"in terms of clock speed" ?
Oh no, not again...
Come on intel, your marketing should do better than this.
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Intel Launches 'World's Fastest Mobile Processor' With 24 Cores
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I kinda miss the way intel processors used to heat my room. It’s been cold lately.
Raptor lake mobile and the upcoming amd dragon range are some seriously powerful mobile processors. According to Asus, dragon range mobile can approach 7950x performance in some tasks when overclocked. x86 lives on. Meteor lake and Strix Point are coming.
Competition from the brands results in excellent products for us consumers.
Competition from the brands results in excellent products for us consumers.
Exactly. So an iMac is mobile.
There used to be a distinction between portable and mobile. Of course a laptop is portable, but it’s not mobile like a phone. There is still a need to distinguish between something that can be easily put in a backpack vs easily put in a pocket.
For those that disagree, tell me Intel didn’t intentionally say “world’s fastest mobile processor” hoping the mind would immediately make a comparison to Apple’s mobile processors.
Apple by the way distinguishes between a mobile phone processor and a portable laptop processor.
If those racks are on wheels that counts as a portable!
I think this is exciting. Competition is good for the consumer. 🤓
To me the reasonable distinction is between something you stick in a pocket vs something that needs a backpack at least. Of course iPads and laptops can straddle the line, but the power issue becomes very real at the actual mobile size. So I guess the other distinction is battery. That’s what everyone is making fun of them for in this thread, and they didn’t even mean for mobile.
Intel already made fine laptop processors, and they have yet to make anything notable at all in terms of a true mobile processor like the A15, so I think they purposely called it a mobile processor for attention, because “Intel has fast but hot laptop processor” is not news at all.
I never understood why people compared the M1 Ultra to AMD and Intel chips. The M1 Ultra is physically a behemoth and much, much more expensive to produce than equiivalent AMD and Intel chips. Also, Apple only sells a very small quantities each year. AMD and Intel chips in the same weight class, on the other hand, are much smaller, cost only a fraction to produce and sell many more units per year. Frankly, Apple is cheating with the M1 Ultra. No other chip maker has enough money to make it.
Technically it does, or could. It’s interesting that Apple seems to have the opposite problem with the Mac Pro. Honestly I don’t see anything wrong with the Mac pro continuing to be Intel based. The issue there is not efficiency, it’s power and expandability and the traditional desktop model still works for that.
Yes, I just got a 17" gaming laptop with an i7-12700h and an NVidia 3070. It has impressive performance and I never need to use it on battery for long - maybe a few hours a time (it has maybe 4 hours lol).
I love the Apple Mx series, nothing can touch Apple on power/perf and that blissful silence (since M1), but there are use-cases for both.
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Ha yeah I don’t really mean to disparage them, I just prefer a desktop for gaming but I can see why people get them, to just have everything including monitor all in one unit. Definitely not gonna be gaming on battery for long but I don’t think anyone really expects them to.
They tend to have more problems but then again gaming computers can be a bit fiddly anyway. Being a laptop too they just get it double.
More smoke & mirrors from Intel, Turbo boost lasts for a few seconds, it will be very power hungry which will destroy batteries and top speeds will only be achieved with a power cable. Intel still haven't clocked that power hungry processors are yesterdays news 🤣
Intel today announced the launch of its 13th-generation processor lineup, which is headlined by the flagship Intel Core i9-13980HX, a 24-core 5.6GHz laptop chip that Intel says is the "world's fastest mobile processor" in terms of clock speed.
Apple no longer uses Intel chips in its Macs, with the exception of the Mac mini and the yet-to-be-updated Mac Pro with Intel Xeon chips, but Intel is now a direct competitor, supplying processors that compete with Apple's own M-series Apple silicon chips.
Intel claims that the 5.6GHz turbo boost clock speed of the new Core i9 chip is the fastest mobile processor as of December 2022, with 11 percent faster single-thread performance and 49 percent faster multitask performance over the prior-generation Intel Core i9-12900HK chip. The Intel Core i9-13980HX features eight performance cores, 16 efficient cores, and 32 threads, along with support for up to 128GB RAM.
The prior-generation chip outperforms the everything but the M1 Ultra on multi-core Geekbench benchmarking tests (barely beating out the M1 Max), but it cannot compare when it comes to power efficiency as Apple silicon chips consume much less energy. The new Intel Core i9-13980HX from Intel will likely be faster than current Apple silicon chips, but designed for performance-focused power-hungry laptops that do not directly compete with Apple's Mac lineup.
It is worth noting that Intel has long offered faster turbo boost clock speeds than Apple silicon chips, as the M2 reaches just 3.5GHz. Intel last year made the same "fastest mobile processor" claims for the Intel Core i9-12900HK, comparing it to the M1 Max, but it did get beat by the M1 Ultra that Apple debuted later in the year. Apple is working on M2 Pro, Max, and Ultra chips that could better compete with the 2022 Intel Core i9-13980HX.
Intel today also announced the launch of a suite of more efficient 13th-generation P-series and U-series chips with up to 14 cores that will be available for thinner, lighter laptops.
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They are in the mega hurts war against AMD again. They replay this game something like every 8 years.
Apple sales really skyrocketed when they started using Intel chips because it expanded their user base to include people who needed or work or wanted to run Window, Linux, and Mac on one machine. With either BootCamp to multiple or using VM software people could cover all bases with one Mac. With Apple Silicon and Apple prices skyrocketing some of those user are already going back to Intel based machines. Apple moving over Intel could move them back on their own again like when the were using the 6502, 68000 family, then IBM G3 a d G4 chips. Apple silicon great for hardcore Mac users, but not so much for people that need to run multiple OSes.
M1 Ultra on a Mac Studio scores over 24000, so stop lying and the GPU is on another planet from the lap top u mention!
It's intended for gaming laptops and mobile workstations. Users of those machines really don't care about the battery life. Apple simply does not compete in this market. Macs' great battery life would be relevant if they did. Right now, the fact that computers from different classes have different battery life should not surprise anyone.
Nah.
Yes, once they got over the 10nm hump with Ice Lake and added heterogeneous cores with Alder Lake, they were able to put their neverending Skylake+++++ days behind. But as far as performance per watt goes — which has been consistently an Apple goal; they cited it all the way back in 2005 as a reason to move to Intel in the first place! — Apple is still well ahead.
Yeah I'm wheelchair bound and find using a desktop physically difficult and painful. Having a laptop on a "lap-table" on my lap and being able to tilt my wheelchair back to various degrees during the day for comfort, while using the laptop, is a vastly superior solution. My hand can't hold a mouse anyway, so the trackpad right in front is convenient.
Never had any problems with my laptops, I tend to buy brands like Sager that are easily repairable so I can upgrade/replace RAM/SSD/WiFi card/Fans myself, they tend to last a very long time, especially as I don't play the latest AAA games but rather MMO's like GuildWars2 and stuff like the upcoming BG3 (which, btw, will come out for Apple Silicon as well because Larian is awesome!).
Dell will most likely attempt to cram this into an XPS 15 laptop, which is relatively thin and light for its size class. (And Dell will most likely fail miserably at designing any sort of adequate thermals for this beast of a chip).
The whole point of efficiency cores is to handle as much as possible without having to fire up the energy-hungry performance cores. Having either more efficiency cores or faster efficiency cores will help with battery life and overall efficiency.
The A15 and M2 are good examples of this - the Blizzard efficiency cores in those two chips are significantly faster than the Icestorm efficiency cores on the A14/M1 - approximately 23% faster while using the same amount of energy, thus resulting in some impressive battery gains for A15 and M2-equipped systems while still being faster overall.