Intel Skylake Processors: Up to 20% Performance Boost, 41% Faster Graphics and 30% Longer Battery Life

[bladerunner2000]

I agree that mac is overpriced. But making all parts disposable is good for environment, and thus this should be encouraged. So if this is the reason keeping you away from mac for gaming, I would keep silent.

The fact I think is apple is not eager to design a well performance cooling system, which would break their design a lot. Forcing to throttle device would surely impact application performance.

Apple doesn't make all parts disposable, and by no means did I mean that as a compliment. What I mean by disposable is essentially this;

You buy any current apple computer. Any single part of the computer proves to be dated and you need to throw out the entire computer. Disposable. That's terrible for the environment. Instead of allowing users simply upgrade their computer's parts whenever necessary, Apple forces you to chuck the whole thing.

Disposable, essentially making macs 'one time use'.

 

[Shirasaki]

Apple doesn't make all parts disposable, and by no means did I mean that as a compliment. What I mean by disposable is essentially this;

You buy any current apple computer. Any single part of the computer proves to be dated and you need to throw out the entire computer. Disposable. That's terrible for the environment. Instead of allowing users simply upgrade their computer's parts whenever necessary, Apple forces you to chuck the whole thing.

Disposable, essentially making macs 'one time use'.

Seems that I forget one thing. All components are, OK, maybe not all components, recyclable, not simply disposable. Literally all products out of their life cycle are disposable, but only some of them are recyclable.

 

[bladerunner2000]

Seems that I forget one thing. All components are, OK, maybe not all components, recyclable, not simply disposable. Literally all products out of their life cycle are disposable, but only some of them are recyclable.

Yeah, sure, but not to the end user. Soldered GPUs on desktop computers? Soldered RAM on laptops? Proprietary PCIe slots on Mac Pros (which are SUPPOSED to cater to prosumers?). That's just spitting in the face of the consumer.

 

[CmdrLaForge]

As soon as Skylake comes out you'll have people clamoring over Cannonlake.

The next release is Kaby Lake. Cannonlake is delayed...

 

[opeter]

Personally, I'm bored of people discussing gaming on computers like it's the main purpose of a computer. I never gamed on a PC ever, because I'm simply not interested in that kind of stuff at all. I know you can't imagine that, but I just don't care.

Personally? I don't care, what you think.

 

[dav1dd]

I couldn't take my aging MacBook Pro anymore and ended up buying a new MacBook Pros when they were released a couple months ago. Given that I'm sure Apple would have had Skylake samples quite a while beforehand, would it have killed them to delay the new MacBook Pros just a little bit and go for Skylake instead? I'm now stuck with this miserable, already past it's effective end of life Haswell piece of junk for a few years before I'll be upgrading again...

Worry not; no matter what processor you get, you're still stuck with the nasty that OSX has become.

 

[Serban]

Thanks to Apple and the tradeoffs that they have to made i have now the most powerful All in one computer, no more 10 cables mess no more 2 large components (base+monitor)
Thanks to them again we have portable laptops and powerful laptops like 15" MBP...go back in time like 10 years ago...we have powerful laptops but portable? not really, i think the 21" imac from now is on par with a 17" laptop from 10 years ago

 

[asiga]

Skylake. 20% performance increase. Coming to you January 2019 (*)

(*) notice subject to uncertainties. Final release date may vary.

 

[rdav]

What about the Mac Pro /nMP(6), any chance of some Skylake juice there? Not clear yet it seems. Also, does this (& Alpine Ridge) mean that we can anticipate some upgrades to ThunderBolt-3(40Gb), HDMI(2.0), DP(1.3) etc in late 2015? If so, then .

 

[majkom]

They're not willing to buy a Mac for 2 reasons;

1) They're overpriced.
2) Apple's stupidity with making everything disposable. Try telling PC gamers all GPUs will be soldered to their motherboards.

Reason #2 is why I don't bother with Macs anymore. No choice in PCIe graphics cards means Apple doesn't get my money anymore.

And thats perfectly fine... You made your choice, so what?

 

[prism]

I'm glad I got the broadwell 13" MBP, the skylake HD improvement estimate of 16% is surprisingly puny.

 

[Fangio]

They're not willing to buy a Mac for 2 reasons;

1) They're overpriced.
2) Apple's stupidity with making everything disposable. Try telling PC gamers all GPUs will be soldered to their motherboards.

Reason #2 is why I don't bother with Macs anymore. No choice in PCIe graphics cards means Apple doesn't get my money anymore.

Excellent news! Please act consequently, just go away and stop trolling / posting BS here at MacRumors as well. Thanks.

 

[Serban]

I think the Macbook has the best gain here and makes the best ultra portable

 

[Shirasaki]

Yeah, sure, but not to the end user. Soldered GPUs on desktop computers? Soldered RAM on laptops? Proprietary PCIe slots on Mac Pros (which are SUPPOSED to cater to prosumers?). That's just spitting in the face of the consumer.

You consider this based on a PC gaming user, while some mac users care more about, uh, the whole system. They take care less on detailed configuration, and if hardware system is reconfigurable.

In the future, some manufactures predict, motherboard will be tied with processors, which means replacing individual components becomes less possible. And on board device could eliminate possible issues between components and connectors. Sure this will reduce possible upgrade potential and let DIY becomes less interesting.

 

[Serban]

I hope for the next Macbook to come out this October-November with this cpu more gpu power, 720p camera,1.5-2h battery life increase, 100$ cut and im sold

 

[CEmajr]

Looks like I'll be replacing my 13" Late 2011 Macbook Pro with a 15" Late 2015 rMBP/Early 2016 rMBP.

Can't wait.

 

[manu chao]

They're not willing to buy a Mac for 2 reasons;

1) They're overpriced.
2) Apple's stupidity with making everything disposable. Try telling PC gamers all GPUs will be soldered to their motherboards.

Reason #2 is why I don't bother with Macs anymore. No choice in PCIe graphics cards means Apple doesn't get my money anymore.

See, you fully understand it. Why would Apple make computers that a significant amount of gamers would be interested in if that would mean lower margins?

However, I see a lot of articles/posts about exchanging the GPU on iMacs, meaning they don't generally seem to be soldered to the motherboard.

 

[manu chao]

Apple doesn't make all parts disposable, and by no means did I mean that as a compliment. What I mean by disposable is essentially this;

You buy any current apple computer. Any single part of the computer proves to be dated and you need to throw out the entire computer. Disposable. That's terrible for the environment. Instead of allowing users simply upgrade their computer's parts whenever necessary, Apple forces you to chuck the whole thing.

What percentage of (Windows) PCs are actually upgraded over their lifetime (and lets exclude storage which is less a performance upgrade than a I-just-need-more-space upgrade)? And how many years is a PC used on average compared to a Mac? Hint, the price of a used computer after a number of years gives you an idea whether it will still be used at that time.

 

[maflynn]

Nice, and so far there doesn't seem to be any reports of delays (I hope). I think many folks have been waiting for this to buy their macs. I'm contemplating an iMac at this point so hopefully we'll see a skylake based iMac before the end of the year

 

[manu chao]

I guess this will eventually change over time, and some key Apple employees may make it happen. Currently the main focus had been iOS devices. Future will tell how they manage to do a good implementation of Metal, developers, Apple TV, iOS-OS X consolidation and a game store. I wish this happens sooner than later...

Future Macs will become more gamer-friendly simply by virtue of getting more powerful due to hardware and software improvements (unless gamers up their performance expectations at the same pace).

 

[bobob]

Just bought my 2015 rMBP. Nerts.

Did you believe you'd purchased the final edition?

 

[Jvanleuvan]

I'm so bored of the argument "they aren't gaming Laptops", why not? Why wouldn't Mac users be able to play games? Why are you paying more for less? That argument annoys me as it's ********, I can pay half as much on Windows and get a more capable machine. So what if it isn't made of metal... whocares, I'd rather have functionality thanx.

There is more to a computer than gaming or raw performance.

in the current computing era, unless you are running high-power games (crysis etc) or doing some really heavy computational work like rendering, ie a "regular user", then cpu performance isn't really a problem, an iPad is an order of magnitude less powerful than these Intel systems, and it seems to work fine for most people.

The value of a Mac computer is a couple of different things:

1) build quality: A lot of less expensive windows laptops are built like junk, and don't hold up to being ported around all the time- broken latches, hinges, screens.

2) OS stability: Mac OS X, at least appears, to be more stable than windows; my wife had a cheaper dell laptop that, it seemed, every week IE wouldn't work, or some new ad-ware was giving her troubles, or it wouldn't boot, I got sick of fixing it, now we have a MacBook, I haven't touched it in over a year

3) overall performance, I have a MacBook Air (1st gen) from work as well as windows 7 dell e5440, and for office work, the Mac is faster, it boots faster, it browses the web faster, office starts faster. Now in raw performance, my dell blows it out of the water, but the Mac OS seems much lighter weight than windows,(I'm sure the ssd helps)

If you need top of the line performance for cheap, then a PC is the way to go... If your a regular user; office work, email, browsing, then I highly recommend a Mac.

 

[Narcaz]

To add more fuel to the mac gaming debate: It looks like Intel is finally and officially allowing external Thunderbolt GPUS. So it could be possible to connect your Skylake Macbook with a single cable to powerful docking gpu solution. There is a MSI prototype video:

 

[colourfastt]

I can't stand "lulz" myself. My friend even says the word "lulz" instead of actually laughing in real life. It's awful and how that caught on is beyond me.

Falls into the same category as "bae" and "be like".

 

[LordVic]

To add more fuel to the mac gaming debate: It looks like Intel is finally and officially allowing external Thunderbolt GPUS. So it could be possible to connect your Skylake Macbook with a single cable to powerful docking gpu solution. There is a MSI prototype video:

hoping some truth to this. Cause Intel's ridiculous, and non technical reasons for blocking external GPU's over thunderbolt sucked. was purely done cause they were trying to milk more money by forcing you to stick with their solutions.

even back when they introduced Thunderbolt on the MBA's in 2011, they were able to (through hacks) run an external GPU, and at least provide a mediocre level of gaming.