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It’s nice to see Intel back underway - but it does raise a question. Recently there was the report that they’d be ditching their 10nm process and just shifting 14nm onto a 12nm process (and marketing it as 10nm). If this is the case, then as it will lack the density bump that usually accompanies a node shrink then all we can expect is a very slightly cooler chip allowing them to increase clock speeds somewhat... basically like Kaby Lake over Skylake, not a full shrink like Broadwell over Haswell. I have my doubts they will get these out soon enough for a June MBP launch so maybe Apple will delay the MBP 2019 to October again to allow them to use these chips (either way they will be a lot more significant than Whiskey Lake)
 
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You broke a lot of people with your post. Guess it was more subtle than I thought.

Perhaps it's the mentality of people eager to get into disagreements online. They see what they perceive as someone making a mistake and are quicker to point it out than to wait a half-second for their brain to come up with other explanations for what they're seeing.
This. Wit is a lost—or at least underappreciated—art.

Also, people are stupid.

That is all.
 
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I don't think it mattes which lake or cove intel ships. Apple will still do so much thermal throttling that you're never going to see the full performance after the few seconds it takes to pass the benchmark test. And it's all to protect the undersized battery.
 
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Vulture central have a useful breakdown on which intel CPUs are their weaker initial 10nm attempts versus their later generations and how these compare to other folks 10nm. I kind of get Apple's frustration here, but if Apple dump 32bit support and then transition to x86_64-only emulation on their own ARM processors ... well that's like reliving the 68k -> PowerPC -> x86 transition all in one day. I'd keep a Mac for legacy stuff but basically transition out of the platform.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/12/12/intel_architecture_future/
 
(Ignorant in the matter here) Is this version of intel processor already fixed the Spectre and the other exploit problem? I read long time ago it was also a problem in the design of the chip and not just software...
 
Does anyone really trust Intel to deliver on their timelines anymore?

We've had too many "Lucy holding the football" type moments from them to expect Intel to actually come through next year .I would say to NOT expect these products because of the problems they've had hitting 10nm .

I haven’t trusted Intel since the Broadwell fiasco. I have zero confidence that they can actually deliver 10nm volume across there most relevant product lines (H-, S- and U-Series) by the end of 2019.

On the plus side, Intel has got 14nm down pat at this point and just needs to catch up on demand.

I saw something about 7nm, but I started laughing so hard, I fell out my chair and didn’t finish reading the article. Anyways...
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A motto which also keeps you from ever buying a computer. Which, to be fair, would definitely have saved me a lot of money over the years.;)
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Wait, it really was just one??

It would have saved me a lot of money as well.

Yes, the Core i3-8121U - https://ark.intel.com/products/136863/Intel-Core-i3-8121U-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3-20-GHz-
 
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Are… are you guys done explaining SDJim's joke to SDJim?
Thank you, you saved me the trouble. Replies like those you highlighted, make me think humanity is destined for self destruction.
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Only a single Cannon Lake SKU shipped. It's probably dead.

Yep.

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Still unsure about how I feel about Mac moving away from Intel. While I loved my G4 macs, I love my Intel macs wayyyy more....

It's not as if the dev-tools team at Apple doesn't already have enough to do. Now let's throw a new CPU architecture and compiler requirements into the mix.

How about finishing porting everything to Swift, and THEN start dicking around with new chips, Apple?
 
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Hey there! Intel does have some life! Nice.:cool:
Intel releases regular processor updates and has focused on heat/power reduction for some time. It's Apple that takes several years to implement these updates in their hardware. Intel 9th generation processors are out now and many PCs showcase these processors. You won't find any macs 9th gen intel inside. In fact, you'll find many macs still have very outdated 7th gen processors.
 
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