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Intel Says New Core i9 Processor for Laptops is Faster Than Apple's M1 Max Chip

Yuck9 said:
Everyone is out to dog Intel on this news. What you don't understand is this is a good thing. We the buyer get faster chips and a lower cost. A win in my book.
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You’d have to exclude “we the Mac buyers” because they don’t get anything 🙂 It’s a win in a book that’s not in their library! LOL
 
DBZmusicboy01 said:
lol with 1 hour battery life likely 🤣
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yes and only available on laptops in the $3500-and-up class? I'm a PC guy but my M1 MBA kills anything PC that's out there in the MBA price range, I mean not even close. Little Dell 9310's with Core i5's are in the $2k range...can only imagine what an i9 would come in at, let alone thermal accomodation.
 
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jhromeror said:
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Intel releases Next Gen laptop charging ports for the upcoming i9 processor.
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Actually be somewhat funny if you had use plugs that people can relate to.

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Shouldn't Intel's real competition be AMD? I mean, I have an AMD laptop and it's amazingly fast. Can't say the same for my work laptop, which has an Intel processor on it. Sometimes the laptop is in idle state and fans are running at full speed.

I mean Mac users are Mac users, because they most likely do not want to run Windows. I don't know. It just doesn't make sense to me as in why Intel is constantly attacking Apple. Apple is not going back as it'd look extremely bad.
 
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pshufd said:
A lot of computers are used for mining these days which is why GPUs cost a fortune. There are videos coming out regularly complaining about the GPU situation. Apple doing their own is a good solution to the problem but not for gamers.
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Wouldn’t it be funny if the most readily available high performance GPU in the future was shipping in macOS systems? LOL
 
JMacHack said:
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1% of people, lmao. What are you, 12? I’m definitely not 1% of the population and I’m using my machines solely for work anymore.

Extrapolating this statement, if gaming was the primary use of a computer for 99% of the population them Macs wouldn’t exist, nor Linux.
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No, Macs would still exist, it’s just that none of them would be used by folks to play Mac games… which, I mean, is reality right? As a result, any people you may meet from time to time that SAY they are Mac gamers are merely the products of a deranged imagination. 😉
 
sirozha said:
Maybe because every Windows laptop I’ve ever seen has been plastic?
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I'm not sure why them being metal is preferred. It makes my wrists ache/cold. I'd rather have a plastic housing. It's why I spend a lot more time on a plastic-keyboard-equipped iPad Pro than a laptop. Well, part of the reason anyway.

Some of us don't care about the supposedly more upscale/expensive appearance. And, all things equal, I'd suspect a laptop with a plastic shell can be lighter. If the laptop doesn't *need* the metal because of using it as a heatsink, plastic for me please.
 
pshufd said:
There are people that live in warm climates without air conditioning. And certainly countries where electricity is expensive. Or you may just like a quiet environment where you work. Or you may just want efficient systems. Or you may want a mobile system that can double as a desktop replacement.
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What's quieter than liquid cooling?
 
sirozha said:
Maybe because every Windows laptop I’ve ever seen has been plastic?
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Maybe because you haven't looked around enough. Lenovo Legions, for example, are metal and I'm sure there are others. Aluminum isn't as exotic vs titanium/magnesium that you hype it up to be and is actually relatively cheap that's why soda/beer cans are made from it. Plus, even plastic Thinkpads are mil-spec which Macbooks are not.
 
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Liquid coolers, at least the ones I use, have no fans. You literally just plug the pump's power into one of the fan connectors and that's it. So no sound unless you think you can hear that tiny pump (you can't). It circulates water from the CPU to the passive radiator.
 
Unregistered 4U said:
Wouldn’t it be funny if the most readily available high performance GPU in the future was shipping in macOS systems? LOL
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That is like taunting the miners, there is a bountiful amount of Apple hardware just waiting for a software rewrite to get all of the hash rate…
 
tomO2013 said:
So turns out that Intel used ICC for this ’benchmark’ and LLVM on M1 Max. As was observed elsewhere, it isn’t the first time that shenanigans have been used to sqew results as was originally mentioned when ICC was instructed to run a deliberately slower code path for AMD processors who could also benefit from compilation optimizations from ICC.
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They used the Apple's Xcode compiler for the M1 and Intel's ICC compiler for the Alder Lake. How is that "shenanigans"? And just in case you didn't now, LLVM is not a compiler but a compiler framework (and, BTW, ICC also uses LLVM now). Apple has every opportunity to optimize the Xcode compiler (and particularly their back end for the M1), so it's only fair that Intel is given the same opportunity.
 
Unregistered 4U said:
Cranking the clock rate is a crutch. Once Intel’s ok with performance increases DEPENDING on cranking the clock rate, it’ll be REALLY hard for them to get their engineers off that horse.
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The mainstream Alder Lake desktop parts are the most power efficient retail CPUs you can currently buy when you measure the performance per Watt. See e.g.:

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People make the mistake of only looking at the peak consumption of the aggressively turbo-boosted enthusiast versions. But the more reasonably clocked Alder Lakes are actually very efficient and also perform very well. There is good reason to assume the same will hold for the mobile parts.
 
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Unregistered 4U said:
Wouldn’t it be funny if the most readily available high performance GPU in the future was shipping in macOS systems? LOL
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Its heading that way! Adobe is crashing HARD on my Windows system with my AMD 5700XT (others with the same GPU report the same problems) so I was looking for ANY NVIDIA card a few months ago. Even the GTX 1060 was selling for a few hundred. And I certainly don't want to just buy a pre-built system just for the GPU. So I just ended up decommissioning my Windows PC and Adobe work and just am using my M1 Max Macbook Pro even though After Effects with Plug-ins are rosetta.
 
Ethosik said:
Its heading that way! Adobe is crashing HARD on my Windows system with my AMD 5700XT (others with the same GPU report the same problems) so I was looking for ANY NVIDIA card a few months ago. Even the GTX 1060 was selling for a few hundred. And I certainly don't want to just buy a pre-built system just for the GPU. So I just ended up decommissioning my Windows PC and Adobe work and just am using my M1 Max Macbook Pro even though After Effects with Plug-ins are rosetta.
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I picked up GTX1650 in 2020 for $170 and now they are selling $350 - $400 easily
 
diamond.g said:
That is like taunting the miners, there is a bountiful amount of Apple hardware just waiting for a software rewrite to get all of the hash rate…
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I’m hoping that, at some point in the future, a new GPU is sufficiently powerful enough for mining companies to potentially offload some of their older cards. Then, those using PC’s will be able to obtain 3-5 year old GPU’s at, well, probably still an inflated price, BUT they’d be “available” at least 🙂

You CAN still buy them as a part of integrated systems, right? They’re just not selling them to people that already have computers?
 
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