How goes going after Apple's Macs help them in regards to AMD? As I said it makes no flipping sense.
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Intel Launches Heavily Biased 'PC vs. Mac' Comparison Website
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It has nothing to do with getting people to switch to PC and everything to do with them being butthurt that apple (and most PC gamers in 2020 including myself) have moved on. Your comparison to Sears was 10/10, the one down the street from me closed not that long ago
This is about local processing in a browser and specifically Chrome. Doing those things online are usually done on the server side and pushed to the client side, where the chipset doesn’t really affect the speed of anything except the display of webpages with the results. I don’t doubt that apps doing this locally exists in something extremely niche, but I haven’t seen any major players do this.
Apple stated when they announced their transition to Apple Silicon that it would take 2 years. We have not even hit one year. Based on Apple’s sales numbers, they are not having any trouble selling either their Intel-based or Apple Silicon-based machines. Not sure on what you are basing your statements, do you have a source to support your claims?
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Just curious, are you saying that Intel‘s design and manufacturing issues have not put them in a precarious position in the market or just that you believe they will be able to recover and retake their dominant position in laptop, desktop and server systems?
I think that Apple are in a much better position, they control the hardware and the software. M1 Macs have great battery life and have decent speed. I think it’s a great start for Apple, this is their first chip for the Mac, think about how much faster and better these chips will get over the next few years. I think this campaign by Intel stinks of desperation.
Personally I’m waiting for a M1 iMac with a redesign, it would be a great desktop.
Right and if Intel isn't careful they could become the new Sears - by the time they realize they messed up it will be too late. It seams everybody woke up to the fact that they need to diversify and started putting AMD and a few even ARM CPUs in their machines with the later as far back as 2016.
I am reminded of what happened to the Eastland Shopping mall (Columbus, OH) when I was growing up. The earliest I can remember (1970s) all three anchor stores (Lazarus, Sears, and JC Penneys) had three floors. As time passed they went down to 2 floors and then 1 by the late 1980s. I found out you can digitally walk through the mall via google maps and all the anchor stores are now gone.
It didn't happen overnight but the signs were there from the beginning that the indoor malls were headed for a fall. With computers things will be far faster and certainly not take 50 years. Unless they go Commodore I don't think they will go out of business but unless Intel does something with their production they, like IBM, could find themselves a minor player in the industry they helped create.
Essentially computers are going to plummet in many years. Microsoft is working on Windows in the Cloud where all you need is a thin client with internet access $200 or so and have access to a powerful system in the cloud. We need our internet infrastructure improved though, I cannot play xCloud due to input lag for example.
I am not sure when it will happen, but it will happen at some point.
I will be curious if this will be less expensive than owning my own machine. I guess it will depend on the over subscription rate. It is easy to see getting 3 to 1, (figuring three shifts), but 5 to 1 (or greater) seems possible.
I would expect that as more of the carriers move to fiber and cable ISP move to symmetric DOCSIS, this will improve.
Yeah only when they’re losing hard. They’ve put plenty of marketshare pie charts and bragged about them in several WWDCs/iPhone releases…
Intel should have compared the current generation Intel Macs to their M1 counterparts. For example, what does it say of Intel that the i9 based iMac Pro with desktop processor pegged to 100% with fans at full speed/noise is still slower than a MBA M1 based laptop which doesn't get warm running the same tests?
Yes, but this is about what intel used to benchmark against the M1. It specifically says that the “online photo enhancement” was done in Chrome. Apple Photos is a native application and does not do its processing with the browser. Again, quoting from intel‘s webpage:
The problem there is that Intel told Apple they would have certain CPUs of certain quality out at a certain time. Apple planned their designs for that and Intel dropped the ball - hard.
Not only was Skylake late and hotter then expected but it was a buggy mess. As François Piednoël stated "The quality assurance in Skylake was abnormally bad. (...) Basically the bad quality assurance of Skylake is responsible for [obliging them] to go away from the platform. I think I witnessed this inflection about three years ago when they said, 'Yeah, time to do it'."
Apple was already annoyed with Intel continually promising the moon and effectively giving them green cheese. Heck Intel hasn't been able to follow its own roadmap for years; it nearly to the point that the only way it would be worse it if they were run by Captain Wrongway Peachfuzz.
We know from what AMD has produced that Intel could have done far more with the x86 code but even AMD is running into issue with that archatecture as demonstrated with their issues with the Ryzen 5000. Now admittedly that could have just been a bad batch or other factors (RAM incompatibility has been pointed to) but it could all be signs that the architecture has become a bloated aged mess and needs to be sent to the nearest glue factory.
That’s where computing started, with VT100 terminals talking to a central mainframe.
It turns out that centralized computing has some upsides, but a lot of downsides too.
Here’s what you wrote:
“I don’t doubt that apps doing this locally exists in something extremely niche, but I haven’t seen any major players do this.”
I was merely pointing out a fairly major player that “does this”.
Whoever is in charge of Intel marketing and pulls a move like that, is lost. There is a saying in business: "Talk good about me, talk bad about me, just talk about me." Free promotion for Apple, not to mention Intel is sinking super fast. In last 8 years, Apple ARM chip performance increased by 300%, while Intel only by 45%. I would not be surprised to see Intel gone in 5 years, unless they get some alien technology to create a new super chip. Remember how Blockbuster pulled the same moves on Netflix, but it was already too late? I hope people are dumping their Intel shares before is too late.
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It was even worse with Blockbuster because they were offered to buy Netflix but were too entranced by the shinny that was big box video rentals. In intel's case it isn't just Apple's version of ARM (which as shown with Window 10 on ARM) is twice as fast as Microsoft's efforts
If not for the economic crisis, Blockbuster would likely have held on. They were more or less in the same place as Netflix, but were saddled with debt from Icahn, and couldn’t attract financing.
Actually The Decline of Blockbuster...What Happened? shows there were other issues - like getting involved in the whole Enron mess and continuing with a model that anyone paying attention would have known was doomed.
If you read the first comment in the thread it was pointing to specifically about that line on Intel’s website which I quoted.
M1 faster than Intel's offering for a given laptop constraints? Sure.
Faster than AMD's offerings? That's debatable.
All in all, it's AMD that stands to benefit the most from this Apple-bashing campaign:
- Free advertising
- Better processor technology (than Intel's)