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Did Intel even make it through one tick-tock-tock cycle? Cannon Lake is the die shrink that should be happening right about now and Ice Lake is the new architecture update that follows. Coffee Lake sounds pretty much like Intel is releasing something just for the sake of getting something "new" to market.

Also, regarding the Ice Lake name. I wish Intel would have changed the nomenclature like they have in the past. Haswell and Broadwell were the same generation. Skylake, Kaby Lake, Coffee Lake, and Cannon Lake are the current generation. Ice Lake sounds like a simple continuation of the current line.
 
Coffee ain't nothing. I'll be waiting for Latte Lake.

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You upgrade every generation ?

Yes. The little extra expense (the difference between what I sell my old machine for and the price of a new one is usually just a couple hundred bucks) is well worth the added productivity and I can easily make up that money in a matter of a week or two.
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Don't Macs usually have the latest Intel CPUs?

Not at all. Usually they're released a generation or two behind the current offerings. Sometimes they have the latest CPU but it's infrequent.

The current MBP for instance is I believe 2 generations behind.
 
Stop chasing nanometers, give us more cores (to reasonable prices).

Ten years ago I bought my first quad core. Now it's 2017 and that is still what is offered to consumers. What if the number of cores would have doubled every two year. Then I would have had a 128 cores machine by now and software developers would have been forced to write programs for multiple processor to stand the competition.
 
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At least Ice Lake actually makes sense. What the hell is "Kaby" Lake?
Most Intel codenames are based on relatively obscure geographical locations. As it has been suggested this generally ensures that the name isn't patentable and doesn't refer to anything political (though there can be overlap). But Intel has also kept the second part of the name the same over a tic-toc cycle recently and some of the names have used fairly generic and common words (Coffee, Cannon, Ice, Forest).

And to your initial question: Kaby Lake is the shortened name for Kabinakagami Lake, a large lake approximately 70 miles north of Wawa, Ontario.
 
What if the number of cores would have doubled every two year. Then I would have had a 128 cores machine by now and software developers would have been forced to write program for multiple processor stand the competition.

I wish multi-threading were just a matter of developers being too lazy.
 
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Yes. The little extra expense (the difference between what I sell my old machine for and the price of a new one is usually just a couple hundred bucks) is well worth the added productivity and I can easily make up that money in a matter of a week or two.
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Not at all. Usually they're released a generation or two behind the current offerings.
Not quite. With a few exceptions, Macs get the processor generation that is current at time of the release of the new Mac model. The Mac lines that make up the vast majority of Mac sales (currently MBP, MB, iMac, previously the MBA instead of the MB) also have been on a very rough one-year release cycle.

A few things throw this off somewhat:
  1. Some Mac lines are on a long ride into the sunset or least were headed that way: Mac Pro, Mac Mini, since this year the MBA, previously the 13" non-retina MBP. Apple just keeps selling the product without updating as long it thinks this has still positive effects.
  2. The yearly update cycle can be heavily out-of-sync with Intel's cycle. At worst, Apple might release a new Mac and one month later, new suitable CPUs from Intel come out.
  3. On several occasions, Apple's yearly cycle has become somewhat fluctuating: The last two MBP generations had a cycle of time of 19 months followed by 8 months.
  4. Intel stretches the release of a new generation over an up to nine-month period. Meaning for some CPU types, the chips from the new generation are already available but for the CPU type used in a specific Mac, the new model is not yet out.
The current MBP for instance is I believe 2 generations behind.
Really? So the current MBP has Kaby Lake processors and as this very article reports, Intel is releasing the first Coffee Lake processors, the successor to Kaby Lake, on 21 August. So, at the moment (and even 'more' so at the time of release of current MBP) Kaby Lake is still the current generation, which is quite different from 'two generations behind'. And "officially unveiling" doesn't mean that all variants will be shipping right away, it can take more than six months for all models of Coffee Lake to come out.
 
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For me, Intel has lost some of its appeal to the AMD Ryzen platform.. hmm might have to price a system up... especially now Vega cards are due out.

Vega is out. Mixed reviews. It matches up to the GTX 1080 but falls short of the 1080Ti. The biggest "negative" is the excessive power draw and concerns about the chips running hot. Still, I'd buy one but not ready yet to upgrade.
 
Intel and ice are definitely two words that I would never associate together. #BallBurner
 
Intel is feeling the heat of competion from AMD with processors. Combined with Samsung, TSMC and even Global Foundries matching or beating them process wise, intel has been engaged in knee jerk and irrational behavior of late. They have lost their grip.

I wouldnt be surprised to see that next month Apple releases a processor that eclipses Intels lowest power laptop chips. Lowest power being thermal here, ive lost track of Intels latest naming scheme for the chips in the Mac Book. This just highlights Intels confused marketing, it can be likened to grasping at straws.
 
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Vega is out. Mixed reviews. It matches up to the GTX 1080 but falls short of the 1080Ti. The biggest "negative" is the excessive power draw and concerns about the chips running hot. Still, I'd buy one but not ready yet to upgrade.

Yeah, Ryzen is amazing but Vega is a mixed bag. The 56 seems like the gem. interesting to see how Apple deals with VEGA in the iMac Pro.
 
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Vega is out. Mixed reviews. It matches up to the GTX 1080 but falls short of the 1080Ti. The biggest "negative" is the excessive power draw and concerns about the chips running hot. Still, I'd buy one but not ready yet to upgrade.

I would get the Vega that match s the 1070 card, but not AMDs one, maybe one made by EVGA. Hmm shame about the power draw, wonder how the chip will get on inside the iMac Pro in that case...... :eek:
 
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