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You are probably only 5% of market so why should I have to pay for your 32Gig need go get yourself an HP.

First, an HP won't give me a macOS experience, will it...

But secondly, why are all of my replies from people who don't understand that a 32GB option has no bearing on the battery life (or cost) of the 8 or 16GB configurations that you would get?
 
I'm hyped for i9. More and more of my stuff leverages multiprocessing, and my Mac Pro is only getting older.
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Mac mini still on the 4th Gen Haswell

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Tim Cook: "Guys literally only want one thing and it's ******* disgusting"
> Mac mini that's more powerful than an iPhone
 
The following needs to happen within the next 6 - 12 months:

1. Apple needs to reintroduce the 17-inch MBP with a 4K retina screen, legacy ports, and lpddr4 memory. If doing these things requires making it slightly (0.5 inches) thicker than the current 13/15-inch models to make legacy ports happen, so be it. Gives them an excuse to put a larger battery inside of it. The power-hungry i9 mobile CPU would have something to feed it well. Maybe they could even get up to 64 GB of lpddr4 in there, as well. Touch Bar should become optional for all models.

2. If Coffee Lake iMacs (non-Pro) are on the horizon, I foresee the sales of the lower end iMac Pro's (8-core and 10-core models) getting cannibalized upon, especially if they use the same Vega 56 GPUs as the lower-end Pros. Apple should start working on a 35-inch 8K retina monitor model, and raise the memory limit from 128 GB of rdrimms to 512 GB of lrdimms to get the 8K video editors a machine that fits their needs.
 
I don't care if it 'compromises battery life', I know what I'm getting into. 32GB is not a luxury anymore, it's needed for anyone who does heavy development work on the go.

90% of the time, I'm powered, anyway; the laptop just gives me the freedom to take that power anywhere.
At least the non-improving RAM sizes are preventing the likes of Google from making even less efficient software. GDocs uses 1GiB of RAM now, and Hangouts turns my laptop into a space heater, ffs... The same exact stuff used to run on an iMac G5.
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a 32GB option has no bearing on the battery life (or cost) of the 8 or 16GB configurations that you would get?
It does. 32GB requires them to use a different kind of RAM that uses more power and requires a different motherboard. They won't introduce a different motherboard into their supply and support just for that option that few people will need. Sucks being the minority.
 
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But secondly, why are all of my replies from people who don't understand that a 32GB option has no bearing on the battery life (or cost) of the 8 or 16GB configurations that you would get?
Right now (I don't know about the newly released chips), if apple was to offer 32GB, they'd have to use a different memory selection that would be more power-hungry ram

Source: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...required-battery-compromising-design.2016683/

Schiller: The MacBook Pro uses 16GB of very fast LPDDR memory, up to 2133MHz. To support 32GB of memory would require using DDR memory that is not low power and also require a different design of the logic board which might reduce space for batteries. Both factors would reduce battery life.
 
My company has been always offering us the choice of a MacBookPro or a Dell Precision workstation. Last MBP offered is the 2015 model, and since the Precision station provides the 32GB of ram and faster processors, current MBPs have been deemed in adequate for our needs. Not sure what I will do when my machine (2 years into a 3 year cycle) is ready for replacement.

I am not sure why folks think 32GB is too much to ask, unless you are not using your laptop for work. Pro machine right? supposed to offer everything that is needed for professionals?
 
I am not sure why folks think 32GB is too much to ask, unless you are not using your laptop for work. Pro machine right? supposed to offer everything that is needed for professionals?
I use my machines for work, and yet I don't need 32GB. Everyone is different and to think everyone needs 32GB is a mistake (as much as expecting everyone not needing 32GB).

Yeah, I get that many folks need that much ram, but I also know many folks that don't. I said this earlier, at my organzation where we have literally thousands of desktop/laptops. The standard build for machines are 8GB, which is a far cry from 32. I think last year (or early) it was only 4GB, so the bump up to 8GB is a fairly recent move.
 
Sounds great. One of my macs is nearing the end of its life now and if it's true that Apple intend to drop intel.... for my own sake I'm going to need a top of the line intel Mac before they cease production.
 
The i5 8269 and 8259 are configurable to TDP-down of 20W. That isn't 15W but is also isn't 28W either. It is closer to 15 (5) than it is to 28 ( 8) .

https://ark.intel.com/products/137980/Intel-Core-i5-8269U-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-4_20-GHz
https://ark.intel.com/products/135935/Intel-Core-i5-8259U-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz

The eDRAM is bigger. Just bleeding off clock speed to go lower TDP may or may not be useful to most other system vendors. Intel may not offer anything different for a relatively long while (i.e, until 9th Gen). You can get into slippery slope where the performance from the previous model just pragmatically evaporates.

If the gap is 5W and can get 1-2W back from a reduction in other components ( e.g., PCH , TB, etc. ) then the gap is pretty small to justify a separate processor product SKU.

However Apple surely won't put the same CPUs, only with TDP configured differently, into Touchbar and Fn Keys models. Also IIRC, Apple doesn't really adhere to Intels (configurable) TDPs anyway.

This model looks like what the MacBook Air update could have been. ( Screen is a bit more higher than a MBA would get but along the lines Apple has been going. ). I doubt Apple would pass through some huge discount for 7th gen processors.

Will be interesting to see where Apple goes with this, given there aren't really adequate CPUs for neither a new Fn keys MBP nor some other kind of MBA-successor at this point.
 
All these people talking about a 6 core Mac Mini and I'm over here tickled pink by the thought of it just going back up to 4...
Here's the deal...Apple has several different CPUs available from which to choose. If they keep the existing mini chassis, they could easily use the 15w U-Series (7th or 8th Gen), the 28w U-Series (again, 7th or 8th Gen), the 45w H-Series (and again, 7th or 8th Gen) OR really surprise us with at least one model sporting the 65w G-Series (Core i5-8305G or Core i7-8705/6G) as a BTO item. I think after 4 years of complete stagnation, any of these CPU choices would be welcome by those of us either have a mini and want to upgrade, those who are considering macOS or those who use the mini in a number of different vertical markets.

The unknowns are how much RAM it would ship with as base (should be 8GB), will it support up to 32GB of RAM, how many TB3 ports it will have (two is easy and cheapest) and will it come with the ports that most users would expect as they have them on their current minis (USB 3.0 Type-A, HDMI, Gigabit Ethernet, SDXC, Audio In and Headphone)?

Although the motherboard would be completely new, there's no reason why they couldn't simply use the existing chassis, improve any cooling needs to support a G-Series CPU and get it out the door. After the debacle of the 2014 model, it would be nice to see Apple do what it rarely does anymore, which is surprise us with what we asked (have been asking) for since the 2014 model was released. The 2012 model seems like such a fluke now and it shouldn't. It is quite frustrating to see Apple so consumed with trying to make us believe that the iPad is what we want and need, when that's not at all going to work. Maybe they are listening, but I am not holding my breath.
 
They should significantly raise the price of Mac Mini and brand it like a premium product instead. Apple TV 4K should replace the current Mac Mini. The current Mac Mini is so cheap, there is no profit there. They are better off selling Apple Pencils.
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A 6-core mac mini 32gb of ram.. wouldn't that be something...

I mean, really, just take the components straight out of the MBP put them in a little box and majority of people will be SUPER happy.

That’s called iMac Pro
 
Man, a six core mac mini would be an instant buy...

Impossible because the Mini would then surpass the iMac and in Tim’s line of thinking that’s a mortal sin.
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Here's how the updates should go -

- Mac mini - will either be part of the modular Mac Pro (Base Compute Unit) or stay a standalone and get the Core i5/i7 with the integrated Vega GPUs. These could become their entry level AR/AI developer boxes. My guess: 50/50.

A Mini with anything better than decent graphics is a mortal sin in the infinitely narrow mindset of Tim Cook !
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what is a Mac Mini?
 
Just one question to cover the last 2-3 years of these message boards:

What's so great about the Mac Mini that everyone is always whining about Apple not refreshing it?

Seriously. By the time you add the monitor and peripherals, why not just buy an iMac?

Am I missing something here?
Because when the imac’s lcd craps the bed from heat, you pay 4x more to replace the lcd than what the whole thing is worth. Our not quite 3 yr old imac now has a second monitor in front that I bought on craigslist for $50. To buy just the lcd and replace it ourselves was $550 without any warranty. No more imacs for us.
 
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Not everyone = two people on the planet.

I'm sure there are lots of people on the planet (and even lots of Mac users) who don't need 32GB. I am, however, not one of them. I run up against the 16GB limit every single day. I also think it's disingenuous to refer to a laptop that is as seriously underpowered as the MBP as a "Pro". My fear is that by the time Apple actually comes out with a 32GB laptop, I'll really need 64.
 
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All these people talking about a 6 core Mac Mini and I'm over here tickled pink by the thought of it just going back up to 4...


Haha fair play. I have the 2012 Quad core one but it is funny how badly they gimped it from 2012 to 2014. Don't want to impact those pricey iMacs!
 
I'm sure there are lots of people on the planet (and even lots of Mac users) who don't need 32GB. I am, however, not one of them. I run up against the 16GB limit every single day. I also think it's disingenuous to refer to a laptop that is as seriously underpowered as the MBP as a "Pro". My fear is that by the time Apple actually comes out with a 32GB laptop, I'll really need 64.
if you need more than the high-end 15 inch touchbar MBP, just use a server grade computer to do the legwork.
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And Apple still putting mechanical hard drives into base iMac in 2018...
No one asked you to buy the base model iMac though. Those are for old people who can not distinguish RAM from non-volatile storage. If you care about the difference, just buy the obvious choice, which is the mid-level iMac Pro.
 
But maybe we'll see Raspberry Pi Hackintoshes. (not being serious, I'm sure the hardware would differ too much)

The horror! Although I must admit a NVIDIA Jetson TX2 running OSX would be pretty darn sweet.

Now, onto the wild hopes and dreams...
Personally, I'm hoping that Apple finally come to their senses, realise that although AMD GPUs are good, they aren't good for a large slice of pro work, which requires CUDA.

My 17" 2011 MBP is a little sick, probably with cracked GPU solder disease, and I'm looking for a replacement. A 6-core, hyper-threaded 15" MBP with a GTX M1050 or even M1050ti would be glorious, even if they have to down clock the GPU a little. Need those cores, baby.
 
Me since my iMac died over the weekend. I can get by on a variety of laptops and my iPad for a few months. But not a for a few years.

My ‘11 iMac is suffering from a bad GPU. I fired it up tonight to restore my wife’s new iPad. I was very grateful it worked. I’m hoping I can make it till the newest iMacs come out.
 
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