Intel Launches Heavily Biased 'PC vs. Mac' Comparison Website

[Alan Wynn]

Yes... and the majority of people won't be using it for things outside of gaming.

Pretty sure the majority of GPUs are used outside of gaming.

So why does Apple deliberately ignore such a gigantic market?

Apple does not ignore gaming, iOS is the most successful gaming platform out there. As for AAA gaming, Apple does not ignore that, it just does not yet have a value proposition to offer AAA developers yet. Their desktop and laptops make up under 15% of the market. Very few of those machines are suitable for AAA gaming. Apple‘s transition to Apple Silicon is necessary (but not sufficient) to make any AAA developers port to macOS. The other steps they would need are a new high end AppleTV that is competitive with the PS 3 or 4 and/or Xbox One, and faster GPUs in all their systems including the new iPad Pros and iPad Airs.

With that, they might have a large enough market to interest some (even that is not a guarantee).

 

[DarthDon]

I am actually waiting for a nice thin Windows Notebook with arm and 17“ Display.
The First think i‘ll do After purchase is delete everything and install Linux!!!

 

[Romeo_Nightfall]

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Quite funny - because - the smaller guy is younger - hence he could be the big guy too - according to einstein!

 

[Mac... nificent]

Quite funny - because - the smaller guy is younger - hence he could be the big guy too - according to einstein!

He could also become a meth addict 😁

 

[robertosh]

I’m starting to develop a deep hate against Intel, and it’s sad because it should not be like this... I’m totally amazed!

 

[Stiksi]

dodgy claims notwithstanding, using Justin Long for this is hilarious 😂 just the right kind of petty exmanship!

 

[MBAir2010]

The Battery statement is false, My Dell XPS has hr.46 minutes remaining with the energy saver on.
i never used my battery that much compared to the MacBook air and i have not gotten 3 hours of life while i would get at least 5 hours of streaming hockey games on a 2010 MacBook air in 2013 running Mt Lion using UWisc internets while situated outside the Terrace with others fans watching.
oh my bad, the battery on the Dell XPS now states 3hr 32min.
after 36 minutes, i have or gained more battery time?

 

[MBAir2010]

I am actually waiting for a nice thin Windows Notebook with arm and 17“ Display.
The First think i‘ll do After purchase is delete everything and install Linux!!!

when i purchased a Dell XPS in 2019, i was going to install Unbuntu that graphic design distro, but stuck and liked windows 10. Luckily for me the notebook did not have any bloatware installed.

 

[31 Flavas]

I’m out of the loop on a lot of this, but shouldn’t Intel be more worried about AMD than Apple?

Yea, they should ... but you can't make catchy "double dongle" commercials against AMD.

Intel, now, is seemingly marketing to the PC demographic equivalent of the stereotypical Apple consumer who is supposed to be so oblivious and so ignorant about performance difference that they only care about the status symbol of and trendiness of their PC / laptop.

I mean, each of these commercials seems to be going after that "Tee-hee-hee, that's so true about Apple!" vibe, but in the worst possible way. Instead of a version of "Intel: For the ones who get it done" each commercial stresses "OoooOoooOoo, Intel!" or "Look at this gimmick I can do!" or "Chaa.... Ya, brah. You don't want to be a square." which is just painful. Even if you're the type of person that wants to champion the MS Surface Pro, 2-in-1's, convertibles, or just doesn't want the lock-in of or to support the "We know best, so we'll make the choices for you" mindset of Apple -- these commercials are just terrible.

Like the Double Dongle and "Hey, we don't leave anything out of the box." ads from Samsung, these won't age well. M1x is right around the corner and even PC enthusiasts know that the M1 powered Macs are a really big deal.

 

[MBAir2010]

well, what else is Intel going to promote?
or should i say their hired contracted marketing schmucks who thought of this crap
during the recent conflicts wars were every one was against each other, even conjoined twins!

 

[star-affinity]

You can set the “show desktop” on the Mac to the lower right corner, just FYI. No button required.

Hot corners... Not an option?

Why so complicated? Just set up a Hot Corner (or whatever it's called in English) in System Preferences and you're good to go. I'm using this since at least MacOS X 10.4 Tiger - long before Windows even dreamt of this functionality.

Thanks, I know about that feature and I use it daily. But what I mean is for an easy way to hide all apps (except the Finder), mimicking going to the Finder and doing "Hide Others" from the Finder menu.

This is something other than temporarily moving all app windows out of the way that a hot corner does.

Sometime when the display gets too cluttered with visible windows from all running apps this is a way to "clear things up" and then being able to jump to just the apps I want to have visible by a click on the icon of the app in the Dock or by switching to it using the app switcher (cmd tab).

Show the 'Desktop', whatever for?
No matter, that's a fairly backwards and limited way of using the filesystem!!!
Access the Desktop in the File Manager just like any other folder, because the only thing that comes to mind, (which is pointless anyway) in displaying the desktop, is to look at the picture.

I know Windows users often use the Desktop as a dumping ground, so displaying and managing files inside the desktop folder is best done in file manager even if it is that limited Windows POS Explorer that can't calculate folder sizes or let the user display the contents of more than one folder in the same window...lol super ancient OS in every way...nothing more than Windows 95 with faulty blow-J0b proof lipstick, after several deep throats, the clown face appears eh eh eh

I don't think it's only Windows users that uses the desktop as a "dumping ground" – pretty common for Mac users too.

Anyway, if you look at my answer above my point to "hide all apps" was not necessarily to reach the desktop but to "clear up the screen" of running apps and their windows.

Still, I do think there's a point in having some items on the desktop that's currently being worked on, since it's more of a "physical" location (items lay in a static place) compared to viewing other foldes in the Finder and it's a "space" that's quickly reachable from any app when using a "hot corner" to quickly grab or interact with something on the desktop.

 

[The Game 161]

Embarrassing from intel

 

[31 Flavas]

well, what else is Intel going to promote?
or should i say their hired contracted marketing schmucks who thought of this crap
during the recent conflicts wars were every one was against each other, even conjoined twins!

Intel should maybe just not do anything, at all, at least, tv / ad commercial wise. Yea, intel has problems. For the past decade they've stumbled and failed to progress beyond 14nm. Figure that out. Maybe it's bean counters. Maybe it was complacency. Maybe instead, if you still don't have a clue, just watch a documentary on yourself from YouTube. Anything else, but make these stupid ridiculously biased ass comparison articles or ad commercials.

I think Rene Ritchie said it best. Intel is the market leader. They should let the rest of the world keep thinking that. Rather then admit to the world - admit to your self - that your CPUs aren't hot **** anymore. Then make anyone who did jump ship regret that they ever went Epyic or M1X or just doubted you in the first place. If you're Coke - you don't do a Pepsi challenge; Because you're the market leader! Comparisons to your product are for everyone else. As a market leader, you don't provide attention to your competition - or invite the very demographic that you want to sell to, knowledge of the competition.

i.e. Intel is choosing to put themselves in second place by doing these terrible comparisons and ad spots.

 

[Homy]

One of the best articles I've read on the subject. Intel and AMD will soon fall behind because they simply can not implement the same technological development as Apple does. Both the x86 architecture and their entire business model have limitations that to some extent can only be solved by switching to ARM. Not even then will they be able to have the same control and opportunity for innovation.

What Makes Apple Silicon So Fast?

Real world experience with the new Macs has sunk in. They are fast. Real fast. But why? What is the magic?

debugger.medium.com

 

[cmaier]

One of the best articles I've read on the subject. Intel and AMD will soon fall behind because they simply can not implement the same technological development as Apple does. Both the x86 architecture and their entire business model have limitations that to some extent can only be solved by switching to ARM. Not even then will they be able to have the same control and opportunity for innovation.

What Makes Apple Silicon So Fast?

Real world experience with the new Macs has sunk in. They are fast. Real fast. But why? What is the magic?

debugger.medium.com

They can solve them in lots of other ways besides switching to Arm.

They can switch to SPARC. They can switch to MIPS. They can switch to Power. They can switch to RISC-V. They can invent their own RISC instruction set.

 

[Homy]

They can solve them in lots of other ways besides switching to Arm.

They can switch to SPARC. They can switch to MIPS. They can switch to Power. They can switch to RISC-V. They can invent their own RISC instruction set.

Well, maybe technically but since many others like Apple/Samsung/Qualcomm/ use ARM, and Nvidia kind of bought ARM and Microsoft also has ARM computers and OS and Intel hasn't done anything but ridiculous ads and AMD is also working on ARM SoC I think it will take very long time before they do something else and even then they will go in the same direction. We'll see if and when.

 

[cmaier]

Well, maybe technically but since many others like Apple/Samsung/Qualcomm/ use ARM, and Nvidia kind of bought ARM and Microsoft also has ARM computers and OS and Intel hasn't done anything but ridiculous ads and AMD is also working on ARM SoC I think it will take very long time before they do something else and even then they will go in the same direction. We'll see if and when.

I generally agree, with the caveat that the fact that nvidia bought Arm actually increases the likelihood that some big player instead goes a different way.

 

[Nütztjanix]

Thanks, I know about that feature and I use it daily. But what I mean is for an easy way to hide all apps (except the Finder), mimicking going to the Finder and doing "Hide Others" from the Finder menu.

This is something other than temporarily moving all app windows out of the way that a hot corner does.

Sometime when the display gets too cluttered with visible windows from all running apps this is a way to "clear things up" and then being able to jump to just the apps I want to have visible by a click on the icon of the app in the Dock or by switching to it using the app switcher (cmd tab).



I don't think it's only Windows users that uses the desktop as a "dumping ground" – pretty common for Mac users too.

Anyway, if you look at my answer above my point to "hide all apps" was not necessarily to reach the desktop but to "clear up the screen" of running apps and their windows.

Still, I do think there's a point in having some items on the desktop that's currently being worked on, since it's more of a "physical" location (items lay in a static place) compared to viewing other foldes in the Finder and it's a "space" that's quickly reachable from any app when using a "hot corner" to quickly grab or interact with something on the desktop.

You could try “Command” + “Option” + “H” + “M”, which hides all windows so you get to the Desktop. The active application will still be the one you last worked in, but I think that's the closest you'll get to the desired behaviour.

You might even be able to define another, easier shortcut for this in System Preferences.

 

[MacBH928]

Not necessarily, they did about the same with e.g. AMD, Cyrix and Transmeta in the 1990s and had antitrust cases in Japan and the EU.

I don't understand your reply, not necessarily what? and did the same, what was the same?

 

[MacBH928]

RISC/ARM has been a part of PC land for a while now. Also Intel isn't at 85% but 78.3% with AMD at 7.1% and AMD already has been marketing its ARM chip, the Opteron, since 2016.

Intel's behavior in this is just bizarre; unlike Apple they don't make computers. There is so much out of their control that it isn't funny.

Just who are the commercials for? Can't be the shareholders as if they have any brains they can see though this. Can't be the majority of PC users because they, odds are, will stick with what they know.

I think its a quick PR stunt maybe, before Intel deemed as the "bad and old tech" brand, kind of like the stigma that Nokia phone has now, or Yahoo search. They probably want to adjust the brand identity in the mind of the consumer and show Intel is still cool...until they get their act together.

 

[star-affinity]

You could try “Command” + “Option” + “H” + “M”, which hides all windows so you get to the Desktop. The active application will still be the one you last worked in, but I think that's the closest you'll get to the desired behaviour.

You might even be able to define another, easier shortcut for this in System Preferences.

Thanks, I now about that way too.
Don't necessarily have to hide/minimize the Finder windows, but it doesn't hurt to have it as an option.

A ”Command” + ”option” and click on the Finder does what I want, but it seems it doesn't always hide all apps, for some reason.

Aha!
I was just going to link to the app Show Desktop and say that does what I want, but hasn't been updated to 64 bit – but I see now it has as per version 2.0! So now I'm happy.

everyday software : show desktop

Show Desktop is simple application for macOS which hides all running applications and shows the desktop in a single click.

www.everydaysoftware.net

 

[Naraxus]

And what @Shanghaichica posted isn’t remotely false either.

It's completely false. Explain why, if that were the case, why my pc has never had a virus/malware and is seven years old?

 

[Naraxus]

Too little, too late

Not even remotely

 

[Cyprusian]

Just who are the commercials for? Can't be the shareholders as if they have any brains they can see though this. Can't be the majority of PC users because they, odds are, will stick with what they know.

On the other hand it could be an attempt by Intel to keep the majority of Windows PC users loyal to their brand.

 

[Maximara]

I think its a quick PR stunt maybe, before Intel deemed as the "bad and old tech" brand, kind of like the stigma that Nokia phone has now, or Yahoo search. They probably want to adjust the brand identity in the mind of the consumer and show Intel is still cool...until they get their act together.

The issue is getting their act together. We have seen again and again what happens when a company misses the boat because they are too locked into their ways - by the time they realize they need to get their act together its too late.

Sears is a prime example as they were the Amazon of their day with people ordering things via their paper catalog; they had the infrastructure to become what Amazon is now but they threw it all away in 1993 when they killed their catalog. The very next year, 1994, Amazon was founded. Yes, Amazon didn't become profitable until 2001 but that was because they had to effectively build everything from scratch; Sears already had much of that infrastructure.