CWallace
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It depends on whether or not Apple wants to offer the quad-core CPU as an option and, if they do, how quickly Intel can get them sufficient stock to offer it.
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Intel to Deliver Quad-Core Mobile Processors Next Month
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It depends on whether or not Apple wants to offer the quad-core CPU as an option and, if they do, how quickly Intel can get them sufficient stock to offer it.
I guarantee* you there will be no quad-core MBP from Apple within the next 10 weeks. Ain't gonna happen. Don't listen to the hype.
* This guarantee isn't worth the paper it's written on.
macsander
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And what about the Imac, will there be a BTO option for quad withing lets say the next 6-7 weeks?
AidenShaw
macrumors P6
It's possible, but no way of knowing.
In the past, Apple has gone from being first out of the gate with new Intel parts (150watt 3.0GHz quad, shrunken Merom for MBA) to waiting months (Santa Rosa, octo-core Mac Pro). And you can't even use engineering difficulty as a factor (the quad-core chips would drop into the Mac Pro motherboards and run, yet Apple waited months to sell the octo).
Send Steve an email and ask him.
macsander
macrumors regular
If MBP running in Quad-Core then I'm a bit worry aboout the Air Flow of the MBP and also the thickness of the MBP.
~Shard~
macrumors P6
But MBPs never run hot... 😛 😉
Yeah, when it comes to mobile computers, aspects such as thickness, weight, heat are very key, so Apple would indeed need to design with these elements at the forefront. Desktops, not so much (I personally wouldn't care if my iMac was an inch or so thicker) but portables, yes indeed.
macsander
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CWallace
macrumors G5
If the QX9300 quad-core can work in a current iMac's "Santa Rosa Special" motherboard - or Apple is in the process of moving the iMac from "SRS" to Montevina - Apple might offer it as a BTO upgrade option on the 3.06 24" for around $300-500.
If the QX9300 cannot work in the "SRS" motherboards, and Apple will use the "SRS" motherboards until Nehalem, then I can't see Apple releasing it as it would require a new MB specific to support it and that would mean a BTO add-on price of $750-1000 and at that point, you buy a Mac Pro.
Chairman Plow
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Bubba Satori
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Why is a simple cpu announcement hype ? Do they want to be a year behind the pc makers ? Oh, wait, nevermind. 🙄
Like it has been already said, the QX9300 will be a 45W part. Previous 45W parts (2.8GHz EE and 3.06GHz EE) have only be used in the previous 24" iMac and in the current 24" iMac. Obviously, 45W parts won't be used in MBPs in their current form factor.
If Apple chooses to update the iMac to Montevina-based parts, we may see the QX9300 as an option for the 24" iMac (+$200/400 over the 3.06GHz model). I think it could happen in Sept/Oct.
There will be another quad (Q9100 2.26GHz) later this year or early next year, that will be a more affordable and a 35W part. This cpu could be used in a MBP and could be offered as an option (+$400/500 over the 2.80/2.93GHz* model).
* Early 2009, Intel will refresh Montevina, some cpus will get a speedbump or a price cut:
1.86GHz - 2.00GHz (SL)
2.26GHz - 2.40GHz (SP/P)
2.40GHz - 2.53GHz (SP/P)
2.53GHz - 2.66GHz (P/T)
2.80GHz - 2.93GHz (T)
fastlanephil
macrumors 65816
iMacs
It's pretty much a given that the next iMac refresh will have a quad core option. The display option is another matter. Can Apple make a 30" display for under $1000. If not this year I would figure maybe in another year seeing as Dell is selling them now for $1200 although it's not their best.
Would this also have the Apple TV as an option?
It's pretty much a given that the next iMac refresh will have a quad core option. The display option is another matter. Can Apple make a 30" display for under $1000. If not this year I would figure maybe in another year seeing as Dell is selling them now for $1200 although it's not their best.
Would this also have the Apple TV as an option?
AidenShaw
macrumors P6
And who "gave" that out? I checked my inbox for messages from The Lord God Jobs, and no Imac previews were there.
jaikob
macrumors 6502
With great power, comes great responsibility, and for god sakes a better cooling system.
Bubba Satori
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TerrorOFdeath
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Finaly some clear news:
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8825&Itemid=1
But its way too expensive.
Greez
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8825&Itemid=1
But its way too expensive.
Greez
CWallace
macrumors G5
Well with AMD offering no competition, Intel is going back to the old days of $1000 prices for their new top-end CPU.
The 3.2GHz i7 (Nehalem) will launch at $999 while the current top-end Core 2 Duo - the 3.16 GHz E8500 - is now $183.
The Q9100 costs the same price as the current X9100 3.06GHz model in the iMac and will have similar TDPs, so it is probable that Apple will offer it as a BTO option soon after launch for the same price as the 3.06GHz model (or get an extra $100 in raw profit because it's a quad).
The Q9100 would also match the price of the 2.6GHz X8700 available as a BTO option on the MacBook Pro, so it too might become a BTO option for that model.
However, I expect Intel to drop the price of the X9100 and the X8700 (why sell a dualie for the same price as a quad?) so Apple might make the X9100 and X8700 as the base CPU for the iMac and MBP, respectively, and then offering the Q9100 as a BTO extra-cost option for both.
The 3.2GHz i7 (Nehalem) will launch at $999 while the current top-end Core 2 Duo - the 3.16 GHz E8500 - is now $183.
The Q9100 costs the same price as the current X9100 3.06GHz model in the iMac and will have similar TDPs, so it is probable that Apple will offer it as a BTO option soon after launch for the same price as the 3.06GHz model (or get an extra $100 in raw profit because it's a quad).
The Q9100 would also match the price of the 2.6GHz X8700 available as a BTO option on the MacBook Pro, so it too might become a BTO option for that model.
However, I expect Intel to drop the price of the X9100 and the X8700 (why sell a dualie for the same price as a quad?) so Apple might make the X9100 and X8700 as the base CPU for the iMac and MBP, respectively, and then offering the Q9100 as a BTO extra-cost option for both.
What's the TDP of the 2.27 GHz quad-core? It doesn't say.
Early rumors pegged it as 35 W, but I have a bad feeling that it'll be 45 W. 🙁
CWallace
macrumors G5
Intel planned 45W for the QX9300 and 35W for the Q9100. The Register published a link that said Intel was trying to get the QX9300 to 35W, but there has been nothing about it since so I assume it was either unsuccessful or The Reg was confusing the TDP of the Q9100 as being the TDP of the QX9300.
Mind you, the X9100 is 44w, so the QX9300 should be fine in an iMac, but not a MacBook Pro.
From that fudzilla link:
Assuming this does find its place in the 17", does that its mean that its possible at the next update or only much later on?
Assuming this does find its place in the 17", does that its mean that its possible at the next update or only much later on?
CWallace
macrumors G5
Depends.
If both the QX9300 and Q9100 have TDPs of 45W or higher, then it won't work (at least well) in the current MBP form factor due to heat dissipation issues.
However, the rumor mill says that new MBP form factors are coming soon, so those form factors may take into account CPUs with 45w TDPs.