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Intel iBook (MacBook) Arriving in May? and 17'' MacBook Pro?

TaKashMoney said:
Hey, I'm not sure if somepne has already asked this but are typical 13" laptops larger than their 12" counterparts? I mean, I think its a pretty safe bet that the new Macbooks will be thinner than the current 12 inch ibooks? but do u think they will be smaller or larger than either the current 12 ibook or pb? and how about weight? did the MBP shave off any poundage from the 15 PB?
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Our two Fujitsu S6xxx series lifebooks have 13.3" screens and are either smaller or lighter than equivalent 12" screen laptops. Most laptops in the PC world with 12" screens do not have a built in optical drive. The Fujitsu's have a removable optical drive bay.

Apple can do this and this size of machine can be small, light, and have a FULL size keyboard.
 
AidenShaw said:
"Those people don't exist", says The Steve.
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Steve should stumble down here to La-La Land. Professionally, I see about (20) 12"-Powerbooks for every (1) 17"-Powerbook. Even a lot of consumers around here have the 12" model. I'm sure it's been said before, but I think it would be a real mistake to drop the 12" line.

However, Steve's kinda been full of s*** lately:

- "No interest in video in iPod" = Six months from now we'll have video in the iPod.

- "We want to include the name Mac in out machines" = It occured to us last night that since we weren't using the PowerPC processor we shouldn't name this thingg the Powerbook. We put some names in a hat and had a guy screen print on this machine 5 minutes before the keynote.


I think the guy's got a lot on his plate. Intel switch, Pixar sale, Income taxes, new facility in Newark, new facility in India.

That being said, I know he's got some suprises up his sleve. After all, NO ONE predicted Boot Camp or anything like it...
 
sartinsauce said:
Steve should stumble down here to La-La Land. Professionally, I see about (20) 12"-Powerbooks for every (1) 17"-Powerbook. Even a lot of consumers around here have the 12" model. I'm sure it's been said before, but I think it would be a real mistake to drop the 12" line.
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I tend to agree with this, all I ever see is 12" and 15" PBs in the field I work in. Never seen a 17". However Apple have one piece of information that we don't, sales figures. If the 12" is as popular as I believe it is, they are going to replace it somehow.
 
tom_s said:
I don't think that there will be three models. Perhaps 1.83 GHz, SuperDrive, 80 GB - $1399.
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I would jump at 1.83 GHz, SuperDrive, 80 GB - $1399. I think that's unlikely because that's basically a Macbook Pro with smaller screen size and no dedicated graphics for $600 less. :eek:

Another way Apple could do it is have 2 Macbook models, both at 1.67GHz, with the option to upgrade to 1.83 in the high end for $200, similar to Macbook Pro way to go to 2.16. It'd be awesome to have the base model be able to upgrade to a faster processor while keeping base hard drive, etc. But Apple prefers you to pay their prices rather than buy at discount from newegg.

Speaking of newegg, I sure hope the Macbooks are easier to get into than the iBooks to replace hard drive. I've already got a 7200RPM serial ATA drive waiting, as Apple probably will not offer that as an option.
 
dr_lha said:
However Apple have one piece of information that we don't, sales figures.
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Uuuh-Duuh.

I forgot about sales figures. That would make a difference.

Perhaps he's right. The 17" is barely portable, and it's unusable on an airplane, but if it sells, well, then it sells and it shouldn't be discontinued.

I suppose there are other factors, like the cost of construction versus the quantity of sales...or something like that.
 
brap said:
The 12" Powerbook was always the poor relation... certain BTO options unavailable, lacklustre base hardware. This won't change, even with a new name & dirt-common CPU/chipset.

And for the record, it's a god damned stupid idea to rename the product portfolio.
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Ah yes. I guess I will have to defend my good 12" Powerbook. It gets 4.5 hours of battery life, is only 167 MHz slower than a 15" Powerbook, and still has a superdrive despite it not being DL. It also has bluetooth and wireless-g. it has a 64 mb graphics (dedicated) card, because people with 12" laptops usually don't need to use CAD programs, but still might want some power. the scree, while being lower resolution, is almost completely negated by a wonderful program called expose. don't see how it is the bad relation and lacklustre base hardware, how do you figure?
 
To All MacBook name Haters!!!

We want to include the name Mac in out machines" = It occured to us last night that since we weren't using the PowerPC processor we shouldn't name this thingg the Powerbook. We put some names in a hat and had a guy screen print on this machine 5 minutes before the keynote.
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I am tired :mad: of postings saying that they hate the name MacBook. I wonder, imagine if they have called it AppleSomething... Apple Corps would be after their a$$e$ again.
Think again, to find a name it is difficult enough!!!:confused:
 
I hope the high end MacBook is at least $1499, and has at least $800 of built to order options, because I have a budget of $2300 right now, and I could get a totatly pimped out MacBook if they give it enough BTO options.
 
dr_lha said:
I tend to agree with this, all I ever see is 12" and 15" PBs in the field I work in. Never seen a 17". However Apple have one piece of information that we don't, sales figures. If the 12" is as popular as I believe it is, they are going to replace it somehow.
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Like Steve said with the iPod Mini.... it's our best selling model, thats why we're replacing it.

I could see the same thing happening with the 12" powerbook

Macbook Nano anyone?
 
Personally, I would be fine with a 13.3" laptop from Apple because I would accept it as a substitute that is not much larger than the 12" as long as

a) The screen resolution is improved
b) IT IS NOT WHITE


If it is white, I will not buy it. Period.
 
I'm gettin kinda sick of apple's bull****. Day after day after day, week after week after week, you go to their friggin website and NOTHINGS changed. Have they resigned or something? For the wait they've given us with the MacBook, the specs should be this.

$799

1.83Ghz Intel Core Duo
120GB Hard Drive
256mb X1600
 
dferrara said:
We want our FireWire 800 back. :mad:
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milo said:
Give it up. Never going to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if even the towers don't have it.
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My thoughts too. Although many recent PC (desktop) motherboards support Firewire 800..

What I think will happen is Firewire 400 and external SATA ports. They need to have those. And not just on the MacPros, but on all of their product line. The southbridge chip of intel chipsets all support 4 SATA drives, so the only thing they'd need to do is add an I/O port or two.. and it needs to be done :eek:
 
macgeek2005 said:
I'm gettin kinda sick of apple's bull****. Day after day after day, week after week after week, you go to their friggin website and NOTHINGS changed. Have they resigned or something?
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I remember hearing rumors that Apple was redesigning the iBook for the transition, so that's probably the main reason it hasn't come out yet.

However, if you can design, assemble, test and distribute (in the 100,000's) the new MacBook line, in a quicker time, I'm sure Apple would love to have you do it for them. :rolleyes:

For the wait they've given us with the MacBook, the specs should be this.

$799

1.83Ghz Intel Core Duo
120GB Hard Drive
256mb X1600
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You're not getting a computer with those specs for that price from anyone in the computer industry.
 
macbook processor

I wonder if someone out there knows WHY low voltage core duos are more expensive then equivalent core duos (when baught in bunch of 10000 that is)
I understand why a higher clocked processor is more expensive: it is more difficult to have good yields for higer frequencies..
But why on earth a low voltage would have bad yields??:confused:
Is it possible to have them at a price near a non LV processor if you buy 1,2 millions of them??
Now that would be a good ibook replacement: as cheap, great battery life too..
the battery could be smaller, cheaper and lighter... the book would'nt heat too much..
everything ibook owners enjoy (and I'm one of those..) :D
 
sartinsauce said:
Steve should stumble down here to La-La Land. Professionally, I see about (20) 12"-Powerbooks for every (1) 17"-Powerbook. Even a lot of consumers around here have the 12" model. I'm sure it's been said before, but I think it would be a real mistake to drop the 12" line.
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Eh, the standardization of those component parts should help to keep prices down a bit. Having five million different models is a great way to raise production costs.

Why not do a 6" model if you're really wanting cheap?

Or a PC?

However, Steve's kinda been full of s*** lately:
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Whenever a company does something that you don't like, it's obvious that they're just being stupid?

- "No interest in video in iPod" = Six months from now we'll have video in the iPod.
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I've seen a ton of interest in the Video iPod around here... at least a few dozen people I know have them.

- "We want to include the name Mac in out machines" = It occured to us last night that since we weren't using the PowerPC processor we shouldn't name this thingg the Powerbook. We put some names in a hat and had a guy screen print on this machine 5 minutes before the keynote.
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Griping about semantics.
 
StElmosFire - Try reading and understanding what people post before commentin g on it .... you seem to have misinterpreted just about everyone.

zpapasmurf said:
Like Steve said with the iPod Mini.... it's our best selling model, thats why we're replacing it.

I could see the same thing happening with the 12" powerbook

Macbook Nano anyone?
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I really like your take on this, Im really not expecting a nano macbook but its a very interesting thought. the whole its our best selling model.... thats why were replacing it.

$799

1.83Ghz Intel Core Duo
120GB Hard Drive
256mb X1600
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Tell me when you find it cause Ill want one.... Ill see you in a year or so I guess, by that time you might be able to pick up somthing for that price.
 
Badandy said:
[..] don't see how it is the bad relation and lacklustre base hardware, how do you figure?
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Relative to the hardware used in the larger models. The GPU is a good example, but Firewire 800, optical audio, backlit keyboard, 100GB HD option are also quite relevant. I'm not disputing whether it was the best choice for you, or provoking defence of your investment. It's just clear to see.
 
I'll give you the backlit keyboard, but Firewire 800 didn't seem to make much of a splash and is not even on the MBP. GPU I already explained. The people who need a larger GPU would not buy a notebook with a 12" screen, that combination just wouldn't be practical.
 
macgeek2005 said:
I'm gettin kinda sick of apple's bull****. Day after day after day, week after week after week, you go to their friggin website and NOTHINGS changed.
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Oh my god, poor you. I really feel for you that Apple have only released 3 new computers THIS YEAR in the space of 3 months. Boo-hoo.
Have they resigned or something? For the wait they've given us with the MacBook, the specs should be this.

$799

1.83Ghz Intel Core Duo
120GB Hard Drive
256mb X1600
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The most moronic thing I seen posted here.
 
My MacBook Prediction

MacBook

$799
13.3"
1.4 Ghz Celeron
512 mb DDR 2
128 mb shared graphics
40GB
Combo

$999
13.3"
1.67 Ghz Core Duo
512 mb
128 mb Shared Graphics
60GB
4x SL Superdrive

$1299
13.3"
1.67 Ghz Core Duo
512 mb
256 mb Shared Graphics
80 GB
8X DL Superdrive
128mb X1600

$1499
13.3"
2 Ghz Core Duo
1 gb
256 mb Shared Graphics
120 GB
8X DL Superdrive
128mb X1600

:D :D
 
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