I looked at it again; my error. The AMD's would be preferred for editing of theatrical releases, but otherwise, any of those would be welcome.
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I looked at it again; my error. The AMD's would be preferred for editing of theatrical releases, but otherwise, any of those would be welcome.
To me the point of using an external graphics card is to get desktop class graphics performance from your notebook when it is docked at your desk. Now for me if I was going that route I would want to use a GTX 780 which is incredibly bottlenecked at PCIe 2.0 4x speeds (16Gb/s) and would be bottlenecked at Thunderbolt 2.
And we need to remember that 20Gb/s is the total Thunderbolt 2 bandwidth. So if you're using such a setup you're sacrificing connectivity. Perhaps you have another dock you want to use that offers Ethernet which the MacBook Pro lacks or perhaps a RAID enclosure. The point is you're using up all your bandwidth just for one card.
I know that the Retina MacBook Pro does technically have two Thunderbolt ports but from what I understand Thunderbolt 2 simply takes the 2x 10Gb bandwidth in the Thunderbolt IC and combines them in to one physical connector when a Thunderbolt 2 device is present. So it would appear at first glance that even a Retina MacBook Pro with two Thunderbolt ports could only make use of one port when using a Thunderbolt 2 external graphics chassis.
And finally we have the concern that Apple may stick with Thunderbolt 1 and bandwidth only at 10Gb/s or that chassis only ship at Thunderbolt 1. It has been a number of years since Thunderbolt was introduced and the amount of accessories available is still quite small and most of them still very expensive.
Please elaborate.
If integrated graphics gets you from A to B as fast if not faster than discrete graphics then what difference does it make?
Or do you measure the size of your penis by computer specs?
No way
They won't drop dGPU because there always seems to be enough advances to include them in the new rMBP.
They won't drop dGPU because there always seems to be enough advances to include them in the new rMBP.
ok.....
Anyways, the only applications said article tested were GAMES and GAMES ARE NOT VERY "pro".
I agree with you 100% on your sentiments. I simply wanted to add that, while obviously the subject matter should be the primary concern of the student, for me at least, I like having the latest-and-greatest machine for school. It's definitely overkill but I feel compelled to buy something nice. This is why, this past december, I bought an almost fully loaded $3,400 retina mbp for school whether i need the horse power or not.
I equate it to the same reason people live in nyc and buy ferraris. You're certainly not going to do 200 down 2nd avenue but it's nice to know the horsepower is there when you need it.
I equate it to the same reason people live in nyc and buy ferraris. You're certainly not going to do 200 down 2nd avenue but it's nice to know the horsepower is there when you need it.
Thats like buying a god damn power drill for a screw that you need to tighten.
Its your money, but why would you burn cash like this lol
so, we get MBP with a substandard GPU as apple lose the Nvidia/Ati discrete graphics card to save weight/power consumption/cost AND they charge a premium for it ?
Better still... people should wise up and stop reading too much into marketing jargon. I think you can buy "pro" toothpaste these days.
The HD7770 requires 16X lane width, but according to that thread, you can only have 8X unless it somehow works with two cables.
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OK, makes sense.
Hang on. Why is everybody writing off dGPU for 15"? The main issue with the retinas was the 13" had an HD4000 and that it just wasn't powerful enough to drive the resolution.
Who's to say this piece of news isn't related to 13" only? Given that Apple worked with Blizzard to get Diablo 3 retinafied on the 15", I really doubt they're going to take a step back on the dGPU for the 15".
I say 13" retina with 5200 and 15" still gets a dGPU
Also the 15" would still have two gpus so the auto switching would still happen when your on battery. Apple is ignorant but they're not stupid.
Who's to say this piece of news isn't related to 13" only? Given that Apple worked with Blizzard to get Diablo 3 retinafied on the 15", I really doubt they're going to take a step back on the dGPU for the 15".
I say 13" retina with 5200 and 15" still gets a dGPU
Also the 15" would still have two gpus so the auto switching would still happen when your on battery. Apple is ignorant but they're not stupid.
Apple like always is investing in technology "in the spring" of it. Broadwell will be 40% faster than Iris Pro, and the chips from Skylake(DDR4 which is GDDR5) will bring power that is 2 times of broadwells. That can bring it to the range of... GTX680MX.
Impossible? Well we thought the same about Iris Pro.
Im pretty sure that none of AMD's and Nvidias chips will get even close to the power of future graphics from Intel at that TDP. The bigger - we know the result. But im sure to 40W TDP, Intel will blow anything in the market.
Impossible? Well we thought the same about Iris Pro.
Im pretty sure that none of AMD's and Nvidias chips will get even close to the power of future graphics from Intel at that TDP. The bigger - we know the result. But im sure to 40W TDP, Intel will blow anything in the market.
From what I understand that is only 10Gb in each direction. To combine both of them would only be 20Gb in one direction.
This rumor is adding some fuel, fire, rage to the upgrade inferno. Let's see what comes of it...
I'm a "creative guy" too. I do photography (with Photoshop), video capture/editing (FCPX), website design/engineering and iOS development. Having had a shot at doing such tasks on the 13" RMBP, it's absolutely capable of running all of my tasks very smoothly. The ONLY reason I want the 15" display is because it's bigger, not because it's more capable.
There's a very, very big difference in what suits you, and what suites anyone else. Just because the 13" RMBP doesn't meet YOUR needs, it doesn't mean it doesn't fit someone else's needs, and it certainly does NOT imply that the sales are any less.
And I don't run out and buy every Apple product there is. My current MacBook Pro was purchased in December 2010, and only now just starting to fall behind my needs. My iMac, purchased in 2011 takes everything I throw at it. I only bought my iPhone 5 last year because my contract was up, and was due a renewal. My only "had to buy it now" purchase was the 3rd Gen Apple TV, and I've used it pretty much every day since I bought it.
Don't judge people based on nothing. You're always wrong.
My Late 2008 Unibody MBP has a discreet GPU. It requires you to log off and back on to use it, and it makes the fans spin at 6000 rpm non-stop, while the computer performs slightly better at a very small number of things. Battery life also drops by 2 hours immediately. Since I never bothered switching to it, except a couple of times, I didn't notice that mine was faulty right from the start, and kernel panicked about once every 1-2 weeks. Noticed when it was too late, out of warranty, so I've never really used it.
So yeah, if there's no nVidia chips in my computer, I won't mind!
Less things in a computer = less things that can fail.
So yeah, if there's no nVidia chips in my computer, I won't mind!
Less things in a computer = less things that can fail.
I agree 100% with you and do realize that this is blatent & unnecessary overkill but i still do it. i like showing off too and im honest enough to admit that i am ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.
I dont do this with everything but mostly with tech. Also the reason i always but the newest iphone and only the 64gb model... even though i have 30+ gigs free on it at all times :-x haha
ps - the samsung 840 = FIRE. i use only intel ssd's but appreciate the samsung 840 series.
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Because 16GB RAM on a LAPTOP is good enough for most people ("power users"). Users that need more than 16GB also realize they need a better CPU as well which is why they go for a desktop instead of a laptop. the rMBP with 16gb ram is good enough for the 95% of power users out there, IMO. Everyone else realizes that if this doesn't meet their needs, the next step is to move up to a desktop/imac/mac pro.
I dont do this with everything but mostly with tech. Also the reason i always but the newest iphone and only the 64gb model... even though i have 30+ gigs free on it at all times :-x haha
ps - the samsung 840 = FIRE. i use only intel ssd's but appreciate the samsung 840 series.
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Because 16GB RAM on a LAPTOP is good enough for most people ("power users"). Users that need more than 16GB also realize they need a better CPU as well which is why they go for a desktop instead of a laptop. the rMBP with 16gb ram is good enough for the 95% of power users out there, IMO. Everyone else realizes that if this doesn't meet their needs, the next step is to move up to a desktop/imac/mac pro.
but who care's if the new graphics are integrated? if are more fast than the current NON integrated, who cares? integrated or non integrated the point is that is more fast than the actual.
(Im non an export, so maybe my comment is very stupid, but YOU GOT my point)
(Im non an export, so maybe my comment is very stupid, but YOU GOT my point)
I can't see them taking discrete graphics away from the high end MacBooks... but if they want to drop the non-retinia MacBooks having the 13" have the max horsepower possible in the 13" version will help salvage that image from the first round that weren't spectacular.
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except Intel is using patent power to keep nvidia from releasing an integrated GPU chipset... so using Nvidia means you have to jump through multi-chip solutions with an external GPU. that kills battery life dead because intel makes it inefficient.
...Aaaaaaaand it's still worse for portable gaming than a GameBoy Advance SP
You wish.
If that WERE the case I guess that would make macbook's worse than a ball and jacks.
And no quad. For me seems to be even more important now for the 13" as the integrated one will be much better.