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macEfan said:
very true... I wished the ibook price came down $200, but i know it wont

The only way it might is if they build a model without wireless and a camera for schools that dont want these features...
 
It'll be interesting to see what the build quality of the new iBook replacement will be like. The G4 wasn't much to write home about, especially compared to the 12" PB. Based on build quality alone, I don't think I want another iBook, especially if its going to be made from cheap white plastic.
 
aswitcher said:
The only way it might is if they build a model without wireless and a camera for schools that dont want these features...

Actually, most schools would want wireless, as Apple's solutions all involve Airport and a central hub for the classroom. No camera would be possible, and perhaps even without an optical drive, or Firewire ports, something along those lines. I might even go for something like that (I'd need an optical drive and wireless, but if the camera were left off, and perhaps some of the other options, it wouldn't hurt too much.)

jW
 
Joe2000 said:
Seriously - the iBook is an iMac to go!! So why is the iBook basically a Mini with a screen!!
lord patton said:
When have the iBook specs ever been comparable to the iMac?

The iBook is Apple's entry level mobile. The iMac is a mid-level (albeit, still consumer grade) desktop. Aside from the similarity in their names (which I guess is about to change), there's no reason to think they should be comparable.

Actually, I believe the original poster was alluding to the original iBook commercial released alongside the first iBook in 1999. It was referred to as an "iMac To Go!" by Apple. Obviously, that's far from the truth these days. With a Core Duo though, things may change back.
 
Volans said:
Actually, I believe the original poster was alluding to the original iBook commercial released alongside the first iBook in 1999.

ah... thanks for the clarity. I wasn't mac-conscious back then.

Just curious, was the '99 iBook actually comparable to the iMac at that time?
 
Refinement to Predictions

What do you guys think of this for MacBook Predictions. I am pretty sure the iSight will be part of the MacBook simply because I do not see a MacBook Pro 13" being released and I think Apple is pushing the iSight to go idea in Notebooks to accord with their iChat software.

1. 'Solo' model. Given that MacMini retails for $599, an extra $400 used to add 13.3" TFT, Keyb/Trackpad and built-in iSight Camera. Aimed at the modest consumer eg; student who has good general demands and multimedia flexibility (ie iSight, HD playback etc)

$999 MacBook 13.3” Solo

Intel Core Solo 1.5Ghz Processor with 2MB L2 Cache
512MB DDR2 Memory (MAX 2GB)
60GB 5400rpm Hard Drive (MAX 120GB)
Intel GMA950 Graphics Chipset wth 64MB Shared VRAM
Slot-loading Combo Drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
Built-in Airport Extreme with Bluetooth 2.0
FrontRow with Apple Remote
Built-in iSight camera

2. 'Duo' model. Again, NB MacMini retails for $799, so extra $100 on top of $400 as above provides room for discreet GPU. Aimed at demanding consumer after good overall performance and on-the-go gaming.

$1299 MacBook 13.3” Duo

Intel Core Duo 1.66Ghz Processor with 2MB L2 Cache
512MB DDR2 Memory (MAX 2GB)
80GB 5400rpm Hard Drive (MAX 120GB)
ATI X1300 64MB Discreet Graphics Chipset (128Mb U/G option)
Slot-loading Superdrive (DVD-RW/CD-RW)
Built-in Airport Extreme with Bluetooth 2.0
FrontRow with Apple Remote
Built-in iSight camera
 
stevep said:
It'll be interesting to see what the build quality of the new iBook replacement will be like. The G4 wasn't much to write home about, especially compared to the 12" PB. Based on build quality alone, I don't think I want another iBook, especially if its going to be made from cheap white plastic.

That's a deal breaker for me too. I could be tempted by a new iBook if the specs are half decent but I don't want the cheap plastic.
 
gthompson1245 said:
Well this is the MacBook and it's beautiful i know
Ha-ha
Click the Attachment


I should hope not, we have been hearing of a major redesign. Obviously thats a photoshopped iBook G4 lol but I really want to see iPod Nano style design in two colours that looks slick but leaves people wanting to buy the MacBook Pro if they are after the aluminium look.
 
Mitthrawnuruodo said:
I'll take a 12"/13" MacBook with a low voltage dual 1.5 without optical drive. Imagine the battery life on something like that... :cool: :D

Imagine how long it would last if you also leave the display away! ;-)
 
gthompson1245 said:
Well this is the MacBook and it's beautiful i know
Ha-ha
Click the Attachment

I quite like that, actually. See, "redesign" in my book, means that they have conciously redone the body-case and the interior. It may be a similar design, but it is still a redesign. Currently all the computers have just been a "re-stuffing" if you will; the contents have been swapped with Intel chips, and the exterior remains much the same.

The benefit of a redesign is that Apple may have taken into consideration how to optimize the space inside the casing better. The bad news is that the "Rev A." issues might pop up.

However, with such a big change in platforms (G4 -> Intel), I would argue that a redesign would reap more benefits.
 
Jonathon Ive!!!

Is it just me, or does it appear that he has had the year off!:rolleyes:

OBE from the Queen for his outstanding contributions to design, yet Apple seem to be showhorning intel processors into 2 year old designed macs.

Pleeeeeeaaasssseeee redo the iBook, even if it is just getting rid of the old style round speaker grills!;)
 
Legacy said:
What do you guys think of this for MacBook Predictions. I am pretty sure the iSight will be part of the MacBook simply because I do not see a MacBook Pro 13" being released and I think Apple is pushing the iSight to go idea in Notebooks to accord with their iChat software.

1. 'Solo' model. Given that MacMini retails for $599, an extra $400 used to add 13.3" TFT, Keyb/Trackpad and built-in iSight Camera. Aimed at the modest consumer eg; student who has good general demands and multimedia flexibility (ie iSight, HD playback etc)

$999 MacBook 13.3” Solo

Intel Core Solo 1.5Ghz Processor with 2MB L2 Cache
512MB DDR2 Memory (MAX 2GB)
60GB 5400rpm Hard Drive (MAX 120GB)
Intel GMA950 Graphics Chipset wth 64MB Shared VRAM
Slot-loading Combo Drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
Built-in Airport Extreme with Bluetooth 2.0
FrontRow with Apple Remote
Built-in iSight camera

2. 'Duo' model. Again, NB MacMini retails for $799, so extra $100 on top of $400 as above provides room for discreet GPU. Aimed at demanding consumer after good overall performance and on-the-go gaming.

$1299 MacBook 13.3” Duo

Intel Core Duo 1.66Ghz Processor with 2MB L2 Cache
512MB DDR2 Memory (MAX 2GB)
80GB 5400rpm Hard Drive (MAX 120GB)
ATI X1300 64MB Discreet Graphics Chipset (128Mb U/G option)
Slot-loading Superdrive (DVD-RW/CD-RW)
Built-in Airport Extreme with Bluetooth 2.0
FrontRow with Apple Remote
Built-in iSight camera

I like the specs for the Macbook core duo, but I don't think the single core will use the same graphics chipset as the mini. I think that all tiers of macbooks will have discreet graphics, if the last g4 is any indication. I like the x1300 in this line, too, but I think the bottom level will be 64mb vram with the upper end being 128mb, topping out at 256mb. Also, I'm not sure if apple can make a sub-$1000 notebook w/isight built-in. I think the macbooks will probably have front row, though.
 
I honestly think it's far more likely and rational for the iBook/MacBook to get the 1.5 GHz Core-Solo and a 1.67 GHz Core-Duo like the Intel Mac mini's while the 12"/13" MacBook Pros receive the low voltage chips. But that's just based on the fact that low voltage and ultra low voltage chips will inevitably cost more.;)
 
stevep said:
It'll be interesting to see what the build quality of the new iBook replacement will be like. The G4 wasn't much to write home about, especially compared to the 12" PB. Based on build quality alone, I don't think I want another iBook, especially if its going to be made from cheap white plastic.

I agree but I don't think we will see an aluminum iBook anytime soon. There would be no differentiation factor. Plus, wasn't there a rumor a few weeks ago stating that the form factor would be the same white as current books...
 
Come on....

Come on guys you are killing me here....
Ok ok
The new *iBook is going to be called a MacBook
Apple is trying to get away from *i and put Mac in all of their products.
There is NOT going to be an alluminum MacBook
It will stay white and look as sexy as always, We are also releasing a black version of the Macbook for all you black iPod junkies:)
and the MacBook will be totally different than the current iBooks
It will be 1 inch thin and have a 13.3 in (diagnal) screen hmmm...
 
gthompson1245 said:
Come on guys you are killing me here....
Ok ok
The new *iBook is going to be called a MacBook
Apple is trying to get away from *i and put Mac in all of their products.
There is NOT going to be an alluminum MacBook
It will stay white and look as sexy as always
and the MacBook will be totally different than the current iBooks
It will be 1 inch thin and have a 13.3 in (diagnal) screen

I dunno how many people would consider the current iBooks "sexy" when compared to the Powerbooks (er...Macbook Pros)

1 inch thin iBooks/Mac Books would be great, I wonder what we'll have to sacrifice to get that form factor. I say that only because of the recent decision to have integrated VRAM in the Intel Mini. I hope Apple doesn't do the same with the Mac Books.
 
Legacy said:
What do you guys think of this for MacBook Predictions. I am pretty sure the iSight will be part of the MacBook simply because I do not see a MacBook Pro 13" being released and I think Apple is pushing the iSight to go idea in Notebooks to accord with their iChat software.

1. 'Solo' model. Given that MacMini retails for $599, an extra $400 used to add 13.3" TFT, Keyb/Trackpad and built-in iSight Camera. Aimed at the modest consumer eg; student who has good general demands and multimedia flexibility (ie iSight, HD playback etc)

$999 MacBook 13.3” Solo

Intel Core Solo 1.5Ghz Processor with 2MB L2 Cache
512MB DDR2 Memory (MAX 2GB)
60GB 5400rpm Hard Drive (MAX 120GB)
Intel GMA950 Graphics Chipset wth 64MB Shared VRAM
Slot-loading Combo Drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
Built-in Airport Extreme with Bluetooth 2.0
FrontRow with Apple Remote
Built-in iSight camera

2. 'Duo' model. Again, NB MacMini retails for $799, so extra $100 on top of $400 as above provides room for discreet GPU. Aimed at demanding consumer after good overall performance and on-the-go gaming.

$1299 MacBook 13.3” Duo

Intel Core Duo 1.66Ghz Processor with 2MB L2 Cache
512MB DDR2 Memory (MAX 2GB)
80GB 5400rpm Hard Drive (MAX 120GB)
ATI X1300 64MB Discreet Graphics Chipset (128Mb U/G option)
Slot-loading Superdrive (DVD-RW/CD-RW)
Built-in Airport Extreme with Bluetooth 2.0
FrontRow with Apple Remote
Built-in iSight camera

Sounds good to me. I think that the hdd will be a little smaller than 60GB in the 12" model.
Personally, I could do without the iSight. Hopefully, the iTunes remote would work with keynotes.
 
timswim78 said:
Sounds good to me. I think that the hdd will be a little smaller than 60GB in the 12" model.
Personally, I could do without the iSight. Hopefully, the iTunes remote would work with keynotes.

I know that everyone is speculating isight, but what about a modem? The MBP only has wireless broadband connection (if I heard right) and don't you think isight should be optional to help keep price down?
 
RollTide said:
I know that everyone is speculating isight, but what about a modem? The MBP only has wireless broadband connection (if I heard right) and don't you think isight should be optional to help keep price down?

I think having the iSight optional might be a little impractical from a manufacturing standpoint. One reason Apple can keep their costs lower is not having to make multiple models of the same unit, depending what customers want. Increasing storage or RAM is one thing, but when dealing with an integrated component like an iSight, I think it would be infeasible to make that an option from Apple's perspective. :cool:
 
In reply to my 'cheap white plastic' comment-
Shaker said:
I agree but I don't think we will see an aluminum iBook anytime soon. There would be no differentiation factor. Plus, wasn't there a rumor a few weeks ago stating that the form factor would be the same white as current books...
I agree - which is why I'll wait for something with a better enclosure. Don't know about that rumour though - in fact most of the rumours that have been around since Christmas have been little more than botty-waffle.:)
 
Legacy said:
What do you guys think of this for MacBook Predictions. I am pretty sure the iSight will be part of the MacBook simply because I do not see a MacBook Pro 13" being released and I think Apple is pushing the iSight to go idea in Notebooks to accord with their iChat software.

1. 'Solo' model. Given that MacMini retails for $599, an extra $400 used to add 13.3" TFT, Keyb/Trackpad and built-in iSight Camera. Aimed at the modest consumer eg; student who has good general demands and multimedia flexibility (ie iSight, HD playback etc)

$999 MacBook 13.3” Solo

Intel Core Solo 1.5Ghz Processor with 2MB L2 Cache
512MB DDR2 Memory (MAX 2GB)
60GB 5400rpm Hard Drive (MAX 120GB)
Intel GMA950 Graphics Chipset wth 64MB Shared VRAM
Slot-loading Combo Drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
Built-in Airport Extreme with Bluetooth 2.0
FrontRow with Apple Remote
Built-in iSight camera

2. 'Duo' model. Again, NB MacMini retails for $799, so extra $100 on top of $400 as above provides room for discreet GPU. Aimed at demanding consumer after good overall performance and on-the-go gaming.

$1299 MacBook 13.3” Duo

Intel Core Duo 1.66Ghz Processor with 2MB L2 Cache
512MB DDR2 Memory (MAX 2GB)
80GB 5400rpm Hard Drive (MAX 120GB)
ATI X1300 64MB Discreet Graphics Chipset (128Mb U/G option)
Slot-loading Superdrive (DVD-RW/CD-RW)
Built-in Airport Extreme with Bluetooth 2.0
FrontRow with Apple Remote
Built-in iSight camera

This sounds pretty good, but there are a couple of other possibilities for graphics.
(1) The ATI x1300 comes in two forms--a totally discreet graphics card and one that includes the ability to share main memory. Let's hope Apple puts in the former and not the latter.
(2) Apple might use the ATI x1400. This is a little more hefty than the x1300, though details have been scant.

Personally, I think I might wait until the developers conference in August before buying. I could use a new laptop now, but I think there is going to be a rapid shift toward 64 bit support on the Mac platform and the increased speed from the additional registers will be worth the wait for Merom. Whether I wait for the Robson technology which will be integrated into the Santa Rosa board in Q1 of '07 is another matter.
 
MacBook versatility

I am a college student, and a Mac fan for a couple years now, even though I have never owned one. I have read many posts and have tried to keep up with the recent Apple systems. I am definetly ready to become a switcher. I am looking at the Macbook very heavily, but I was wondering about a few things. I like to play games, like Call of Duty, Halo and games that take up as much or more of my comp.(although games aren't extremely important, but it's nice to know that you can, and with a 128 gb vcard, you can) I also like to do a little photowork, which I figure mac has to be better than what I have now and do it faster. I know that office 2003 should work well under Rosetta, especially with a core duo. with one gb ram, probably all I need. I was going to get a Macbook when they came out, but honestly I only need it right before school, so I might as well wait until leopard comes out and also hope the price drops a little over a few months. The thing I did not want to wait for was mermon( sry bout my spelling) I have heard mixed predictions about 64 bit, and as speed is not extremely important for me, and as long as programs are written in 32 bit for a few years, I will be happy, basically I want to know that for the things I will use it for will 32 bit and the Mac be good for me

I appreciate any help
 
13" MacBook

Oblivious said:
I honestly think it's far more likely and rational for the iBook/MacBook to get the 1.5 GHz Core-Solo and a 1.67 GHz Core-Duo like the Intel Mac mini's while the 12"/13" MacBook Pros receive the low voltage chips. But that's just based on the fact that low voltage and ultra low voltage chips will inevitably cost more.;)

I don't think there will be a smaller version of the PRO. I think the 13-inch MacBook will be the successor of both the 12 inch iBook and Powerbook (it will most likely be much faster than either model). And I think Legacy's specs sound pretty much on the money: The G4 iBook and MacMini have usually fallen under similar processor speeds.
 
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