050) to not have to suffer horrendously when playing any of the latest games at moderately-high graphics settings on the 4850 or other cards. The fact Apple keeps using mid-range GPUs for high-resolution monitors, shows they don't really care about whether people game or do GPU-intensive tasks on the iMac or not, lol.
mr_matalino
macrumors 6502a
New charges
Just noticed that my credit card has a preliminary charge from apple for the price of my core i7. This is the charge that shows up when they check to make sure you have credit available and is indicative that apple is preparing to ship mine since they don't charge until it ships. Hopefully I get the notice tomorrow or wednesday.
Just noticed that my credit card has a preliminary charge from apple for the price of my core i7. This is the charge that shows up when they check to make sure you have credit available and is indicative that apple is preparing to ship mine since they don't charge until it ships. Hopefully I get the notice tomorrow or wednesday.