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Intel iBook (MacBook) Arriving in May? and 17'' MacBook Pro?

Mr.Bob said:
MacBook
$1299
13.3"
1.67 Ghz Core Duo
512 mb
256 mb Shared Graphics
80 GB
8X DL Superdrive
128mb X1600

$1499
13.3"
2 Ghz Core Duo
1 gb
256 mb Shared Graphics
120 GB
8X DL Superdrive
128mb X1600

:D :D
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so you have integrated graphics and an ATI card in there... interesting design strategy you have there.

And IT WILL BE Integrated graphics only folks in the iBook/Macbook on all models... you can take that to the bank.
 
What would be nice is to have the iBook replacement standard with integrated graphics, and then have a CTO of like a 64MB X1300.
 
NewMacFan said:
so you have integrated graphics and an ATI card in there... interesting design strategy you have there.

And IT WILL BE Integrated graphics only folks in the iBook/Macbook on all models... you can take that to the bank.
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The Mobile X1600 comes in 2 models...
X1600 w/128mb
X1600 w/128mb and 128mb shared making it 256mb.
 
dr_lha said:
Casual gamers will find 20-25fps fine for FPS games IMHO. If not they should damn well go out and buy a gaming PC.
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This is probably the most stupid thing I've read on Macrumors in a LONG time. 20-25 FPS "FINE" FOR A FPS? You've gotta be outta your mind. That's not even gaming, it's more like shutting the lights on and off while trying to fire at someone in a dark room.

P.S. I am a gamer, not hardcore, but I enjoy gaming quite a bit.
 
Hopefully they'll have dedicated video.. or at least a BTO option for a dedicated video card.. but that probably wouldn't be likely since that would call for two logic boards to reduce redundancy..
 
Steve Jobs will die 9 days and 11 hours after the MacBooks are released if they have integrated graphics in all models.
 
MacMosher said:
I would be VERY VERY suprised to see a celeron in a mac EVER. I despise celerons.
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Don't worry you won't. If Apple put a Core Solo in the low-end Mac mini, that's the lowest chip they'll put in a 'MacBook'.

Peace said:
The Mobile X1600 comes in 2 models...
X1600 w/128mb
X1600 w/128mb and 128mb shared making it 256mb.
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Where did you find that info?
 
MacMosher said:
I would be VERY VERY suprised to see a celeron in a mac EVER. I despise celerons.
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Since Mac Mini's had Intel Duos / Single, a very much doubt the MacBook ( iBook ) will have anything other than this... so the MacBook follow suite.
 
Badandy said:
Personally, I would be fine with a 13.3" laptop from Apple because I would accept it as a substitute that is not much larger than the 12" as long as

a) The screen resolution is improved
b) IT IS NOT WHITE


If it is white, I will not buy it. Period.
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I agree. XGA resolution is ok for a 12" but the 13.3" must have higher (i.e. more pixeld in height) resolution. 720 pixels is pathetic...

However white would be ok if they do something about the overall design and material. The glossy white is fine, but the matte plastic and the round speaker holes around the keyboard in the iBooks looks pretty ugly for me.
 
Stella said:
Since Mac Mini's had Intel Duos / Single, a very much doubt the MacBook ( iBook ) will have anything other than this... so the MacBook follow suite.
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I agree somewhat, but with everyone using the same chips now, it'll be a tough sell to offer somebody a $1300 core solo notebook when you can get loaded core duo PC for $200 less...

Again, I hate to digress to the value of mac vs. pc, because we're all mac fans here...but now that the hardware is getting so similar it makes it harder to explain to somebody who is trying to choose.
 
i want the option for the fastest hardware in all sizes

i hate how the 12"book has slower this and slower that.

I want to be able to choose my processor and size independantly

i want an option for a 10" & 13.3 macbook
 
For those hoping for a 12" MBP

There could be some hope.

Since the release of the 15 inch MacBook Pro in January, speculation on the forthcoming Apple laptops is spreading throughout the net. Meanwhile, MacosXrumors has received a very unexpected report, providing information about one of the forthcoming MacBook Pros.

The sources that can be qualified as “very reliable” (yes you read it well), are claiming that Apple plans to keep similar display size for its entry level Mac Book Pro by releasing what sources called an “ultra-thin 12 inch Mac Book Pro”.

...

The sources also believe that the rumoured 13 inch form factor could rather be used for Apple’s entry-level laptops (iBooks or MacBooks).
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Time not specified specifically, but they say we could expect it "late in the second quarter of this year."

Article link

My expectations (if true):
12" 1280x800 Display (duh)
1.66 or 1.83 GHz Core Duo
Radeon X1400 or X1600 (maybe an nVidia equivalent??) w/ 128 VRam
Backlit Keyboard (if they can fit it - the sensors, specifically)
ExpressCard/34 (if they can fit it)
Dual-Link DVI (if they can fit it)

All other features are equal to 1.83 GHz MBP.
 
animefan_1 said:
There could be some hope.



Time not specified specifically, but they say we could expect it "late in the second quarter of this year."

Article link

My expectations (if true):
12" 1280x800 Display (duh)
1.66 or 1.83 GHz Core Duo
Radeon X1400 or X1600 (maybe an nVidia equivalent??) w/ 128 VRam
Backlit Keyboard (if they can fit it - the sensors, specifically)
ExpressCard/34 (if they can fit it)
Dual-Link DVI (if they can fit it)

All other features are equal to 1.83 GHz MBP.
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if its thinner it's not going to have much of anything in it. and isn't that a widescreen res? also this article is old.
 
I would love to see a...
$999 13.3" MacBook
Intel Core Solo LV @ 1.5ghz
DVD/CD-RW
Intel Integrated Graphics
512mb RAM
60gig SATA Hard Drive
backlit keyboard as CTO
FrontRow/iSight/Wireless/BT/remote/MagSafe Connector

I would love to see a...
$1199 13.3" MacBook
Intel Core Core Duo LV @ 1.67
DVD-RW
x1300 128mb
512mb RAM
60gig SATA Hard Drive
backlit keyboard as CTO
FrontRow/iSight/Wireless/BT/remote/MagSafe Connector

$1599 13.3" MacBook Thin (replaces the 12" PowerBook)
Intel Core Duo @ 1.83ghz (up to 2.16ghz)
DVD-RW
x1600 w/ 128mb graphics
512mb RAM
80gig SATA Hard drive
backlit Keyboard
FrontRow/iSight/Wireless/BT/remote/MagSafe Connector
 
JDOG_ said:
I agree somewhat, but with everyone using the same chips now, it'll be a tough sell to offer somebody a $1300 core solo notebook when you can get loaded core duo PC for $200 less...

Again, I hate to digress to the value of mac vs. pc, because we're all mac fans here...but now that the hardware is getting so similar it makes it harder to explain to somebody who is trying to choose.
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Thats always been the case with Apple - you can always get a cheaper PC laptop often with better specs ( as was the case with G4s ). Apple won't compete on price.. its the whole package ( osx + hardware etc )
 
In other words...

adamfilip said:
i want the option for the fastest hardware in all sizes

i hate how the 12"book has slower this and slower that.

I want to be able to choose my processor and size independantly

i want an option for a 10" & 13.3 macbook
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In other words, you want what everyone else has when picking a Windows laptop - freedom to choose which features/options are important for you.

Why would you resent being forced to pick one of the six quadrants of Apples which have been deemed "right" by the lords of Cupertino?
_____________

This shows why Apple can't release OSX as a software product without killing its own hardware lines.

Apple hardware might be at the top of its narrowly defined product niches ("the best 1" thick 17" widescreen laptop"), but they really come up short for many people ("I want a lightweight 12" w/o optical and a really low-power CPU for long battery life").
 
NewMacFan said:
And IT WILL BE Integrated graphics only folks in the iBook/Macbook on all models... you can take that to the bank.
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I think that this is the big question, whether or not the iBook will have integrated graphics or not. On one hand it makes sense the entire Macbook line will or will not have integrated graphics. That simplifies production and then Apple would not need 2 motherboard designs.

But surely Apple has listened to the negative feedback from the Mac Mini and, in part due to that, will not to put integrated graphics in the Macbook. Maybe that is why the 13" Macbook is taking so long to get out due to finalizing the graphics.

Also, Apple has an X1600 in the iMac, the consumer Mac computer. The Macbook/iBook is the consumer (non-pro) Apple laptop, not a bargain basement computer like the Mac Mini. I think that is another reason to favor dedicated graphics in the iBook. (Also, consider that the base Mac Mini has core solo but the base Macbook will have core duo, again, a pattern like the base iMac.)

If the base Macbook looks like this, I'm gonna wet my pants and then change clothes and be the first in line at my local Apple Store buying one:

$1099
1.67MHz core duo
512MB
X1300/X1600 64/128MB graphics
60GB
combo drive

So NewMacFan, hope your bank is insured, because you may not be taking integrated graphics anywhere. ;)
 
ImAlwaysRight said:
I think that this is the big question, whether or not the iBook will have integrated graphics or not.
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It's the package, folks.

The 950 integrated graphics will let Apple save money (cheaper MaciBook), use less power, and come to market quicker.

And, to be frank, only gamers will notice the difference. The 950 integrated graphics are better than $400 cards of a couple of years ago.
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As long as they get rid of the gawd-awful white plastic enclosures....
 
ImAlwaysRight said:
I think that this is the big question, whether or not the iBook will have integrated graphics or not. On one hand it makes sense the entire Macbook line will or will not have integrated graphics. That simplifies production and then Apple would not need 2 motherboard designs.

But surely Apple has listened to the negative feedback from the Mac Mini and, in part due to that, will not to put integrated graphics in the Macbook. Maybe that is why the 13" Macbook is taking so long to get out due to finalizing the graphics.

Also, Apple has an X1600 in the iMac, the consumer Mac computer. The Macbook/iBook is the consumer (non-pro) Apple laptop, not a bargain basement computer like the Mac Mini. I think that is another reason to favor dedicated graphics in the iBook. (Also, consider that the base Mac Mini has core solo but the base Macbook will have core duo, again, a pattern like the base iMac.)

If the base Macbook looks like this, I'm gonna wet my pants and then change clothes and be the first in line at my local Apple Store buying one:

$1099
1.67MHz core duo
512MB
X1300/X1600 64/128MB graphics
60GB
combo drive

So NewMacFan, hope your bank is insured, because you may not be taking integrated graphics anywhere. ;)
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I totaly agree. The Mac Mini is something else. The Mac Mini is the computer you buy for your grandma so she can check her email. The MacBook is the iMac put into a laptop.
 
Another Good Thing About Updated iBooks

Granted, I am not privy to the process undertaken by these gentleman to convert an iBook into their iTab, but perhaps an upgrade to the Core Duo processor will give rise to the much anticipated tablet Macintosh...albeit from a third party.

Edit: I suppose not--apparently the project has died as far as making new products. I doubt the Core Duo would make a difference.
 
animefan_1 said:
My expectations (if true):
12" 1280x800 Display (duh)
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1280 x 800 display resolution is a widescreen resolution often found in other PC laptop 13.3" widescreen displays. 1280 x 800 would not fit a 12" 4:3 display.

And remember, it was TS who originally reported that the Macbook is being built exclusively around a 13.3-inch widescreen display with a 1280x720 WXGA resolution. It is possible TS is inaccurate in reporting the 1280 x 720 resolution. More likely we will see a 1280 x 800 resolution in the Macbook. TS was WAAAY off base in their reporting earlier this year. And they have a direct contradiction with Appleinsider, TS saying Core Solo in base model, AI saying all core duo. AI was right on for January predictions. Only time will tell. (Gosh my clock seems to be running slow these days. ;) )
 
GFLPraxis said:
In Windows, a Radeon 9200 can run Star Wars Battlefront. The current iBook has a Radeon 9550. It may not be the most modern card but it's enough to play many/most modern PC games on lower settings.

I'm sorry, but the GMA 950 is a *downgrade*. Consumers want to play casual games too. We're not talking Half-Life 2 at max settings here. Consumers will play at 640x480 if it just runs.

Maybe you're sick of people complaining about it, but I'm sick of the apologists that keep saying, "Oh, you want to play casual games? Go spend twice as much on a pro machine! I don't care if you don't have that much money!". I can build a $400 PC with a Geforce FX 5200 that can play games the Mac Mini won't run. I want the iBook to be able to because I can't upgrade it at a later point.
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Well said!

JRM PowerPod said:
My predictions

MacBook

$899 [EDITED: $1099]
13.3"
1.5GHz Solo
512mb DDR 2
128 mb shared graphics
40GB
Combo

$1299
13.3"
1.67 Duo
512mb
128mb Shared Graphics
60GB
4x SL Superdrive

MacBook Pro;) EDITED: MacBook BTO!

$1599
13.3"
1.67Ghz upg to 2Ghz
512mb
80GB upto 120gb
8X DL Superdrive
128mb X1600
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This last one is just too steep in price and its too close to existing MacBookPro with single-layer DVD burners. BUT down say $149 for the BTO then its possible & more likely.

I fear that the rotational speeds will be 4200RPM based and 5400RPMs for BTO, but I'll want the 7200RPM even if max is 100GB; I'll store ALL my media files on an external anyway (save for frequent audio tracks for listen, but GarangeBand & ProTools pure external. I'm sure we'll also see GarageBand updated JUST to sweeten the deal for those summer concert lovers, and just perfectly set in minds for Back-To-School!)

Although I could afford MacBook Prediction #1 with the edited price right now, I'll have to go for the #2/ #3 BTO choice for longevity & lasting performance. Until it brought in enough money for 23" Apple LCD & for the Intel-based Mac Pro!
 
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