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The phone will become the computer
5g is a hoax almost nobody needs it, until it’s ready, about 2023
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Intel's 5G Chips Won't Appear in Mobile Phones Until 2020
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All vendors are preparing post PC, therefore You need ram and ssd
The phone will become the computer
5g is a hoax almost nobody needs it, until it’s ready, about 2023
Yep not gonna buy any 5G phones (iOS or Android) until all carriers are on board. Wouldn't pay a dime to be a beta tester.
Intel is on their 1st Gen 5G chip, Qualcomm is shipping its 2nd Gen 5G chip, and by the time Intel gets around to theirs shipping Qualcomm will likely have a 3rd 5G Chip. So if power drain is a concern (and it will be like the early LTE Modems were) do you want a 1st Gen Intel or a 2nd/3rd Gen Qualcomm that has better power management?
The first smartphone with LTE being sold commercially was the Samsung Galaxy Indulge starting in February 2010. The iPhone 5 got LTE in September 2012. The 18 month difference didn't really hurt iPhone sales at all.
2010: 40 millions
2011: 72 millions
2012: 125 millions
2013: 150 millions
5G is about more than just speed. Two things that may be an immediate benefit for many are bandwidth and latency.
Also, while you may not need to use lots of data, some people do — especially in bursts.
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Maybe, maybe not. Your conclusion may be true, but your logic is faulty. Just because the sales increased doesn't mean that the numbers wouldn't have been better had LTE been included sooner.
Technology in itself is not important. It is the use of technology to solve problems or tasks in your daily life which is important.
Megapixels on camera is not important -> camera taking good pictures in all kinds of condition important
MHz on CPU not important -> phone running the applications I need at decent speed important
Gb of RAM not important -> running the applications I need at decent speed important
It is the same with networks. I do not care what technology my phone uses as long as I can download what I need at decent speeds and not to high of a latency in some cases.
I do not perform any task on my phone which requires low latency. I do not watch video on it. My median use of mobile phone data is about 1 Gb per month. I very seldom go to places with a lot of people. The public transport system in my city has great LTE coverage and it will be several years for it to have 5G support. No commercial launch of 5G is planned for my country before 2020. There are no public plans for when my mobile operatorer will support 5G.
Also new technology tends to be very bad compared to its second or third iteration. If there is one thing I really like about Apple is that they are usually slow to adapt new technology and in many cases just skip certain technologies. New technology often causes disruption and I dislike that.
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We can never now with 100% certainty since we can repeat history. But if you look at the first LTE phones they had mixed success. The HTC Thunderbolt was a disaster with regards to battery life. The Samsung Galaxy Indulge no ones remember.
The only early LTE phone which had success was the Samsung Galaxy S, and it was not because of LTE but because it was the first Android phone which looked like an iPhone and tried to behave like an iPhone.
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And Telstra has said that full commercial launch will be in FY20 and then only in large cities and other high demand areas.
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So why did not Samsung put 5G in all their new Samsung Galaxy S10s?
To me it clearly shows that there are downsides to putting 5G in phones right now.
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So you think that no one will be bying the Samsung Galaxy S10, Galaxy S10+ and they will all go for the Samsung Galaxy S10 5G?
In 2019 there will be sold probably around 1.3 - 1.4 billions smartphones. Do you think there will be sold more than 1 billion 5G ready phones in 2019?
No worries Apple, Huawei already released their Balong 5000 which supports multi-SIM 4G LTE, [fake] 5G E, and [real] 5G. Users don’t have to choose which line they want for iMessage/FaceTime since you can have both SIMs active on 4G simultaneously.
I’m sure they won’t mind selling to Apple.
I’m sure they won’t mind selling to Apple.
What he was trying to say was that the Qualcomm X50 modem does not support 4G/LTE, only 5G. So you need a 4G modem also and unless you have it integrated with your CPU SoC, will require two chips to support both 4G and 5G.
The X55 do support both 4G and 5G, but I believe it is not ready in any phone right now.
I'm thinking 5G won't be anything to get interested in until at least three years from now once the dust settles and the infrastructure gets built out.
Even then I’m not so sure it’s all that interesting with respect to something like phones. It is much more interesting for infrastructure.
As I said before, I don't need it right now, my second post made that entirely clear.
I don't game, so latency is not important to me, I also said I have fibre optics, latency is very low on that one, most of the time I use my fibre so I don't need anything more.
Not sure I care in 2019. Not even sure i care in 2020. I think 5G has more benefit as another option as the backbone for home wifi networks than it really matters for the everage smart phone user.
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Ill let 5G sort itself out for a while.
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In the earlier days of LTE i was constantly shutting it off because when the LTE signal was weak, it didnt work for data. Still have to do that sometimes and drop my phone into 4G, which is slower but stronger around fringe areas.
Ill let 5G sort itself out for a while.
Unless you’re an early adopter then there is no reason to buy a new phone just for 5G hype that will only be available mostly in large metropolitan cities. NYC is still building out it’s 5G network but this will continue for the next 2 years. 2020/2021. By 2024-2025 when the tech matures and is more widely adopted, you can buy into 5G hype. For now buy phone if you need one, not due to fact if it has a 5G Chip set or not. Just remember 5G will come at a higher cost don’t think my former employer’s won’t bend you over the barrel in those first few years (AT&T and Verizon).
If the iPhones comes with 5G in 2020, you’ll be better off holding off until 2021 or 2022 to get better battery performance as the first models usually eat batteries like they did when LTE hit.
If the iPhones comes with 5G in 2020, you’ll be better off holding off until 2021 or 2022 to get better battery performance as the first models usually eat batteries like they did when LTE hit.
That is a good point. If 5G was ready for prime time all the galaxy phones would have had it. Samsung is hedging their bets.
Your post said talked about “phones” and used the word “you” — so talking about what other people need. That’s the problem. It doesn’t matter what you do or don’t need. Your personal usage and use cases are not the driving force behind whether 5G is or isn’t relevant, helpful, or needed.
This is a pattern time and time again on here. People think that if a situation is fine for them personally it ought to be fine for everyone.
Oh well, we’re getting used to being late to the party. It took them years to get OLED on their flagship too.
Reuters reports that Intel has confirmed it does not expect its 5G chips to be in consumer products until 2020.
Intel's timeline is tied closely with Apple's product plans due to Apple's reliance on Intel chips for its iPhone modems. Previously a Qualcomm customer, Apple has been at odds with Qualcomm due to an ongoing legal battle between the two companies. In fact, Qualcomm has been reportedly unwilling to sell its chips to Apple because of the conflict.
That has left Apple reliant on Intel for its modem chips in the latest line of iPhones, though Apple has been exploring other vendors, and even working to develop its own chips. That plan, however, isn't expected to produce results until 2021, at least.
Apple waiting until 2020 to deliver 5G iPhones doesn't come as a surprise as previous rumors have said the same. This statement by Intel, however, does seem to confirm some of those previous rumors.
Article Link: Intel's 5G Chips Won't Appear in Mobile Phones Until 2020
But at least the iPhones are 0,01 milliseconds speedier in real life use and twice as expensive
Oh well, we’re getting used to being late to the party. It took them years to get OLED on their flagship too.
But at least the iPhones are 0,01 milliseconds speedier in real life use and twice as expensive
In real life use? https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/9wsrzd/pixel_3_xl_camera_lag/
Huh? There is a setting my FaceTime & iMessages literally lets me choose which line to use for the aforementioned...
Don't confuse them or they might realize that right now (and for quite a while longer) Apple only sells "last year" phones.
Ask yourself if having a television would've been useful in 1925 when there wasn’t anything for the antenna to receive. And yet somehow Apple haters manage to criticize as “inferior” a phone with a radio than can communicate with a 5G network that doesn’t yet exist. I’ll bet today’s “superior” phone will also have 802.11ax WiFi, amiright?
AT&T will call 5G "6Ge" - solved!
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Correct - 5G has a higher maximum bandwidth, but its more about splitting that bandwidth up amongst more people/devices.
We get some benefit of that even on LTE, as others move off LTE and onto the 5G towers. And LTE will keep running long after I upgrade my phone.