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Intel Launches Heavily Biased 'PC vs. Mac' Comparison Website
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Doesn't look like Intel is crying very hard, or will be for quite some time.
www.statista.com
In the fourth quarter of 2020, 61.4 percent of x86 computer processor or CPU tests recorded were from Intel processors. When looking solely at laptop CPUs, Intel is the clear winner, accounting for 80 percent of laptop CPU test benchmark results in the fourth quarter of 2020.
Doesn't look like MS has any immediate concerns either.
en.wikipedia.org
In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is the most commonly installed OS, at approximately between 77% and 87.8% globally. Apple's macOS accounts for approximately 9.6–13%, Google's Chrome OS is up to 6% (in the US) and other Linux distributions are at around 2%.
All you Apple only fanboi's need to get a grip, and let people use what they like to use.
Intel/AMD x86 computer CPU market share 2024| Statista
In the third quarter of 2024, roughly ** percent of x86 computer processor or CPU tests recorded were from Intel processors, while **** percent were AMD processors.
www.statista.com
In the fourth quarter of 2020, 61.4 percent of x86 computer processor or CPU tests recorded were from Intel processors. When looking solely at laptop CPUs, Intel is the clear winner, accounting for 80 percent of laptop CPU test benchmark results in the fourth quarter of 2020.
Doesn't look like MS has any immediate concerns either.
Usage share of operating systems - Wikipedia
In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is the most commonly installed OS, at approximately between 77% and 87.8% globally. Apple's macOS accounts for approximately 9.6–13%, Google's Chrome OS is up to 6% (in the US) and other Linux distributions are at around 2%.
All you Apple only fanboi's need to get a grip, and let people use what they like to use.
That is completely true. In the other hand most of that "surplus" of games, applications and devices that exists in PC are a complete garbage.
Reminds me of a true story.
we engineers always use project names that have nothing to do (usually) with the names you folks know. Even when you hear a supposed “code name,” it’s not often the same as the name we use. So, for example, a chip like K6+ might be “chomper,” or whatever. This has caused me grief in the past when people have asked me detailed questions about some chip and I don’t actually know which chip that was, because we never paid attention to the marketing or “leaked to the press code” names of things.
Anyway, at a certain point we were going to start working for real on what we were calling “K8,” and our boss wanted us to come up with the nickname, so he sent out an email asking for suggestions. I’ll never forget when one guy suggested we name each chip in the K8 family after famous “kates.” His first suggestion was “Mulgrew.”
Happily, it turned out that we had recently been moved from the Nexgen building in milpitas to the first floor of AMD’s main building in sunnyvale, and we had a big stupid wall down the middle of our space. They were going to take the wall down, and i suggested to our boss that they let us each take a swing of the sledgehammer before the professionals got involved.
... and thus was born new chips named sledgehammer, clawhammer, jackhammer, etc... (which i guess led to bulldozer)
And Kate mulgrew will still not talk to me to this very day.
Really makes no difference. The OS and software is so optimized for apple silicon that, while on paper amd might look better, real life performance will tell a different story. While AMD has nothing to loose here, intel just lost 10% of the market overnight. They are understandably pissed off, but the latest commercials are beyond childish. They won’t be getting apple back and al the cons they’re highlighting are shared by intel macs. If rumors are to be believed, they may even be exclusive of intel macs, even though the processor isn’t the culprit of port availability.
Windows 7 was the last good OS. Now we have Windows 10 that includes updates that blue screen when you use a printer. Windows 7 was so good that blue screens meant hardware problems. That’s not the case anymore. It’s a shame.
Well it's 5% of Intel's revenue but still over $3 billion. In 2019 Apple sold 17,684,000 Intel Macs.
How Much Revenue And Earnings Could Intel Stand To Lose If Apple Deploys Its Own Chips For Mac?
Apple Inc. will likely ship Mac computers with its own ARM-based chips from 2020. This could result in $3 billion loss of revenue and a 5% decline in earnings for Intel (NASDAQ:INTC), according to our estimates. We have created an interactive dashboard ~ How Much Revenue And EPS Could Intel Stand...
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Unless you plan on upgrading the RAM that isn't an issue and an external SSD takes
Big Sur supports some models as far back as 2013 though I not sure why the iMac Pro got capped at 2017 while the iMac goes as far back as 2014.
Even with this back compatibility Windows users want to know how to run 16-bit programs on Windows 10. That is ridiculous. Why on Earth would any sane want to run software that old?
That isn't Apple's fault. Greece has been effectively a basket case since 2011 and companies tend to avoid countries that have major financial troubles.
They may not be allowed to. I have no idea what additional import duties or restrictions that might apply to Greece. Also that 24.00% VAT adds up fast.
Not my experience. My windows 10 desktop at the office is rock solid and fast enough. On a 7 years old machine.
Unless I plan on upgrading? OK, I plan on upgrading. So it is an issue just like that. It's not just that of course, RAM and SSD can go bad. Even if we had Apple stores here, it would still be bad to not be allowed to replace them yourself.
There is no reason to stop supporting previous hardware as long as we are talking about same architecture. The only reason they do it is to push newer models. As I said, planned obsolescence. Nothing less.
If people want to run 16-bit programs on Windows 10, that's their thing. It's not up to you to tell them to stop trying. Having said that, Windows stopped natively supporting 16-bit software for close to 20 years now. Using this as an example of too much is a bit too much. I wouldn't say no to run some old 16-bit software natively on Windows, but thankfully it's relatively easy to do so (virtualization and emulation). Thankfully nothing special has to be done for 32-bit software *cough* BS Apple move *cough*.
As for what you said about Greece, I am not even going to bother, you are clearly clueless.
Yes, every other company can sell them here just fine, but Apple no, they are special in import duties or restrictions...NOT.
I am well aware of VAT, which is why I originally mentioned it. As I said the increased prices have nothing to do with VAT as they are in addition to that.
Ah, so THAT is what people are talking about when they say that iOS doesn’t have a “proper filesystem”. EVERY OS has a filesystem, but it’s really just about being able to move around tiny pictures in order to see bigger ones!
AMD likely couldn’t make enough Ryzens. Their marketshare is small not because their chips aren’t good, but because they can’t make enough to make a dent in Intel.
You are spot on and the comments from gamers (as one example) really does show how little so many people know about computer sales. I know with forums like this, it’s attracting a very narrow and specific consumer, but for gamers to think they’re driving the broader computer market is just foolish. It’s a tiny slice of the overall market in both units sold and revenue generated. There is a reason Apple isn’t dedicating a lot of resources to gaming beyond on iOS.
That may be true for computers in general, but not the computer parts like CPUs, GPUs, keyboards, etc.. These consumers are very dedicated and will (foolishly) pay top dollar for the most hyped products. Just look at how they reacted to the recent video card release. This in turn translates over time in how computers are marketed.
Believe it or not, I actually like the Thunderbolt 3 ports only Macs. 4-port models, not 2-port. I see nothing wrong to carry dongles around. Nowadays, you can buy a single dongle that can do most of jobs you need and you don't need it all the time. I travel with both charger and dongle(s) without any issues. The slim Mac did help a lot. I have Dell XPS 13, Thunderbolt 3 ports only too, and it works great too. What I dont like is actually the touch screen on some Windows PC, and the way you can covert it to tablet mode. They both are the worst designs in PC industry. The touch screen feature would cause a lot of problem if you really use it on the daily basis. The 2-in-1 PC has been problematic too when you try to switch in between laptop mode and tablet mode. So hard to use it, and it's so heavy and bulky. just my 2 cents.
Apple should keep doing what they are doing, making Macs slim and clean, separate tablet and laptop to two, not convert them to one like PC, it never works properly, never.
Apple should keep doing what they are doing, making Macs slim and clean, separate tablet and laptop to two, not convert them to one like PC, it never works properly, never.
This doesn't make sense. Most cpus, GPUs, etc. that are sold are sold in computers. And 80% of computers are sold via commercial channels, not retail.
Why so complicated? Just set up a Hot Corner (or whatever it's called in English) in System Preferences and you're good to go. I'm using this since at least MacOS X 10.4 Tiger - long before Windows even dreamt of this functionality.[…]
Also, the ”show desktop” button is the lower right corner of Windows 10 is something I sometimes miss on MacOS. One can always cmd/option-click the Finder in the dock, but it's a bit more fiddly...
Trying to make a meny bar item that takes care of that in MacOS, but have so many other things that takes focus in this life.
Screens, TVs, projectors, and USB devices. They're adding HDMI back, which will be good enough for me. I used to also place an external keyboard atop mine because the built-in one is so bad, but company replaced my 2016 MBP with a 2019, which solved that.
The cheap docks are always flaky, especially with video outputs. I was fed up and wasted more company money on a CalDigit dock that finally worked, but in the past this was never necessary.
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They fear that Apple has just walked casually away from x86 like it's no big deal. Apple is still in the top ten home computer makers... literally NOBODY has ever walked away from Intel like this, for AMD... let alone their OWN processor.
others might follow Apple ... like Microsoft for their Surfaces.